[VIHUELA] Re: 'Tastini' - lack of evidence

2006-03-27 Thread Martyn Hodgson
Dear Monica, Frthr to my last, you may find this of interest Martyn Hodgson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Date: Tue, 5 Apr 2005 10:20:29 +0100 (BST) To: Daniel Shoskes [EMAIL PROTECTED], Lute Net lute@cs.dartmouth.edu CC: Lute Net lute@cs.dartmouth.edu From: Martyn Hodgson [EMAIL PROTECTED

[VIHUELA] Re: Mean tone temperament

2006-03-25 Thread Martyn Hodgson
All good stuff Stewart, but does it apply to the 'baroque' guitar? As has already been pointed out, the use of 'alfabeto' moveable chord shapes impies equal temperament (or near). In particular, the M, N and H chords frequently occur in Italian printed collections using all frets

[VIHUELA] Re: Mean tone temperament

2006-03-23 Thread Martyn Hodgson
Dear Monica, Yes, like you I wonder at it all - surely the point of moveable chord shapes (alfabeto) is that equal temp is taken as read Martyn Monica Hall [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I don't know whether there is still anyone on this list - but if there is perhaps they can

[VIHUELA] Re: Query: Position of octaves on courses 4 5 in late 18thC guitars

2005-11-25 Thread Martyn Hodgson
Martyn Hodgson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Date: Thu, 24 Nov 2005 12:07:37 + (GMT) From: Martyn Hodgson [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Query: Position of octaves on courses 4 5 in late 18thC guitars To: Early Guitar NET early-guitar@cs.dartmouth.edu As Monica (Hall) reports in her

[VIHUELA] Re: Query: Position of octaves on courses 4 5 in late 18thC guitars

2005-11-25 Thread Martyn Hodgson
- 4 octave placements jarana - 1 placement and from the 46 types of charango listed there was one temple requintado tuning with an octave placed on all 5 courses! loaded with options ... pluralism triumphant ... - bill --- Martyn Hodgson wrote: Martyn Hodgson wrote: Date: Thu, 24 Nov

[VIHUELA] Re: Query: Position of octaves on courses 4 5 in late 18thC guitars

2005-11-25 Thread Martyn Hodgson
if it is accompanying several instruments. Monica Martyn Hodgson wrote: Date: Thu, 24 Nov 2005 12:07:37 + (GMT) From: Martyn Hodgson Subject: Query: Position of octaves on courses 4 5 in late 18thC guitars To: Early Guitar NET As Monica (Hall) reports in her monograph on baroque guitar

[VIHUELA] Re: Doubts over the additional 'peghole'

2005-11-03 Thread Martyn Hodgson
- Original Message - From: Martyn Hodgson To: Vihuela Net Sent: Thursday, November 03, 2005 8:41 AM Subject: [VIHUELA] Doubts over the additional 'peghole' Further to all this, I'm not at all persuaded that the extra 'peg hole' is original: as mentioned in previous communications

[VIHUELA] Re: proposed name change

2005-09-06 Thread Martyn Hodgson
I agree with Eugene (see blw), there are no lists as far as I can see on which one would find, say, a discussion of Scheidler's and Molitor's guitar sonates and their relation to the Gallichon?Mandora and from thence the impact of Guiliani in Vienna (it seems that the earlier composers were

[VIHUELA] Re: Foscarini/Corbetta - low basses

2005-09-06 Thread Martyn Hodgson
Monica, Further to the below, grtfl if you cld respond to my earlier message on precisely this matter: I'm not always convinced by yr procrustean analysis. rgds Martyn Monica Hall [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Then Corbetta is to blame, he does that sort of thing all the time. Not

[VIHUELA] Re: Foscarini/Corbetta - low basses

2005-09-05 Thread Martyn Hodgson
Thank you fr ths Lex, I take yr points and, in particular, that Sanz was only recording his recollection of Roman practice. Nevertheless, does it not represent a compelling piece of contemporary (allbeit reported some 20 yrs after his visit) evidence for re-entrant stringing rather than

[VIHUELA] Re: Foscarini/Corbetta - low basses - posn of low octave string

2005-09-05 Thread Martyn Hodgson
Thank you Lex, Regarding posn of low octave on 4th and 5th courses: I do, of course, well understand that modern general practice is for low basses to be 'closest to the floor' (hence my continuation dots..), my reason in raising this matter with you was that if strict part writing in

[VIHUELA] Re: Foscarini/Corbetta - low basses

2005-09-05 Thread Martyn Hodgson
really it is not. You should always consider the possibility that notes on the 5th course belong in the upper octave first. I haven't got time to respond to the rest of the message, which doesn't seem to be complete. Perhaps Lex would send it again. Monica - Original Message - From: Martyn

[VIHUELA] Re: Foscarini/Corbetta - low basses

2005-09-04 Thread Martyn Hodgson
Thank you for this summary of your views Lex. After reading it I went to Corbetta 1648 and, indeed, the style of writing (especially the use of chords on the three 'lowest' courses) does seem rather different to his post 1671 stuff. I had previously thought this was a just a stylistic (ie

[VIHUELA] Re: Foscarini/Corbetta - low basses

2005-09-04 Thread Martyn Hodgson
After my message below Monica Hall [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:Date: Sun, 4 Sep 2005 15:04:35 +0100 To: Martyn Hodgson [EMAIL PROTECTED] CC: vihuela vihuela@cs.dartmouth.edu From: Monica Hall [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [VIHUELA] Re: Foscarini/Corbetta - low basses Maybe Lex forgot to send

[VIHUELA] Re: Foscarini/Corbetta - low basses

2005-09-04 Thread Martyn Hodgson
to the rest of the message, which doesn't seem to be complete. Perhaps Lex would send it again. Monica - Original Message - From: Martyn Hodgson To: Lex Eisenhardt ; Vihuela Net Sent: Sunday, September 04, 2005 9:36 AM Subject: [VIHUELA] Re: Foscarini/Corbetta - low basses Thank you

[VIHUELA] Re: Foscarini/Corbetta - low basses

2005-09-04 Thread Martyn Hodgson
that notes on the 5th course belong in the upper octave first. I haven't got time to respond to the rest of the message, which doesn't seem to be complete. Perhaps Lex would send it again. Monica - Original Message - From: Martyn Hodgson To: Lex Eisenhardt ; Vihuela Net Sent: Sunday

Re: Royal College Dias

2005-06-06 Thread Martyn Hodgson
Thanks fr yr thougt provoking paper Alexander. You asked for comments: Firstly, congrats on marshalling new information and perpectives. I was particularly struck with the Daret painting when you introduced to me some months ago and I agree that the Diaz MAY have been built as a 6 course

Fwd: Re: Vihuela stringing - CORRECTION

2005-05-17 Thread Martyn Hodgson
he based this assertion. Pisador's tuning instructions imply a unison 4th course, but say nothing about the rest. If anyone has more evidence, please share it! Best wishes, Martin Martyn Hodgson wrote: Not so much controversial perhaps but I'd be grateful for views on 16thC 6 course

Vihuela stringing

2005-05-12 Thread Martyn Hodgson
Not so much controversial perhaps but I'd be grateful for views on 16thC 6 course vihuela stringing. There's some evidence that the basses were, unlike the contemporary lute, tuned in unisons but I wonder.. Eph Segerman believes it was partly because the Spanish were so

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