I like your old guide, it may not need all that much of an update,
need to hear from more creators on this, theres a hardcore who like to
talk about these rights issues in depth, but many more who are angry
enough to join in once a violation has occured, but for a multitude of
valid reasons dont ge
Ahh theres a big problem with number 4. It defeats a large chunks of
the rights you are giving with any of the creative commons licenses.
To the best of my knowledge the CC licences give people the right to
"copy, distribute, display, and perform your work " providing they
stick to the other rules
Following on from that point, heres some exceptionally clear stuff
from the creative commons site:
http://creativecommons.org/about/licenses/fullrights
"All Creative Commons licenses have many important features in common.
Every license will help you
* retain your copyright
* announce t
Very much so. I remember us discussing this a long time ago, I fear
little has changed in the interim!
creative commons do have this tool in their lab that may help:
http://labs.creativecommons.org/metadata/
But that will only help on the original blog/host, need the
attribution stuff to be a pa
I predict you'll get a mixed response to that notion. And what happens
if its not a text ad? Fireant directory has text and non-text ads on
their site now, but only Michael Verdi commented on it in the past.
I know the whole 'what is commercial' is another sticking point, Im a
bit of a hardliner,
Well I totally agree about not being able to use a cc licence and then
add extra restrictions (cant do that, its invalid), I find your tone a
bit off. The point is its easy to declare the attribution method using
text, but it would be a lot nicer if that was integrated with creative
commons technol
Yes you are right, I guess I would ponder under what conditions a
company would do something that is not 'directed towards commercial
advantage'?
Ahh its like 2005 all over again, Im loving it, think I should retrain
as a lawyer ugh.
Steve Elbows
--- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, "Andreas Ha
True. But then again maybe Id disagree, the cc license does suggest
that you should explicitly state the manner of attribution required,
and just because those elements may be present in the RSS feed that
isnt the same as declaring them to be a strict requirement of your cc
license?
Steve Elbows
--- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Steve Garfield <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> Creative Commons needs to make is easy for content creators to let
> people know how that would like attribution.
>
> My cc license says:
>
> # Attribution. You must attribute the work in the manner specified
Well technically there very much is an automatic form of copyright, at
least in many countries.
So ideally the starting point should be that everyone knows, and
should assume, that they have very limited rights to your work, unless
they see a creative commons license that gives them extra rights.
--- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, "Steve Watkins" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> So ideally the starting point should be that everyone knows, and
> should assume, that they have very limited rights to your work, unless
> they see a creative commons license that gives them extra rights.
>
> Ch
My meta-input starting on this is that while details matters allowing
and managing error is important. The internet started partially
because Tim Berns Lee allowed dead links while Ted Nelson continued on
making things perfect in Xanadu. Opportunity can be lost in seeking
perfection -- and good e
This is a great discussion and I'm pleased it's occurring as a result
of the MyHeavy.com incident. As with many ethical questions that
involve both legal and social criteria, one can use the `reasonable
person' concept to assess the situation. For example, it's clearly
wrong (and illegal) for
I dont think they really want to create licenses that are for a
specific type of media/work, unless for some reason there are a unique
set of requirements of videobloggers that dont apply to others such as
podcasters, musicians etc. I dont think thats the case.
Clarification in some areas is neede
Creative Commons needs to make is easy for content creators to let
people know how that would like attribution.
My cc license says:
# Attribution. You must attribute the work in the manner specified
by the author or licensor.
http://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-nc-sa/2.5/
There isn't a
Den 04.01.2007 kl. 23:50 skrev Steve Garfield <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> http://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-nc-sa/2.5/
>
> There isn't any way for me to spcify how I want attribution within
> the CC license structure so I write it out on my blog.
Did you choose to license your videos under the CC
Den 05.01.2007 kl. 00:09 skrev Steve Watkins <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> I know the whole 'what is commercial' is another sticking point, Im a
> bit of a hardliner, if they are a company then they need to ask
> permission and not assume the CC license can apply to them at all.
The license applies to e
I'm am being concise because this topic comes up again and again and it's
becoming more obvious that a large group of people are licensing their
videos under CC without reading the actual license.
There needs not be any additions to the CC namespace in RSS.
Technologically the attribution re
I think the creative commons licenses actually do a really good job of
outlining vloggers rights and what we expect.
Maybe we should concentrate on where they fail to reflect what we
expect and then maybe see about getting them updated or possibly
proposing a creative commons videoblogger's licens
you almost need a 'taste' attribute with an opt-in override (user based in
addition to site) in the rss feed that the user/creator can fillin when they
post their work &/or as a sitewide option (so if u added another optin u
wouldn't need to go back an update all the existing postings)
licence= +no
have an opt-out also for users to opt out of whole sites eg heavy
opt-out="heavy.com"
On 1/6/07, Kath O'Donnell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> you almost need a 'taste' attribute with an opt-in override (user based in
> addition to site) in the rss feed that the user/creator can fillin when they
ahh. namespaces. for extending rss spec.
is that an option - for blip or the videoblogging community to define it's
own namespaces then work with other aggregators so they support them also?
http://www.rssboard.org/rss-specification#extendingRss
http://www.disobey.com/detergent/2002/extendingrss2/
ideoblogging@yahoogroups.com
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Kath O'Donnell
> Sent: Friday, January 05, 2007 8:54 PM
> To: videoblogging@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: Re: [videoblogging] Re: MyHeavy.com, a call for
> discussion on proper re-vlogging ettiquette
>
> ahh. n
No, existing standard cover this space sufficiently. There is no need for
creating a new standard. The problem is not a lack of a standard but lack
of support (intentional or not) for existing standards in services (and
lack of use of existing standards by creators).
- Andreas
Den 06.01.200
Remember not all things can be defined technically nor should they be.
That's why they call it best practices... and that's why digital rights
management is such a crime against humanity.
You fundamentally can't really define fair use. Certainly creative commons
has come a little closer to it...
thanks, I just found the mediarss info also and can see the rating and
restrictions already in place, so I should have researched prior to emailing
off the top of my head. I noticed you're listed on the working group
contributors for the spec Andreas. is the group working on having other
sites/aggr
I just posted my latest rant on this subject to my blog.
http://mmeiser.com/blog/2007/01/open-rant-to-myheavy-and-vlogging.html
Don't worry, there's a nice little summary at the begining, but I really
hope you'll read it all.
It is perhaps the most important thing I've written in a while.
-Mike
The "working group" is an open mailing list so anyone can join. My name is
on that page because I was a vocal commenter when the spec was being
developed, that's the extent of my involvement. I don't know what kind of
evangelizing Yahoo or anyone else is doing for Media RSS.
- Andreas
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