Can someone explain to me the difference in the effect on the copyright holder
between having an instructor show a film in class and time shifting the viewing
of that film outside of class through streaming technology to the same
students? Mb
As an educator, I am on the side of the streaming v
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> 1. Re: Streaming within a password protected course management
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Hannah, isn't this exactly the reason why copyright laws need to be
preserved to prevent such misuse of technology? As I've mentioned in earlier
emails, illegal bitload torrents are destroying the art film industry.
Yes, of course, we're seemingly on different sides. Librarians want to
protect
s. The class, however, is not a
>> distance
>> education class but a face-to-face ?regular? college course, and we
do
>> have
>> legally acquired hard copies of the titles on reserve for viewing in
the
>> library.
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>> Pat McGee
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I thank Gary for his common sense and I do agree with him.
My view is that having a one-sided conversation where on that side
everything is permitted (and uses photocopies and papers to justify the
entire use of a film -- while ignoring the transferring of copy-protected
formats and other legal ju
t that some
>> >> distributors of educational documentaries are offering streaming
>> rights
>> >> and
>> >> streaming versions points towards an interpretation that these
>> materials
>> >> are
>> >> for sale and cannot be turned
that these materials
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> >> for sale and cannot be turned into an electronic reserve.
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> >> Am I right about this?
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> >> Judy
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I right about this?
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>> Judy
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>> *From:* videolib-boun...@lists.berkeley.edu [mailto:
>> videolib-boun...@lists.berkeley.edu] *On Behalf Of *Pat Mcgee
>> *Sent:* Friday, November 12, 2010 1:40 PM
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gt; Am I right about this?
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> Judy
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> *From:* videolib-boun...@lists.berkeley.edu [mailto:
> videolib-boun...@lists.berkeley.edu] *On Behalf Of *Pat Mcgee
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Subject: Re: [Videolib] Streaming within a password protected course management
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Hi all,
Let me clarify-the films streamed are documentaries produced for educational
use-not feature films. The class, however, is not a distance education class
but a face-to-face &#x
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> Gary, to be fair, I did bring UCLA up in my first email and suggested
&g
OOPS make that streamed not steamed. I guess I am the one who is steamed.
On Fri, Nov 12, 2010 at 1:55 PM, Jessica Rosner wrote:
> Any claim UCLA made regarding a special need or right to stream
> "foreign-language" films is a red herring. They steamed a wide variety of
> films, including many st
Any claim UCLA made regarding a special need or right to stream
"foreign-language" films is a red herring. They steamed a wide variety of
films, including many standard Hollywood English language films. Worth
noting that the film that they were "caught" on was a BBC Shakespeare play
which was absol
Dennis said:
And my feelings when UCLA includes in this release, "foreign-language films for
linguistic and foreign-language courses" as permissible is something I object
to in several different ways. 3) They're implying that only foreign
language films have a role in education and/or that
nnis Doros
Sent: Friday, November 12, 2010 11:11 AM
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Subject: Re: [Videolib] Streaming within a password protected course
management system
Gary, to be fair, I did bring UCLA up in my first email and suggested
this is all up in the air. And also to be fair, Pat wou
I'm with you on all counts, Dennis
I am informally enjoined (more like a friendly request) by UC counsel from
offering too many opinions in this matter, but I'm with you.
gary
> Gary, to be fair, I did bring UCLA up in my first email and suggested this
> is all up in the air. And also to be fa
f Of *Jessica Rosner
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> *Subject:* Re: [Videolib] Streaming within a password protected course
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> It is also very important to note that the TEACH act does NOT cover
>
Gary, to be fair, I did bring UCLA up in my first email and suggested this
is all up in the air. And also to be fair, Pat would have to further
elaborate on the films being streamed and how they're being used. By her use
of the term "movies," I'm assuming full-length entertainment features, but I
m
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Subject: Re: [Videolib] Streaming within a password protected course management
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It is also very important to note that the TEACH act does NOT cover "dramatic"
works so no fiction films would ever be covered under the TEACH act.
On Thu, Nov 11, 2010 at
Ding ding ding ding
"why this should not happen" is currently being hotly contested: see the
UCLA case:
http://newsroom.ucla.edu/portal/ucla/campus-to-re-start-streaming-of-154601.aspx
gary handman
> Hi all,
>
> I hate to raise this issue again, but apparently the computer geeks on
> campus are
[mtw...@udel.edu]
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> *Subject:* Re: [Videolib] Streaming within a password protected course
> management system
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> Are they in violation of TEACH? Seems like this could be legit, if it's
> for di
Matwichuk [mtw...@udel.edu]
Sent: Thursday, November 11, 2010 5:23 PM
To: videolib@lists.berkeley.edu
Subject: Re: [Videolib] Streaming within a password protected course management
system
Are they in violation of TEACH? Seems like this could be legit, if it's for
distance ed and other provision
Dear Meghann,
Under those that you citied, here in the first link:
"in the case of a motion picture or other audiovisual work, the performance,
or the display of individual images, *is given by means of a copy that was
not lawfully made under this title*,"
and in the second: "*i**f the copyright
Are they in violation of TEACH? Seems like this could be legit, if it's
for distance ed and other provisions are met. I always find it useful
to go straight to the text of the law:
http://www.copyright.gov/title17/92chap1.html#110
... And then provide a useful link to help with interpreting
I'd go for this one: http://www.copyright.gov/title17/92chap12.html but
there's more as well.
But from a distributor's viewpoint, thank you for your concern about
properly using materials!
Best,
Dennis Doros
Milestone Film & Video/Milliarium Zero
PO Box 128
Harrington Park, NJ 07640
Phone: 201-76
Hi all,
I hate to raise this issue again, but apparently the computer geeks on
campus are streaming movies for faculty in a password protected course
mgt system without bothering to get permission/ license. Does anyone
have a concise summary of why this should not happen?
Many thanks.
Pat Mc
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