[videoblogging] Re: HV20+Compressor+m4v = frame stuttering and a 24p rant

2008-07-22 Thread Bill Cammack
--- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, "Brook Hinton" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > What they're thinking is they want you to buy an XHA1. lol, Absolutely. Spot-On. THAT'S the bottom line. :) > The HV20 is one of those classic "oops, we made a strictly non-pro > item a little too good" events (

Re: [videoblogging] Re: HV20+Compressor+m4v = frame stuttering and a 24p rant

2008-07-22 Thread Rupert
Wow - thanks, Brook. Clear and comprehensive. On 22-Jul-08, at 11:07 AM, Brook Hinton wrote: What they're thinking is they want you to buy an XHA1. The HV20 is one of those classic "oops, we made a strictly non-pro item a little too good" events (kind of like DV). It was never intended to becom

Re: [videoblogging] Re: HV20+Compressor+m4v = frame stuttering and a 24p rant

2008-07-22 Thread Brook Hinton
What they're thinking is they want you to buy an XHA1. The HV20 is one of those classic "oops, we made a strictly non-pro item a little too good" events (kind of like DV). It was never intended to become the low-cost hdv equivalent to a bolex for low-end pros or even a b-roll camera. But its imag

Re: [videoblogging] Re: HV20+Compressor+m4v = frame stuttering

2008-07-22 Thread Rupert
ahhh. bummer. what are they thinking, making 24P so much hard work for North American users? On 22-Jul-08, at 10:21 AM, Bill Cammack wrote: You're absolutely right, Rupert... However, in Eric's situation, he bought the HV20 to be a b-roll camera for his Canon XHA1. The reason he has to sho

[videoblogging] Re: HV20+Compressor+m4v = frame stuttering

2008-07-22 Thread Bill Cammack
You're absolutely right, Rupert... However, in Eric's situation, he bought the HV20 to be a b-roll camera for his Canon XHA1. The reason he has to shoot 24p with the HV20 is to match the footage from the XHA1. Otherwise, he'd be able to skip 24p and shoot 60i and not have to deal with any extra c

Re: [videoblogging] Re: HV20+Compressor+m4v = frame stuttering

2008-07-22 Thread Rupert
1) I've only used a PAL HV20, but even with the US version, you don't *have* to shoot in Progressive, do you? It's just an option, isn't it? (And one that Canon has failed to implement properly - with no pulldown flags) So surely you can just shoot in the normal 60i mode without all this

[videoblogging] Re: HV20+Compressor+m4v = frame stuttering

2008-07-22 Thread Bill Cammack
Yeah man. It's a drag, but considering that you can buy at least *FOUR* HV20s for the price of one XHA1, it's clearly the way to go for the budget-conscious that are willing to deal with the extra hassle. Bill Cammack http://billcammack.com --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, "Eric Rochow" <[E

[videoblogging] Re: HV20+Compressor+m4v = frame stuttering

2008-07-22 Thread Eric Rochow
hey thanks for all the info. what a pain. i'll stick with my XHA1 my Canon HV20, 2 months old, is now for sale. thx, eric.

[videoblogging] Re: HV20+Compressor+m4v = frame stuttering

2008-07-21 Thread Bill Cammack
hahaha Thanks, Brook. I was like ??? :D Bill --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, "Brook Hinton" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > oops just saw that Bill gave you the scoop on the compressor method, > didn't mean to repeat! > > On Mon, Jul 21, 2008 at 4:55 PM, Brook Hinton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wr

Re: [videoblogging] Re: HV20+Compressor+m4v = frame stuttering

2008-07-21 Thread Brook Hinton
oops just saw that Bill gave you the scoop on the compressor method, didn't mean to repeat! On Mon, Jul 21, 2008 at 4:55 PM, Brook Hinton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Actually if you have the canvas at 100% it does show you both fields. > > If you have FCP Studio 2 you don't have to use Cinematool

Re: [videoblogging] Re: HV20+Compressor+m4v = frame stuttering

2008-07-21 Thread Brook Hinton
Actually if you have the canvas at 100% it does show you both fields. If you have FCP Studio 2 you don't have to use Cinematools to do the reverse pulldown - compressor's reverse telecine can do it more or less automagically (there's a how to on Apple's FCP site specific to the HV20. If you're on

Re: [videoblogging] Re: HV20+Compressor+m4v = frame stuttering

2008-07-21 Thread Irina
wow you guys are amazing On Mon, Jul 21, 2008 at 4:02 PM, Bill Cammack <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Like Verdi said, you can't use 24p footage directly from the HV20 in > Final Cut. Here's an AppleTV version of a 24p video from an HV20: > > < > http://blip.tv/file/get/Blipon-BlipOnBlip27Revisio

[videoblogging] Re: HV20+Compressor+m4v = frame stuttering

2008-07-21 Thread Bill Cammack
Like Verdi said, you can't use 24p footage directly from the HV20 in Final Cut. Here's an AppleTV version of a 24p video from an HV20: or The problem is that Final Cut Pro doesn'