Re: [Videolib] Permissible amounts in fair use / LexisNexis search for cite(17 uscs sec.107)

2012-05-16 Thread Cathy Michael
Hi, all. I meant to demo this search in the Media Resource Discussion Group virtual meeting in January but you can get the House Report 94-1476easily through LexisNexis Academic search if you subscribe. It is not binding law but it is a directive that tries to quantify. Here is my screencast:

Re: [Videolib] Permissible amounts in fair use

2012-05-16 Thread Brown, Roger
-To: videolib@lists.berkeley.edumailto:videolib@lists.berkeley.edu Date: Tuesday, May 15, 2012 12:42 PM To: videolib@lists.berkeley.edumailto:videolib@lists.berkeley.edu videolib@lists.berkeley.edumailto:videolib@lists.berkeley.edu Subject: Re: [Videolib] Permissible amounts in fair use I once took

Re: [Videolib] Permissible amounts in fair use

2012-05-16 Thread Dennis Doros
, CA 90095-1517 office: 310-206-1248 fax: 310-206-5392 rbr...@oid.ucla.edu From: Shoaf,Judith P jsh...@ufl.edu Reply-To: videolib@lists.berkeley.edu Date: Tuesday, May 15, 2012 12:42 PM To: videolib@lists.berkeley.edu videolib@lists.berkeley.edu Subject: Re: [Videolib] Permissible amounts

Re: [Videolib] Permissible amounts in fair use

2012-05-16 Thread Shoaf,Judith P
Factor 4 a breeze for libraries. Judy From: videolib-boun...@lists.berkeley.edu [mailto:videolib-boun...@lists.berkeley.edu] On Behalf Of Dennis Doros Sent: Wednesday, May 16, 2012 12:30 PM To: videolib@lists.berkeley.edu Subject: Re: [Videolib] Permissible amounts in fair use Roger, I would

Re: [Videolib] Permissible amounts in fair use

2012-05-16 Thread Jessica Rosner
...@lists.berkeley.edu [mailto: videolib-boun...@lists.berkeley.edu] *On Behalf Of *Dennis Doros *Sent:* Wednesday, May 16, 2012 12:30 PM *To:* videolib@lists.berkeley.edu *Subject:* Re: [Videolib] Permissible amounts in fair use ** ** Roger, ** ** I would still say based on Judith's assessment

[Videolib] Permissible amounts in fair use

2012-05-15 Thread Deg Farrelly
Jessica This is patently NOT TRUE. US copyright law identifies amount as one of the four factors in determining whether a use is fair use, but it has NEVER specified that only the smallest possible amount is permissible. deg deg farrelly ASU Libraries Arizona State University P.O. Box

Re: [Videolib] Permissible amounts in fair use

2012-05-15 Thread ghandman
yeah! Remember that the CCUMC/CONFU Fair Use Guidelines for Educational Multimedia years back attempted to quantify. ALA and other participants in the drafting process pretty much refused to sign on because of these attempts and I think it's a good stand to to stand by. Quantifying fair use is

Re: [Videolib] Permissible amounts in fair use

2012-05-15 Thread Shoaf,Judith P
It's worth noting that Judge Evans actually emphasized that it is legitimate to excerpt an entire chapter (even a chapter written by a different author from the rest of the book) in order to provide students with a context for the material to be discussed. That is, she justified including MORE

Re: [Videolib] Permissible amounts in fair use

2012-05-15 Thread Jessica Rosner
Well we now have a 10% ruling from a Federal Court but since the material in question was non fiction it would almost surely be less for works of fiction. There is about 100 years of case law which gives fiction work significantly more protection (and non fiction less). HOWEVER there is also

Re: [Videolib] Permissible amounts in fair use

2012-05-15 Thread Jessica Rosner
Sheesh Judith OF COURSE THERE IS NOTHING ON media but guess what Copyright law is Copyright law and fair use is fair use . As for the Face to Face do ot get that at all. Please explain how a low which in EXPLICIT detail says the use MUST be in a PHYSICAL classroom with an instructor present can

Re: [Videolib] Permissible amounts in fair use

2012-05-15 Thread Randal Baier
...@library.berkeley.edu To: videolib@lists.berkeley.edu Sent: Tuesday, May 15, 2012 2:31:49 PM Subject: Re: [Videolib] Permissible amounts in fair use yeah! Remember that the CCUMC/CONFU Fair Use Guidelines for Educational Multimedia years back attempted to quantify. ALA and other participants

Re: [Videolib] Permissible amounts in fair use

2012-05-15 Thread Shoaf,Judith P
Silly me. Judy From: videolib-boun...@lists.berkeley.edu [mailto:videolib-boun...@lists.berkeley.edu] On Behalf Of Jessica Rosner Sent: Tuesday, May 15, 2012 3:08 PM To: videolib@lists.berkeley.edu Subject: Re: [Videolib] Permissible amounts in fair use Sheesh Judith OF COURSE THERE IS NOTHING

Re: [Videolib] Permissible amounts in fair use

2012-05-15 Thread Jessica Rosner
this little wondering!). Randal Baier -- *From: *ghand...@library.berkeley.edu *To: *videolib@lists.berkeley.edu *Sent: *Tuesday, May 15, 2012 2:31:49 PM *Subject: *Re: [Videolib] Permissible amounts in fair use yeah! Remember that the CCUMC/CONFU Fair Use

Re: [Videolib] Permissible amounts in fair use

2012-05-15 Thread Shoaf,Judith P
I once took that personality test online and it said I am most like Lucy in Peanuts. My husband, who is most like Schroeder, doesn’t let me forget it. Nickels welcome. Judge Evans talks about the Kinko’s and Michigan Documents cases, and disagrees about the “good parts” argument. In only one

Re: [Videolib] Permissible amounts in fair use

2012-05-15 Thread Randal Baier
15, 2012 3:11:12 PM Subject: Re: [Videolib] Permissible amounts in fair use Good points -- I see another healthy debate on the horizon. Hold football for Lucy, hope for the best, rinse, repeat. If I'm not mistaken it was the Kinko's case here in Ann Arbor, where some of these specific

Re: [Videolib] Permissible amounts in fair use

2012-05-15 Thread Jessica Rosner
So I ask again even under your view how can an ENTIRE work of any length pass a fair use test? This case apparently involved a large number of smaller excepts and I don't really care if it was only a few out of 74 that were upheld the point is the LONGER ones were found in violation so it is not

[Videolib] Permissible amounts in fair use

2012-05-15 Thread ghandman
I just realized how relieved I am not to have to jump feet first into this particular fray. From now on, it's gonna be (to quote Stephen Dedalus) Silence, exile, and cunning... gary Gary Handman Director Media Resources Center Moffitt Library UC Berkeley 510-643-8566