On Wed, Jul 28, 2004 at 09:31:03PM -0600, Michael Torrie wrote:
> On Wed, 2004-07-28 at 19:44, Scott Paul Robertson wrote:
> > But how long will it take for SPF to be universally applied? There's an
> > issue to wonder about. (And means I need to work on my mail-server
> > again).
>
> Actually, no
Michael Torrie wrote:
Actually, no. It means you'll have to add an entry to your DNS records.
Unless you still need to turn on SMTP AUTH, like I did. :)
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On Wed, 2004-07-28 at 19:44, Scott Paul Robertson wrote:
> On Wed, Jul 28, 2004 at 04:14:00PM -0600, Steve Meyers wrote:
> > SPF doesn't claim to be the be-all, end-all solution. It only claims to
> > solve one problem (forged domains). Once SPF is universally applied,
> > it's safe to bet the
On Wed, Jul 28, 2004 at 04:14:00PM -0600, Steve Meyers wrote:
> SPF doesn't claim to be the be-all, end-all solution. It only claims to
> solve one problem (forged domains). Once SPF is universally applied,
> it's safe to bet the major ISPs will move on to other problems.
>
But how long will
On Wed, 28 Jul 2004 17:40:34 -0600 (MDT), Mac Newbold
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >Can the hosts file contain aliases without IP addresses?
>
> Depends on the OS. On *nix, I believe so. On windows, probably, but I'm
> not sure.
That was a rhetorical question to which the answer is no. /etc/host
Today at 12:38pm, Andrew Jorgensen said:
>On Wed, 28 Jul 2004 12:18:02 -0600 (MDT), Mac Newbold
><[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> If you want mail.app.byu.edu to resolve to mail.byu.edu, add an entry to
>> your hosts file that says such.
>
>Can the hosts file contain aliases without IP addresses?
De
Andrew Jorgensen wrote:
Eh, who wants to send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] anyway ;-).
Cheers. :)
Seriously, I agree that SPF and friends need to and will happen, but
it would be foolish to suppose that worm authors won't find ways
around it.
SPF doesn't claim to be the be-all, end-all solution. It o
On Wed, 28 Jul 2004 15:32:30 -0600, Steve Meyers <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> The document I mentioned also recommends setting up rate-limiting on a
> per-user basis. That would all but eliminate attempts to bypass SPF by
> using the local MX. Again, I expect that the major ISPs will implement
>
Andrew Jorgensen wrote:
http://corp.aol.com/press/ASTA_Statement_of_Intent.pdf
Huh? This doc is a statement of intent that refers to a first draft of
a best practices doc which suggests changing port numbers for mail
submission so that there will be a clear distinction between MTA and
MSA. In the
On Wed, 28 Jul 2004 14:49:33 -0600, Steve Meyers <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Andrew Jorgensen wrote:
> > On Wed, 28 Jul 2004 14:16:18 -0600, Scott Paul Robertson
> > Sending through a remote SMTP server with authentication happens on
> > the same port as unauthenticated sending mail from one mail
Andrew Jorgensen wrote:
On Wed, 28 Jul 2004 14:16:18 -0600, Scott Paul Robertson
Sending through a remote SMTP server with authentication happens on
the same port as unauthenticated sending mail from one mail server to
another, so they are both blocked.
Not true. It should happen (according to th
On Wed, 28 Jul 2004 14:16:18 -0600, Scott Paul Robertson
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On a side note, the smtp traffic being blocked is that of a mail server
> if I'm not mistaken. (ie, I can't have postfix on my laptop doing it's
> own sending to the outside world, so I relay through the CS dept).
On Tue, Jul 27, 2004 at 09:35:44PM -0600, Andrew Jorgensen wrote:
> The way I deal with this is by sending mail through a server I can
> authenticate with, in my case this is mail.xmission.com. Since BYU is
> blocking outgoing smtp (but not incoming?) I have to do it over SSL,
> but I should be do
On Wed, 28 Jul 2004 12:18:02 -0600 (MDT), Mac Newbold
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> If you want mail.app.byu.edu to resolve to mail.byu.edu, add an entry to
> your hosts file that says such.
Can the hosts file contain aliases without IP addresses?
BYU Unix Users Group
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Today at 11:44am, Brent Thomson said:
>My problem is that I use my laptop on three different networks: home,
>office, and school. I don't need per account settings, I would need per
>network settings (which is pretty much what DNS is supposed to provide).
>It seems to me that 'mail' is a pretty co
Steve Meyers wrote:
> In any case, you should be using a specific mail server
> for each outgoing account you have, with SMTP auth. That
> is the way of the future.
Or, you could forward localhost port 25 over ssh to your
own mailserver and bypass the problem entirely :)
BYU
My problem is that I use my laptop on three different networks: home,
office, and school. I don't need per account settings, I would need per
network settings (which is pretty much what DNS is supposed to provide).
It seems to me that 'mail' is a pretty common name for mail servers
(mail.byu.ed
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Scott K wrote:
| Steve Meyers wrote:
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|> In any case, you should be using a specific mail server
|> for each outgoing account you have, with SMTP auth. That is the way
|> of the future.
|
| But not the way of the present. Well, maybe I'm just lazy, bu
Steve Meyers wrote:
Just put an entry in /etc/hosts for mail.app.byu.edu. :)
And for the record, I see no reason why they should be expected to
ensure that "mail" always works for you. I've never seen an RFC about
it, anyway. In any case, you should be using a specific mail server
for each out
I've always wondered why mail clients can't have an option to look for
the MX record for the domain you're in and, failing that, the parent
domains. It seems like this would almost always work.
The way I deal with this is by sending mail through a server I can
authenticate with, in my case this i
Just put an entry in /etc/hosts for mail.app.byu.edu. :)
And for the record, I see no reason why they should be expected to
ensure that "mail" always works for you. I've never seen an RFC about
it, anyway. In any case, you should be using a specific mail server for
each outgoing account you ha
I don't know who to complain to about this, so y'all get to hear about it.
(If any of you know who I should be pointing my whining at, by all means,
speak up.)
Recently, BYU's wireless network has been changed to only allow your
machine's traffic after you've logged in using an HTML form in you
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