Re: App to help with Deliberate Practice / Mavis Beacon Teaches Vim?

2010-04-24 Thread Duane Johnson
On Apr 7, 9:44 pm, Duane Johnson duane.john...@gmail.com wrote: Hi All, When I learned to touch type in high school, we used an application similar to Mavis Beacon Teaches Typing that drilled character sequences into my muscle memory.  I think there was a real advantage to this approach

Re: App to help with Deliberate Practice / Mavis Beacon Teaches Vim?

2010-04-09 Thread John Little
On Thu 08 Apr 2010 at 07:28:22 PDT Tony Mechelynck wrote: Yeah, thinking about it, it looks like we're once more against the conservative = progressive theories of learning (Reminds me of a recent comment I gave on one of Paul Krugman's NYT blog articles). and Charlie Kester replied:

Re: App to help with Deliberate Practice / Mavis Beacon Teaches Vim?

2010-04-09 Thread Charlie Kester
On Fri 09 Apr 2010 at 16:12:10 PDT John Little wrote: On Thu 08 Apr 2010 at 07:28:22 PDT Tony Mechelynck wrote: Yeah, thinking about it, it looks like we're once more against the conservative = progressive theories of learning (Reminds me of a recent comment I gave on one of Paul Krugman's

Re: App to help with Deliberate Practice / Mavis Beacon Teaches Vim?

2010-04-09 Thread Stahlman Family
Tony Mechelynck wrote: On 08/04/10 12:49, John Little wrote: On Apr 8, 2:44 pm, Duane Johnsonduane.john...@gmail.com wrote: When I learned to touch type in high school... ...practice those ones over and over again... I think you're swimming against the strengths of vim. In vim if you

Re: App to help with Deliberate Practice / Mavis Beacon Teaches Vim?

2010-04-09 Thread Pedro Henrique Linhares
On Thu, Apr 8, 2010 at 7:49 AM, John Little john.b.lit...@gmail.com wrote: I think you're swimming against the strengths of vim. In vim if you find yourself doing something over and over again you stop and find a better way, at the least record a macro. That's it, I totally agree! --

Re: App to help with Deliberate Practice / Mavis Beacon Teaches Vim?

2010-04-09 Thread Charlie Kester
On Fri 09 Apr 2010 at 17:58:08 PDT Pedro Henrique Linhares wrote: On Thu, Apr 8, 2010 at 7:49 AM, John Little [1]john.b.lit...@gmail.com wrote: I think you're swimming against the strengths of vim. In vim if you find yourself doing something over and over again you stop and find a

Re: App to help with Deliberate Practice / Mavis Beacon Teaches Vim?

2010-04-08 Thread John Little
On Apr 8, 2:44 pm, Duane Johnson duane.john...@gmail.com wrote: When I learned to touch type in high school... ...practice those ones over and over again... I think you're swimming against the strengths of vim. In vim if you find yourself doing something over and over again you stop and

Re: App to help with Deliberate Practice / Mavis Beacon Teaches Vim?

2010-04-08 Thread Duane Johnson
Thanks for your insights, Tony. I think these will be particularly useful to an intermediate Vim user, although diving in to these resources as a beginner certainly won't hurt. I think what I'm looking for is something like vimtutor, but just slanted a little more toward developing

Re: App to help with Deliberate Practice / Mavis Beacon Teaches Vim?

2010-04-08 Thread Tony Mechelynck
On 08/04/10 12:49, John Little wrote: On Apr 8, 2:44 pm, Duane Johnsonduane.john...@gmail.com wrote: When I learned to touch type in high school... ...practice those ones over and over again... I think you're swimming against the strengths of vim. In vim if you find yourself doing

Re: App to help with Deliberate Practice / Mavis Beacon Teaches Vim?

2010-04-08 Thread bill lam
ĵaŭ, 08 Apr 2010, Duane Johnson skribis: Thanks for your insights, Tony. I think these will be particularly useful to an intermediate Vim user, although diving in to these resources as a beginner certainly won't hurt. I think what I'm looking for is something like vimtutor, but just

Re: App to help with Deliberate Practice / Mavis Beacon Teaches Vim?

2010-04-08 Thread Dan Wierenga
Hi Duane! On Thu, Apr 8, 2010 at 5:14 AM, Duane Johnson duane.john...@gmail.comwrote: I think what I'm looking for is something like vimtutor, but just slanted a little more toward developing muscle-memory. I want a solid base of knowing that w goes to the next word, and that h means left

Re: App to help with Deliberate Practice / Mavis Beacon Teaches Vim?

2010-04-08 Thread Tony Mechelynck
On 08/04/10 14:14, Duane Johnson wrote: Thanks for your insights, Tony. I think these will be particularly useful to an intermediate Vim user, although diving in to these resources as a beginner certainly won't hurt. I think what I'm looking for is something like vimtutor, but just slanted a

Re: App to help with Deliberate Practice / Mavis Beacon Teaches Vim?

2010-04-08 Thread Tony Mechelynck
On 08/04/10 16:28, Tony Mechelynck wrote: [...] And sorry about the double post: SMTP is giving me trouble recently. Best regards, Tony. -- CONCORDE: Message for you, sir. He falls forward revealing the arrow with the note. Monty Python and the Holy Grail PYTHON (MONTY)

Re: App to help with Deliberate Practice / Mavis Beacon Teaches Vim?

2010-04-08 Thread AK
I just want to add that in my view, the best way to practice with Vim interface is to open a file with code you're currently working on and do all the same tasks as you would normally do as you work.. with one tiny difference: instead of focusing on your task, focus on vim operations you're

Re: App to help with Deliberate Practice / Mavis Beacon Teaches Vim?

2010-04-08 Thread Tim Chase
AK wrote: and do all the same tasks as you would normally do as you work.. with one tiny difference: instead of focusing on your task, focus on vim operations you're using, pause for a second and think which commands you could have used, what's the most efficient / easy way to do something,

Re: App to help with Deliberate Practice / Mavis Beacon Teaches Vim?

2010-04-08 Thread Robert H
On 4/8/10 8:14 AM, Duane Johnson wrote: Thanks for your insights, Tony. I think these will be particularly useful to an intermediate Vim user, although diving in to these resources as a beginner certainly won't hurt. I think what I'm looking for is something like vimtutor, but just slanted a

Re: App to help with Deliberate Practice / Mavis Beacon Teaches Vim?

2010-04-08 Thread John Little
On 08/04/10 12:49, John Little wrote: I think you're swimming against the strengths of vim.  In vim if you find yourself doing something over and over again you stop and find a better way, at the least record a macro. and Tony replied: Yeah, thinking about it, it looks like we're once

Re: App to help with Deliberate Practice / Mavis Beacon Teaches Vim?

2010-04-08 Thread Charlie Kester
On Thu 08 Apr 2010 at 07:28:22 PDT Tony Mechelynck wrote: Yeah, thinking about it, it looks like we're once more against the conservative = progressive theories of learning (Reminds me of a recent comment I gave on one of Paul Krugman's NYT blog articles). Tony, I found your pejorative use

App to help with Deliberate Practice / Mavis Beacon Teaches Vim?

2010-04-07 Thread Duane Johnson
Hi All, When I learned to touch type in high school, we used an application similar to Mavis Beacon Teaches Typing that drilled character sequences into my muscle memory. I think there was a real advantage to this approach over simply stumbling through the process of learning to type. The

Re: App to help with Deliberate Practice / Mavis Beacon Teaches Vim?

2010-04-07 Thread Tony Mechelynck
On 08/04/10 04:44, Duane Johnson wrote: Hi All, When I learned to touch type in high school, we used an application similar to Mavis Beacon Teaches Typing that drilled character sequences into my muscle memory. I think there was a real advantage to this approach over simply stumbling through