[VIHUELA] Re: 5 course guitar - partial strums

2012-06-01 Thread Martyn Hodgson
From: Martyn Hodgson hodgsonmar...@yahoo.co.uk Subject: Re: [VIHUELA] 5 course guitar - partial strums To: Monica Hall mjlh...@tiscali.co.uk Date: Friday, 1 June, 2012, 8:08 Dear Monica, Just to test the envelope a little, a couple of observations arising from

[VIHUELA] Re: 5 course guitar - partial strums

2012-06-01 Thread Monica Hall
Yes indeed. In fact the relevant section in the Eds. Transatlantique edition was written by Rafael Andia and on his recording of the complete works of De Visee he does have the bourdon on the 4th course on the thumb side. It doesn't seem to make a lot of difference to the music.

[VIHUELA] Re: 5 course guitar - partial strums

2012-06-01 Thread Ed Durbrow
I am curious if there is an answer to your question. Tangentally, I have a theory that so many strummed chords didn't include the 5th course, that they didn't even bother to put a dot there if it would make a dissonance, they just assumed you wouldn't include it in the strum. On May 31, 2012,

[VIHUELA] Re: 5 course guitar - partial strums

2012-06-01 Thread Martyn Hodgson
Dear Ed, You'll have seen by now Monica Hall's response and our subsequent discussion. Unless there's any other input, it seems there is no evidence to suggest this sort of string damping - it's probably just a question of employing great precision in strumming; but I'll keep an

[VIHUELA] Re: 5 course guitar - partial strums

2012-06-01 Thread Ed Durbrow
On Jun 1, 2012, at 9:35 PM, Martyn Hodgson wrote: Your point about the 5th course is certainly well made, however, missing this course is not so tricky as avoiding playing the first course when using a downwards index strum. Indeed, I raised the matter since I'd heard quite a few players

[VIHUELA] Re: 5 course guitar - partial strums

2012-06-01 Thread Monica Hall
It is only in French sources that they put in dots at all. They are not used in Italian sources. The idea seems to be prevalent that they included open courses rather indiscriminately but I don't think this is so. The sources which mention that you should include the open courses - Colonna,

[VIHUELA] Re: 5 course guitar - partial strums

2012-06-01 Thread Martyn Hodgson
To be pedantic, the Ms with dots I mentioned (a Lobkowicz Ms - OLIM Prague II Ms Kk77) is probably Austrian or Bohemian in origin. In fact the title page of the first part has ' Pieces Composee Par le Comte Logis' - though perhaps arrangements (if that) rather than original

[VIHUELA] Re: 5 course guitar - partial strums

2012-06-01 Thread Monica Hall
Well - I should have said in French tablature - Original Message - From: Martyn Hodgson hodgsonmar...@yahoo.co.uk To: Ed Durbrow edurb...@sea.plala.or.jp; Monica Hall mjlh...@tiscali.co.uk Cc: Vihuelalist vihuela@cs.dartmouth.edu Sent: Friday, June 01, 2012 5:15 PM