Pasi Juppo a écrit :
> And to put some sarcasm at the end then why don't Klaus remove remote
> control support from VDR. Who wants to use clumsy, usually not 100%
> working, with only few buttons and with batteries that drain out remote
> control when there are oh-so-nice keyboards and mouses avail
On 16.05.2009 22:30, Pasi Juppo wrote:
> Seriously, there are many many things that are purely user error - so
> what! If the SW can eliminate few of those then wouldn't it be advantage
> of the SW?
>
> If VDR can provide assistance to solve "user error" then why not
> implement it and make more u
Seriously, there are many many things that are purely user error - so
what! If the SW can eliminate few of those then wouldn't it be advantage
of the SW?
If VDR can provide assistance to solve "user error" then why not
implement it and make more users happy about VDR? Just because it is
additional
On Sat, May 16, 2009 at 8:57 AM, Patrick Rother wrote:
> As most pause key pressings are accidental, this is quite annoying.
That is user-error, not a problem with VDR.
> I'd prefer to have a switch to disable recording at all.
Although you can easily resolve your problem by simply paying
atten
On Wed, May 13, 2009 at 11:08:56AM +0200, Nicolas Huillard wrote:
> Patrick Rother a écrit :
> > On Fri, May 08, 2009 at 08:30:24PM +0300, Pasi Juppo wrote:
> >> I'd also like to see option where live-tv pause can be enabled/disabled.
> >
> > I second this idea.
> >
> > I have a large recorder ho
Patrick Rother a écrit :
> On Fri, May 08, 2009 at 08:30:24PM +0300, Pasi Juppo wrote:
>> I'd also like to see option where live-tv pause can be enabled/disabled.
>
> I second this idea.
>
> I have a large recorder host, and satellite hosts for watching live
> TV and recordings (via NFS), but I u
Hi all,
I see exactly this too...you can end up with a stack of running live instant
recordings without realising it. I think its an area that needs some
improvement.
On Tue, May 12, 2009 at 9:55 AM, Malcolm Caldwell <
malcolm.caldw...@cdu.edu.au> wrote:
> On Thu, 2009-05-07 at 09:39 +0200, Fran
On Fri, May 08, 2009 at 08:30:24PM +0300, Pasi Juppo wrote:
> I'd also like to see option where live-tv pause can be enabled/disabled.
I second this idea.
I have a large recorder host, and satellite hosts for watching live
TV and recordings (via NFS), but I usually don't want to record
anything a
I agree wholeheartedly with Malcolm Caldwell.
I have also read the manual (last night again to be precise)
and still think the handling of the pause key is far from ideal.
I think Timo's patch would be great.
Nothing changes for those who think the current system is 100% perfect
and two other se
2009/5/12 Theunis Potgieter
> I like this solution
>
> On 11/05/2009, Timo Eskola wrote:
> > Handling of the pause key is an intreresting issue.
> >
> > There was proposal to configure the pause key as down key. This works
> during
> > replay, but hitting the pause during live video changes chan
I like this solution
On 11/05/2009, Timo Eskola wrote:
> Handling of the pause key is an intreresting issue.
>
> There was proposal to configure the pause key as down key. This works during
> replay, but hitting the pause during live video changes channel.
>
> Better solution would be to add setu
On Thu, 2009-05-07 at 09:39 +0200, Frank Scherthan wrote:
> Hi Theunis, Hi list,
I have read the manual. I understand how vdr works.
I don't like finding 4 instant recordings going, using up disk space and
10 old instant recordings that no one actually wanted.
IMHO: it is too easy to 'accidenta
Handling of the pause key is an intreresting issue.
There was proposal to configure the pause key as down key. This works during
replay, but hitting the pause during live video changes channel.
Better solution would be to add setup option for pause key handling. I made
a simple patch for this:
ht
marti...@embl.de wrote:
> Well, keeping the remote control away from my kids is not easy unless I han
> g it
> from the ceiling.
>
> Is there some way I can disable live tv pausing all together?
>
> It is causing a lot of trouble and I don´t reallly need that feature...
I reply direct to the ori
2009/5/12 VDR User
> If you don't want VDR to "record" when pause is pressed, how do you
> expect to resume play from the point at which you pressed pause?
I'm talking about what the users sees, not what VDR does behind the scenes.
> Next, you _do_ have the option to delete these pause/instan
I agree with you 100% - the 'Pause' key should pause Live TV. However I do
agree with others here that the 'Paused recording' should be automatically
'cleaned up' when you go back to Live TV or alternatively when you change
channel.
On Mon, May 11, 2009 at 9:41 AM, Frank Scherthan wrote:
> Torge
If you don't want VDR to "record" when pause is pressed, how do you
expect to resume play from the point at which you pressed pause?
Obviously it has to "record" the stream somewhere since there is no
live tv caching in VDR. Next, you _do_ have the option to delete
these pause/instant recordings,
marti...@embl.de a écrit :
> Now, as for the instant recording, how about it gets deleted when you zap t
> o another channel?
...or when there is no available tuner to continue the older
instant-recording... I think about zapping, when you would like to keep
the "previous channel" instant record
our satellite provider's pvr, has 2 tv out and 2 remotes. If you are
watching a live/paused recording, you have the option to save it or
discard it. I do not know what the size of this buffer is. But it does
give you the option and it does show you are busy with a live buffer,
icon indication is be
On 09/05/2009, Udo Richter wrote:
> On 09.05.2009 12:38, Klaus Schmidinger wrote:
> > - When should such a recording be deleted?
> >If it gets deleted as soon as replay is stopped, you'll be very
> surprised
> >when you (or your kids ;-) inadvertently press Stop, and you can't
> resum
Torgeir Veimo schrieb:
> Just my 5 cent on the topic; Having a pause key that records is really
> non-logical.
You can keep your money ;)
The pause key pauses live TV.
It doesn't record in the background to surprise you!
It has to record, to do playback AND pause, so the key is doing EXACTLY
w
Just my 5 cent on the topic; Having a pause key that records is really
non-logical.
Follow the principle of least surprise; if you want to record live tv, you
press the record button, no the pause button.
If one really wants to record the (temporal) file created by a live tv
pause, one could press
> >
> > The Real Problem is that people are too lazy to educate their brats
> > properly.
>
> For F sake. Do you have kids?
>
> You can educate a 5 year old, but a 2 year old? Have you even tried?
>
> Just to say: I am not lazy, and my kids are not brats, and I don't think
> I or the the othe
On Sat, 2009-05-09 at 16:29 +0300, Lauri Tischler wrote:
> VDR User wrote:
> > On Sat, May 9, 2009 at 4:05 AM, Gerald Dachs wrote:
> >> Am Sat, 09 May 2009 12:38:39 +0200
> >> schrieb Klaus Schmidinger :
> >>> It also raises several questions:
> >>>
> >>> - When should such a recording be deleted?
On Sat, 2009-05-09 at 06:15 -0700, VDR User wrote:
> On Sat, May 9, 2009 at 4:05 AM, Gerald Dachs wrote:
> > Am Sat, 09 May 2009 12:38:39 +0200
> > schrieb Klaus Schmidinger :
> >> It also raises several questions:
> >>
> >> - When should such a recording be deleted?
> >> If it gets deleted as s
On Sun, May 10, 2009 at 1:49 AM, Andrey Kuzmin wrote:
>> If there's any intention to add live tv caching then ram should
>> definitely be available to the user as a storage option. Although I
>> don't really care about the feature, I don't mind if my ram is being
>> used whereas I absolutely don'
> If there's any intention to add live tv caching then ram should
> definitely be available to the user as a storage option. Although I
> don't really care about the feature, I don't mind if my ram is being
> used whereas I absolutely don't want a harddrive constantly running
> for it. Btw, I hav
On Sat, May 9, 2009 at 1:04 PM, Udo Richter wrote:
> On 08.05.2009 01:17, Andrew Herron wrote:
>> I agree it must put extra wear & stress on the hard drive and yes the
>> energy usage must be higher.
>
> I don't think so. Disks don't wear that much by reading and writing.
> Spinning up and down, h
Gerald Dachs schrieb:
> Am Sat, 09 May 2009 12:38:39 +0200
> schrieb Klaus Schmidinger :
>
>> It also raises several questions:
>>
>> - When should such a recording be deleted?
>> If it gets deleted as soon as replay is stopped, you'll be very
>> surprised when you (or your kids ;-) inadverten
On 08.05.2009 01:17, Andrew Herron wrote:
> I agree it must put extra wear & stress on the hard drive and yes the
> energy usage must be higher.
I don't think so. Disks don't wear that much by reading and writing.
Spinning up and down, heating up and cooling down, shaking them, do lots
of seek o
On 09.05.2009 12:38, Klaus Schmidinger wrote:
> - When should such a recording be deleted?
>If it gets deleted as soon as replay is stopped, you'll be very surprised
>when you (or your kids ;-) inadvertently press Stop, and you can't resume
>replay.
>If it gets deleted after a certa
o
ne is
very good...
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schrieb VDR User :
> On Sat, May 9, 2009 at 4:05 AM, Gerald Dachs wrote:
> > Am Sat, 09 May 2009 12:38:39 +0200
> > schrieb Klaus Schmidinger :
> >> It also raises several questions:
> >>
> >> - When should such a recording be deleted?
> >> If it gets deleted a
My view is that it should behave as on other PVR's where if you change
channel then the 'paused live recording' should be deleted. People are used
to this behaviour. Pressing 'Stop' while in the live recording would take
you back to 'Live' viewing. At anytime when you want to keep the current
Live
I totally agree with this too...at least it would be good to have the option
to handle the pause-live-TV "recording" as now or to have them automatically
deleted when you change channel and not have them appear at all in the
'Recordings' menu. This would me a big improvement in WAF :-)
On Sat, May
VDR User wrote:
> On Sat, May 9, 2009 at 4:05 AM, Gerald Dachs wrote:
>> Am Sat, 09 May 2009 12:38:39 +0200
>> schrieb Klaus Schmidinger :
>>> It also raises several questions:
>>>
>>> - When should such a recording be deleted?
>>> If it gets deleted as soon as replay is stopped, you'll be very
On Sat, May 9, 2009 at 4:05 AM, Gerald Dachs wrote:
> Am Sat, 09 May 2009 12:38:39 +0200
> schrieb Klaus Schmidinger :
>> It also raises several questions:
>>
>> - When should such a recording be deleted?
>> If it gets deleted as soon as replay is stopped, you'll be very
>> surprised when you (o
On Sat, May 9, 2009 at 3:30 AM, Gerald Dachs wrote:
> Am Sat, 09 May 2009 10:33:58 +0300
> schrieb Jouni Karvo :
>
>> No, I meant deleting automatically the pause-live-TV "recording".
>> That recording is conceptually just a technical implementation issue
>> (and should not be visible in the recor
Am Sat, 09 May 2009 12:38:39 +0200
schrieb Klaus Schmidinger :
> It also raises several questions:
>
> - When should such a recording be deleted?
> If it gets deleted as soon as replay is stopped, you'll be very
> surprised when you (or your kids ;-) inadvertently press Stop, and
> you can't res
On 05/09/09 12:30, Gerald Dachs wrote:
> Am Sat, 09 May 2009 10:33:58 +0300
> schrieb Jouni Karvo :
>
>> No, I meant deleting automatically the pause-live-TV "recording".
>> That recording is conceptually just a technical implementation issue
>> (and should not be visible in the recordings list, e
Am Sat, 09 May 2009 10:33:58 +0300
schrieb Jouni Karvo :
> No, I meant deleting automatically the pause-live-TV "recording".
> That recording is conceptually just a technical implementation issue
> (and should not be visible in the recordings list, even, in my
> opinion). The end user needs not c
VDR User kirjoitti:
> On Thu, May 7, 2009 at 11:38 AM, Jouni Karvo wrote:
>
>> I'd be pleased, if there would be some kind of a caretaking, so that the
>> "pause-live-tv" recording would just disappear after returning to other
>> modes of operation. I think it would not break anything for the
On Fri, 8 May 2009, Pasi Juppo wrote:
> It seriously would not hurt VDR if there were Help pages available via
> OSD. Yes, there are man-pages but my guess is that very very few end
> users will actually go to terminal to check man-pages if they have some
> problems with VDR how to do something. T
VDR User wrote:
> On Fri, May 8, 2009 at 10:30 AM, Pasi Juppo wrote:
>
>> VDR is very nice. I've been using it for years now. But it is still very
>> much tech focused in many areas. E.g. cutting recordings is way too
>> complicated for non-tech persons.
>>
>
> Could you elaborate on this?
On Fri, May 8, 2009 at 10:30 AM, Pasi Juppo wrote:
> VDR is very nice. I've been using it for years now. But it is still very
> much tech focused in many areas. E.g. cutting recordings is way too
> complicated for non-tech persons.
Could you elaborate on this? The editing in VDR is very simplist
ACK.
VDR is very nice. I've been using it for years now. But it is still very
much tech focused in many areas. E.g. cutting recordings is way too
complicated for non-tech persons.
I'd also like to see option where live-tv pause can be enabled/disabled.
It has seldom been a problem but the whole f
VDR User a écrit :
> 512MB won't get you far with hdtv. It won't even get you 5 minutes
> worth. Needless to say, you'd need at least a few GB of dedicated ram
> to even bother with it. At least ram is cheap now as you've pointed
> out (especially if you take advantage of MIR's). After seeing h
The relook400s for example has an option (it can be turned on or off)
where a 30 minutes buffer of live tv is recorded to allow to rewind livetv.
This recording is automatically deleted when you zap to another channel, hence
the Wife Acceptance Factor is very high.
Whenever my wife sees in vdr 'c
On Thu, May 7, 2009 at 5:00 PM, Torgeir Veimo wrote:
> 2009/5/8 Andrew Herron
>>
>> This is a very popular feature in the Sky+ & SkyHD PVR's from Sky here in
>> the UK as it enables them to offer the ability to rewind 'Live TV' in an
>> ad-hoc way (at least to the point where you switched over t
VDR User wrote:
> On Thu, May 7, 2009 at 11:38 AM, Jouni Karvo wrote:
>> I'd be pleased, if there would be some kind of a caretaking, so that the
>> "pause-live-tv" recording would just disappear after returning to other
>> modes of operation. I think it would not break anything for the user,
>>
2009/5/8 Andrew Herron
> This is a very popular feature in the Sky+ & SkyHD PVR's from Sky here in
> the UK as it enables them to offer the ability to rewind 'Live TV' in an
> ad-hoc way (at least to the point where you switched over to the currently
> viewed channel)
> I agree it must put extra
This is a very popular feature in the Sky+ & SkyHD PVR's from Sky here in
the UK as it enables them to offer the ability to rewind 'Live TV' in an
ad-hoc way (at least to the point where you switched over to the currently
viewed channel)
I agree it must put extra wear & stress on the hard drive an
On Thu, May 7, 2009 at 11:38 AM, Jouni Karvo wrote:
> I'd be pleased, if there would be some kind of a caretaking, so that the
> "pause-live-tv" recording would just disappear after returning to other
> modes of operation. I think it would not break anything for the user,
> since you can always u
Jouni Karvo wrote:
> I'd be pleased, if there would be some kind of a caretaking, so that the
> "pause-live-tv" recording would just disappear after returning to other
> modes of operation. I think it would not break anything for the user,
> since you can always use the specific recording button i
Frank Scherthan kirjoitti:
> Hi there :)
>
> marti...@embl.de schrieb:
>
>> Well, keeping the remote control away from my kids is not easy unless I han
>> g it
>> from the ceiling.
>>
>> Is there some way I can disable live tv pausing all together?
>>
>> It is causing a lot of trouble and I don´
VDR User schrieb:
> On Thu, May 7, 2009 at 2:03 AM, Theunis Potgieter
> wrote:
>
>> I will be getting flack for this. But neither my wife and I bother to
>> check the pc after vdr works... So perhaps I need to investigate in a
>> plugin that displays the help. Since this is the entry point to V
On Thu, May 7, 2009 at 2:03 AM, Theunis Potgieter
wrote:
> I will be getting flack for this. But neither my wife and I bother to
> check the pc after vdr works... So perhaps I need to investigate in a
> plugin that displays the help. Since this is the entry point to VDR
> for ordinary tv viewers.
I know I should RTFM. Since, vdr appears as a settopbox, it sometimes
makes you lazy into thinking you would get the help from the screen
and not think in Linux/Unix/PC way of checking a man page. Yes I know
I will be getting flack for this. But neither my wife and I bother to
check the pc after vd
On Donnerstag, 7. Mai 2009, Frank Scherthan wrote:
> Hi Theunis, Hi list,
>
> Theunis Potgieter schrieb:
> > Well honestly I'm confused. I use vdr 1.6 and when I press down or up
> > it changes channel only. My vdr never pauses live tv. Mind you I don't
> > have a pause key either and neither defin
Hi Theunis, Hi list,
Theunis Potgieter schrieb:
> Well honestly I'm confused. I use vdr 1.6 and when I press down or up
> it changes channel only. My vdr never pauses live tv. Mind you I don't
> have a pause key either and neither defined. So perhaps this is the
> way to for him.
Why didn't you j
Well honestly I'm confused. I use vdr 1.6 and when I press down or up
it changes channel only. My vdr never pauses live tv. Mind you I don't
have a pause key either and neither defined. So perhaps this is the
way to for him.
On 5/6/09, Frank Scherthan wrote:
> Hi there :)
>
> marti...@embl.de sch
Hi there :)
marti...@embl.de schrieb:
> Well, keeping the remote control away from my kids is not easy unless I han
> g it
> from the ceiling.
>
> Is there some way I can disable live tv pausing all together?
>
> It is causing a lot of trouble and I don´t reallly need that feature...
I really d
On Wed, May 6, 2009 at 10:32 AM, Brian wrote:
> Isn't "pause live TV" an "instant recording". My VDR has some plugins,
> no patches, and has IMHO always done that.
Yes, pausing live tv was added over 6 years ago in VDR-1.1.28 actually.
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As far as I understand, vdr doesn't do pa
As far as I understand, vdr doesn't do pause live tv natively? I would
just go in the menu and disable the pause live tv option. I'm sure
that your vdr was probably patched to include this feature.
On 05/05/2009, marti...@embl.de wrote:
> removing the pause key from remote.conf is not a proper so
On Tue, May 5, 2009 at 2:18 AM, wrote:
> Well, keeping the remote control away from my kids is not easy unless I han
> g it
> from the ceiling.
>
> Is there some way I can disable live tv pausing all together?
>
> It is causing a lot of trouble and I don´t reallly need that feature...
If you're
removing the pause key from remote.conf is not a proper solution as when
watching a recording I like to pause it sometimes.
In truth is not only my kids that press the pause key but my wife or myself
when
using mplayer to watch an .avi file.
Yes I could map the vdr pause key somewhere else as a wo
> -Ursprungligt meddelande-
> Från: vdr-boun...@linuxtv.org [mailto:vdr-boun...@linuxtv.org] För Halim
> Sahin
> Skickat: den 5 maj 2009 13:52
> Till: vdr@linuxtv.org
> Ämne: Re: [vdr] Can I disable pause live tv altogher?
>
> hi,
>
> What's the differe
hi,
What's the difference?
your approach needs patching vdr.
Remooving the pause key from remote.conf does the same.
HTH.
Halim
On Di, Mai 05, 2009 at 12:13:33 +0200, Magnus Hörlin wrote:
> > -Ursprungligt meddelande-
> > Från: vdr-boun...@linuxtv.org [mailto:vdr-boun...@linuxtv.org] För
Magnus Hörlin wrote:
>> -Ursprungligt meddelande-
>> Från: vdr-boun...@linuxtv.org [mailto:vdr-boun...@linuxtv.org] För
>> marti...@embl.de
>> Skickat: den 5 maj 2009 11:19
>> Till: vdr@linuxtv.org
>> Ämne: [vdr] Can I disable pause live tv altogher?
>>
>> Well, keeping the remote control a
hi,
During playback you can pause it with down key.
timeshift can be select in meinmenu.
so He can simply disable the pause key.
Regards
Halim
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> marti...@embl.de
> Skickat: den 5 maj 2009 11:19
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> Ämne: [vdr] Can I disable pause live tv altogher?
>
> Well, keeping the remote control away from my kids is not easy
> -Ursprungligt meddelande-
> Från: vdr-boun...@linuxtv.org [mailto:vdr-boun...@linuxtv.org] För Halim
> Sahin
> Skickat: den 5 maj 2009 11:57
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>
> hi,
> Remove the pause key from
hi,
Remove the pause key from your remote.conf
Regards
Halim
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marti...@embl.de wrote:
> Well, keeping the remote control away from my kids is not easy unless I han
> g it
> from the ceiling.
>
> Is there some way I can disable live tv pausing all together?
>
> It is causing a lot of trouble and I don´t reallly need that feature...
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