Re: [uug] New Freshman BYU Tips?

2013-08-06 Thread Stuart Jansen
On Tue, 2013-08-06 at 10:43 -0600, Bryan Murdock wrote: > It sounds like EE and CS are collaborating on more classes now than > when I was there, which is good. There is a lot of overlap, and at > other Universities EE-CS is a combined department. Not sure why they > aren't combined at BYU. Look

Re: [uug] New Freshman BYU Tips?

2013-08-06 Thread Oliver Reed
Okay, I'll check out some of the Computer Engineering courses; they are sounding more and more like what I am interested in. I think I'd like to be introduced to some of the professors. CS 142 is almost like a refresher course from what I've seen is rather basic. I've done my fair share of C progra

Re: [uug] New Freshman BYU Tips?

2013-08-06 Thread Jonathan Kunkee
Here's my nickel: About a year and a half ago I decided that I liked low-level development and wanted to do kernel-y things. I was early enough in the CS program that I switched to Computer Engineering and planned a kernel dev track for myself. (The earlier comments about the breadth of CS/CE are

Re: [uug] New Freshman BYU Tips?

2013-08-06 Thread Matt Gardner
On Tue, Aug 6, 2013 at 9:28 PM, Peter Konrad Konneker wrote: > https://cs.byu.edu/research_computer_science_byu > > also: https://cs.byu.edu/gradrecruiting/ > > That'll give you a good idea of what the labs are and who is doing what > currently. > You might note from poking around those sites a l

Re: [uug] New Freshman BYU Tips?

2013-08-06 Thread Peter Konrad Konneker
https://cs.byu.edu/research_computer_science_byu also: https://cs.byu.edu/gradrecruiting/ That'll give you a good idea of what the labs are and who is doing what currently. -Peter On Tue, Aug 6, 2013 at 7:24 PM, Matt Gardner wrote: > Those aren't my areas, but in practice it won't really mat

Re: [uug] New Freshman BYU Tips?

2013-08-06 Thread Matt Gardner
Those aren't my areas, but in practice it won't really matter for a year or two, anyway, unless you're able to test out of like the first 5 courses in the curriculum. There's not much room for flexibility in the first two years. The main part where your emphasis could make a difference early on,

Re: [uug] New Freshman BYU Tips?

2013-08-06 Thread Oliver Reed
Okay, so I'm back. I'm curious, what classes I should look into if I'm personally interested in Operating System Development/Design, Embedded Systems, and, after experiencing it in my internship, Cyber Security. Of course, I'm just barely starting, so chances are I'll change several times throughou

Re: [uug] New Freshman BYU Tips?

2013-08-06 Thread Oliver Reed
Thank you all for your replies. They've been very informative and interesting to read. I'm glad to know that my Windows VM will be sufficient (hopefully) for the CS classes I am planning on taking, and that I can do something more interesting than beginner's C++, especially the possibility of being

Re: [uug] New Freshman BYU Tips?

2013-08-06 Thread David Hilton
On Tue, Aug 6, 2013 at 10:43 AM, Bryan Murdock wrote: > On Tue, Aug 6, 2013 at 9:45 AM, David Hilton > wrote: > > Looking at the CE map, there are a few CS courses that aren't required > that > > I'd definitely recommend you take if you're interested in software > > development (252, 312, 330, 4

Re: [uug] New Freshman BYU Tips?

2013-08-06 Thread Daniel Butler
Part of it's also in the worldview. The theoretical/academic view of computer science does fit better with CPMS, but the more real world usage fits better with CoE. On Tue, Aug 6, 2013 at 10:51 AM, Lloyd Brown wrote: > Several years ago, around the time the IT program was created, there was > a

Re: [uug] New Freshman BYU Tips?

2013-08-06 Thread Lloyd Brown
Several years ago, around the time the IT program was created, there was a push to create a unified "School of Computing" at BYU, that would have included ECEN (EE and CE), CS, IT, and possibly IS. I've heard rumors (though that's ALL they are; I have no substantiation of them), that one of the co

Re: [uug] New Freshman BYU Tips?

2013-08-06 Thread Bryan Murdock
On Tue, Aug 6, 2013 at 9:45 AM, David Hilton wrote: > Hmm... I'd take Matt's advice into account before Bryan's. Ha! Maybe I just wasn't exposed to as many of the higher-level courses in CS and the research the professors were doing. I know a couple guys that got their CompE bachelors and a CS

Re: [uug] New Freshman BYU Tips?

2013-08-06 Thread Lloyd Brown
Yes. I wasn't clear. I apologize for that. Mostly I was referring to hardware-level system design, and how it affects design and performance of a piece of software. Or how the design and operation of a piece of software has an effect on the system as a whole. For example, at my work we often h

Re: [uug] New Freshman BYU Tips?

2013-08-06 Thread David Hilton
By the way, course requirements for a major can be explored through BYU's MyMap, or by searching for "BYU $MAJOR map". I know the CS map is being significantly reworked this year, but I don't think it's available online yet. I'd generally agree with Lloyd's overview of the different technical deg

Re: [uug] New Freshman BYU Tips?

2013-08-06 Thread Matt Gardner
On Tue, Aug 6, 2013 at 11:39 AM, Lloyd Brown wrote: > - Computer Science - Lots of algorithms and programming, but absolutely > nothing on systems or hardware > > - Electrical Engineering - Lots of electronics and some CS-like work > (eg. real-time OS, etc.) > > - Computer Engineering - A mix bet

Re: [uug] New Freshman BYU Tips?

2013-08-06 Thread David Hilton
Hmm... I'd take Matt's advice into account before Bryan's. It really depends on what you want to do. Enough of the low-level courses are the same, you don't really have to make a decision until later. Looking at the CE map, there are a few CS courses that aren't required that I'd definitely recom

Re: [uug] New Freshman BYU Tips?

2013-08-06 Thread Lloyd Brown
I know these terms mean different things at other institutions, but here's my take on the various computer-related majors at BYU. I only have direct experience with one or two, so some of this is probably oversimplified or biased. - Computer Science - Lots of algorithms and programming, but absol

Re: [uug] New Freshman BYU Tips?

2013-08-06 Thread Bryan Murdock
This is where I probably say some things I shouldn't say. If you are an incoming freshman and already know that you want to focus on computers and are already running linux on your own, don't do CS at BYU. Go directly to Computer Engineering in the EE department. You still take the best classes t

Re: [uug] New Freshman BYU Tips?

2013-08-06 Thread Matt Gardner
One thing you'll find is that the world of computer science is enormously broad. On this thread already you've had advice from those with a business focus, with an operating systems focus, with a programming languages focus, and probably others. I'm on the more high-level, mathy side of computer