Re: Vihuela stringing

2005-05-14 Thread bill kilpatrick
i was taught that one of the major factors in bringing down the spanish empire was the hyper inflation created in spain by its monopoly of cheap, new world gold. --- Howard Posner <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Martyn Hodgson wrote: > > > The grounds for Eph's view seems to be that only > the very

Re: Vihuela stringing

2005-05-14 Thread Howard Posner
Martyn Hodgson wrote: > The grounds for Eph's view seems to be that only the very wealthy (ie the > 16thC Spanish) could afford firsts which had been through rigorous quality > checks (with high wastage) to ensure uniformity - we know that this was Is the underlying assumption that because there

Re: Antwort: Re: S. de Murcia

2005-05-14 Thread EUGENE BRAIG IV
- Original Message - From: bill kilpatrick <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Date: Saturday, May 14, 2005 12:08 pm Subject: Re: Antwort: Re: S. de Murcia > > this vihuela is a folk instrument, not one for the > conservatory. there is a south american cathedral - > the name and location escapes me at the

Re: Antwort: Re: S. de Murcia

2005-05-14 Thread bill kilpatrick
this vihuela is a folk instrument, not one for the conservatory. there is a south american cathedral - the name and location escapes me at the moment - with figures holding a charango sized instrument. it's called "la charanguista" and it used to be called "la vihuelista." there are 4,5 and 6 co

Re: Vihuela stringing

2005-05-14 Thread Alexander Batov
Hello Martyn, > I've done a search of the literature to hand and, in addition to the Bermudo extract and Ward's 1953 thesis, can only find a relevant reference in two FoMRHI Comms (30 and 1483) by Eph Segerman. > > None of these sources are convincing either way: > > 1. On unison/octave basses >

Re: Antwort: Re: S. de Murcia

2005-05-14 Thread EUGENE BRAIG IV
Greetings Bill et al. - Original Message - From: bill kilpatrick <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Date: Saturday, May 14, 2005 1:59 am Subject: Re: Antwort: Re: S. de Murcia > > vihuelas - in one or two of the many forms in which > they were introduced into the new world, hundreds of > years ago - cont

Re: Antwort: Re: S. de Murcia

2005-05-14 Thread Roman Turovsky
> My personal opinion ( which isn't worth much ), is that the Spanish luthiers > may > have added a 7th course to enable musicians to play the lute repertoire on the > vihuela de mano, but eventually, the (legendary?) prejudice against the lute ( > "It's Moorish - Yuck!" ) dissipated and more Spani

RE: Antwort: Re: S. de Murcia

2005-05-14 Thread Garry Bryan
Well, As far as the origin of the tiple, cuatro, charango, and assorted other instruments, I think someone could present a strong argument that they evolved from the 16th century Spanish guitar. Of course, they could have evolved from the cittern, or even the medieval lute. If they evolved from

Re: Antwort: Re: S. de Murcia

2005-05-14 Thread Monica Hall
This seems like the right moment to mention that Eloy has made a brilliant CD of music combining baroque sources with son jarocho. It's called Laberinto en la guitarra : el espiritu barroco del son jarocho. It's on the Urtext label (which I think is Mexican), maker's number is UMA 2018. The

Re: Vihuela stringing

2005-05-14 Thread Martyn Hodgson
Thanks Lex/Martin, I've done a search of the literature to hand and, in addition to the Bermudo extract and Ward's 1953 thesis, can only find a relevant reference in two FoMRHI Comms (30 and 1483) by Eph Segerman. None of these sources are convincing either way: 1. On unison/octave basses