Thank you Matthew,
Yes, I'd seen Robert Barto's exploration of the technique and also the
video close up he posted in 2016 using dedillo. In fact, it was this
single course finger 'strummimng' sort of technique which I'd also,
with mixed success, been tryin
For the record - LSA Quarterly Vol. 50, no. 3, Fall 2015 is devoted to
the vihuela and includes articles by Barto and Philip Rukavina on
dedillo.
Monica
Original Message
From: hodgsonmar...@cs.dartmouth.edu
Date: 10/07/2017 7:25
To: "Lex Eisenhardt", "'Lute Li
You might want to check Robert Barto's articles in the LSA Quarterly and his
recent workshops on dedillo.
Best,
Matthew
> On Jul 9, 2017, at 17:04, Martyn Hodgson
> wrote:
>
> Reading the English language summary (in Lute News 117) of the early
> journals of the So
thing different. Your suggestion seems eminently practical to
me.
Monica
Original Message
From: hodgsonmar...@cs.dartmouth.edu
Date: 10/07/2017 7:25
To: "Lex Eisenhardt", "'Lute List'", "'Vihuela Dmth'"
Subj: [VIHUELA] Re: Vihuela technique: dos
Martyn;
If you check closely, you will notice that Mr. Maier does use the thumb
to steady the index finger in the Mudarra Fantasia No.1 when playing
dedillo.
Gary
On 2017-07-10 00:25, Martyn Hodgson wrote:
> Thanks Lex,
> This (and other clips sent to me) certainly show the index bein
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; 'Vihuela Dmth'
Sent: Sunday, 9 July 2017, 18:05
Subject: [VIHUELA] Re: Vihuela technique: dos dedos and dedillo
Look here for an example:
[1]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nowK9J1A_MU
Lex
-Oorspronkelijk bericht-
Van: [2]lute-...@cs.dartmouth.
technique: dos dedos and dedillo
Reading the English language summary (in Lute News 117) of the early
journals of the Sociedad de la Vihuela 'Hispanica Lyra', I was
again struck by the different right hand plucking techniques evidently
reasonably common and widespread in sixteen
ipally the use of two right hand digits (either the first and
second fingers or the thumb and first finger) ie dos dedos; or the use
of just the index finger to strike the string ie dedillo.
Over the years I have, unsucessfully, tried to use a sort of free
stroke dedillo (similar the in
basic fundamentals outlined in
the sources and already discussed by others, and to clarify what was for me a
newly adopted instrument and playing style. The examples are laid out roughly
in order of difficulty, with the intention of serving as a starting point for
players. A good way of learning de
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> From: "bill kilpatrick" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: "RALPH MAIER" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Cc: "'Vihuela Net'" ;
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Sent: Tuesday, October 30, 2007 10:35 PM
> Subject: [VIH
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To: "RALPH MAIER" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Cc: "'Vihuela Net'" ; <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Tuesday, October 30, 2007 10:35 PM
Subject: [VIHUELA] Re: dedillo
thank you - my thumb over technigue doesn't exist and
it's a relief to know tha
John,
Is the Portuguese guitar you mention the 4-course like the Renaissance guitar
and the uke?
Jocelyn
From: John Griffiths [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tue 10/30/2007 8:41 PM
To: vihuela@cs.dartmouth.edu
Subject: [VIHUELA] Re: dedillo
My two
My two-penneth worth is that we have two main ways of learning about
dedillo from contemporary practice. One is from the variety of
techniques used in vihuela/guitarra-derivatives in Latin America,
such as the charango and various others. The second is the Portuguese
guitar that has
ldn't be anything in the
> construction of the
> instrument that makes this a more likely
> possibility, could there? And
> hats off to Ralph Maier for actually mastering it.
>
> Speaking only as an amateur: the whole business is
> trying to get the
> flesh of the fingers to sou
that makes this a more likely possibility, could there? And
>hats off to Ralph Maier for actually mastering it.
>
>Speaking only as an amateur: the whole business is trying to get the flesh
>of the fingers to sound the strings. But the downward stroke of dedillo
>seems like a
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archiving (is that a word?) problems from your address
might be "spam" related. it happened to me once and i
felt just awful about it (my italian server was to
blame ...)
in ralph maier's excellent article there&#
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> Date: Tuesday, October 30, 2007 4:03 pm
> Subject: [VIHUELA] Re: dedillo
> To: 'Vihuela Net'
> Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
> > archiving (is that a word?) problems from your
> address
> > might be "spam&q
At 06:27 PM 10/30/2007, RALPH MAIER wrote:
>...and index and middle finger (like modern guitarists). The last was
>apparently Fuenllana's fingering of choice.
Intriguing. Also like what Guerau recommended for scalar passages on
treble courses in his guitar book.
Eugene
To get on or off thi
October 30, 2007 4:03 pm
Subject: [VIHUELA] Re: dedillo
To: 'Vihuela Net'
Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> archiving (is that a word?) problems from your address
> might be "spam" related. it happened to me once and i
> felt just awful about it (my italian server was to
>
At 05:25 AM 10/30/2007, bill kilpatrick wrote:
>not sure what the difference is between tremolo and
>dedillo...
Depending, both techniques can coincide. Dedillo is striking the string
with both the up and downstroke, or both the contraction and extension, of
a finger. Tremolo is the
Piccinini says (Cap. XXXI):
>
> Le Tirate segno dello Strascino, si faranno come ho gia deto di sopra
> nel Cap. XXV. e li gruppi similmente strascinati riescano assai bene, ma
> sono però inscipidi, e perciò a farli con un deto si come pur si è detto
> al Cap. IX. riescano ancor in Eccelenza nel C
> The sound quality of dedillo is, I think, unsatisfactory, because of
> the difference in sound between strings plucked by the nail and the
> flesh of the finger. If the vihuelists also found it unsatisfactory,
> why did they play dedillo? The only compensatory factor I can think
&
> it's difficult for me to see the details properly but
> following david hockney's "secret knowledge" expose on
> the painterly use of prisms and mirrors,
Hockney's "expose" has already been debunked, many times over.
RT
http://polyhymnion.org
_
it's difficult for me to see the details properly but
following david hockney's "secret knowledge" expose on
the painterly use of prisms and mirrors, the "left"
hand in the illustration may be a reflection of a
"right" hand.
sweet dreams.
- bill
--- Rob MacKillop <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> OK
Here it is:
http://www.vanedwards.co.uk/spencer/html/Page%20415.html
..care of Robert Spencer, OUP and David Van Edwards.
Rob
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Subject: dedillo
To the "plectrum/dedillo" list could be added Mersenne's four course
mandore, where he mentions the possibility of a plectrum tied to a finger.
(On a plectrum instrument this would also have the effect of freeing the
thumb enabling the playing of chords with h
To the "plectrum/dedillo" list could be added Mersenne's four course
mandore, where he mentions the possibility of a plectrum tied to a finger.
(On a plectrum instrument this would also have the effect of freeing the
thumb enabling the playing of chords with holes on this mandore
I think I can hear Jacob Heringman doing a successful dedillo passage on his
Luis Milan (songs) recording in some of the fantasia solos.
Kenneth
In a message dated 6/8/2005 10:22:42 PM Eastern Standard Time,
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This is an interesting point. I have never heard anyone
(1623) used it on
> the liuto
> attiorbato as well.
>
> Best wishes,
>
> Martin
>
> James A Stimson wrote:
>
> >
> >
> >Dear Ed, Rob and All:
> > Isn't all Indian sitar playing dedillo? That is, I
> believe the strings are
> >p
Dear All,
If I remember correctly, Piccinini (1623) used it on the liuto
attiorbato as well.
Best wishes,
Martin
James A Stimson wrote:
>
>
>Dear Ed, Rob and All:
> Isn't all Indian sitar playing dedillo? That is, I believe the strings are
>plucked exclusively with
bill kilpatrick wrote:
> is dedillo the same as redobles - fast, single line
> passage(s)?
No. Dedillo is a way of playing passages of that sort using only the index
finger, presumably in the manner of a plectrum. It's occasionally marked in
vihuela sources.
HP
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is dedillo the same as redobles - fast, single line
passage(s)?
one could work up a good sized blister on the end of
your finger doing this - real quick. a pick is so
much better.
- bill
--- James A Stimson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>
>
>
> Dear Ed, Rob and All
Dear Ed, Rob and All:
Isn't all Indian sitar playing dedillo? That is, I believe the strings are
plucked exclusively with the right-hand index finger, onto which is fitted
a pointed wire loop, which serves as a plectrum. (Shades of Francesco's
silver thimbles!) There must be so
This is an interesting point. I have never heard anyone perform the
dedillo successfully, with the exception of Ronn McFarlane, who (if my
memory serves me correctly) used it on some Milan pieces in an older solo
CD of his.
Other than that, I know of nobody who now uses it.
ed
At 09:49 PM
never heard of it before - thanks a lot.
just tried it - as described by dante - on the
charango and it worked very nicely in conjunction with
rasgueo.
sort of an acoustic reverb.
- bill
--- Dante Rosati <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Hi-
>
> my theory is that dedillo was use
Interesting topic!
So you want to know how to play dedillo? >:)
If you live in the U.S., just go to a good Mexican restaurant with a good
Mariachi band.
I was in a local restaurant a few months ago and the duo who was serenading the
patrons had stopped at our table. I observed that the
Hi-
my theory is that dedillo was used first because it is what you do when you
are used to playing with a plectrum and decide to try fingers. That way, the
thumb is held against the index finger as if you are holding a pick, but
then you use the index finger tip instead of the pick that could be
Martyn sent me this:
To get back to the Vihuela, - do you know anyone who plays dedillo (I think
that's the term)? ie running passages played with index alone: I've tried,
and failed - dismally.
Thanks and rgds
Martyn
I sympathise with Martyn. Dedillo can sound awful, and I hav
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