Re: Free Macs in Asheville, NC

2003-02-06 Thread Gregg Eshelman
--- Joseph Davis [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Thu, 6 Feb 2003 01:07:16 -0500, you wrote: At 00:37 -0500 on 06/02/03, Joseph Davis wrote: Most people want to know what i want with the broken microwaves... That was mostly the point of my question ;) Building a welder, I need the

Re: Free Macs in Asheville, NC

2003-02-06 Thread Joseph Davis
On Thu, 6 Feb 2003 02:34:23 -0800 (PST), you wrote: --- Joseph Davis [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Thu, 6 Feb 2003 01:07:16 -0500, you wrote: At 00:37 -0500 on 06/02/03, Joseph Davis wrote: Most people want to know what i want with the broken microwaves... That was mostly the point of

acoustic coupler

2003-02-06 Thread Terry Ovans
Another no so trivia question. Did anyone recognize the acoustic coupler that Matthew Broderick was using in War Games? What make and model? I am trying to set up an exact duplicate of his set-up in my computer room and would like to find one if it is possible. Thanks for all the great help

Unknown video card, accelerators for sale

2003-02-06 Thread Dan Knight
I've just acquired four Sonnet Presto LC accelerators. These run a 25 MHz 68LC040 processor and fit in the PDS slot of the LC, LC II, and Color Classic. Except for not being compatible with 16-bit video on the Color Classic, these are excellent accelerators. We've used them at home, and I've

Re: My lil' LC

2003-02-06 Thread ELN/rlf9
From: Neal Wingate [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: My lil' LC Message-Id: [EMAIL PROTECTED] This newsgroup is great but I need some specific things. You all say it can be run to receive email and such but you guys never say what hardware you use to get connected. I have an LC that I am going to

Re: Question

2003-02-06 Thread Steve Conrad
These are JUST the suitcase labled System Yeah, I know. Oh yeah, and look for sounds too. -- the pickle I did, one has nothing (ie fonts, sounds, etc.) and the other just the one font (as I mentioned) Some more info...one os off the Macintosh disks (Install Me First, Macintosh LCIII) and the

IIci Router (Was: [swap] WTB: Wired Router)

2003-02-06 Thread Frank P. Eigler
On Thu, 6 Feb 2003, Mike Ford wrote: LEM-Swap is for buying selling Mac stuff. It is not a discussion list. [Ahem...] Easy as can be, take an early mac, the IIci is perfect, put in two cheap nubus network cards and install a free NETbsd router. You learn a little about Unix, put an old

Re: IIci Router (Was: [swap] WTB: Wired Router)

2003-02-06 Thread Dustin Rinebold
I use a Quadra 700 to do this. I don't think about cost- it's just a techy/geeky thing to do. And that's why I like it! I boot it to an external hard drive - copy everything over to a 20Mb RAM disk, then boot to the RAM disk and shut off the hard drive. This makes it really quiet, and it only

My lil' LC

2003-02-06 Thread gigi
Neal wrote: Anyone have anymore links? LC related of course. Pictures of projects in progress would be great as well. By the way, can an LC use an external CD drive as well as an external modem at once? Any hints or recommendation on what kind of VRAM to upgrade to? Hì Neal! Yess! LC's can do

Silly question (ether+Atalk)

2003-02-06 Thread gigi
Hì list! Maybe this is a silly question, but one can never know... I would like to share files between my two LC III's (OS 7.1) using the built in port while one of the two is connected via the NIC to the ADSL modem. Is it feasible? Can the OS handle both? I tried many configurations, but as I've

Re: My lil' LC to the Pickle

2003-02-06 Thread Neal Wingate
Pickle: If you can actually help instead of stating obvious items that would be great. recommendation on what kind of VRAM to upgrade to? What I mean is what kind to handle color monitors and such. Are there brand names or just generic Apple varieties. Just bought my stuff from Sonnet but

Re: IIci Router (Was: [swap] WTB: Wired Router)

2003-02-06 Thread the pickle
At 13:20 -0600 on 06/02/03, Dustin Rinebold wrote: I use a Quadra 700 to do this. I don't think about cost- it's just a techy/geeky thing to do. And that's why I like it! I boot it to an Well, you know, just as long as you're OK with wasting the extra few hundred kilowatt-hours per month of

Re: Silly question (ether+Atalk)

2003-02-06 Thread the pickle
At 22:05 +0200 on 06/02/03, gigi wrote: Maybe this is a silly question, but one can never know... I would like to share files between my two LC III's (OS 7.1) using the built in port while one of the two is connected via the NIC to the ADSL modem. Grab LocalTalk Bridge from Apple and you're all

Re: My lil' LC to the Pickle

2003-02-06 Thread the pickle
At 16:08 -0500 on 06/02/03, Neal Wingate wrote: If you can actually help instead of stating obvious items that would be great. If you can read what you've been asked to instead of asking questions that have been asked and answered a bazillion times before, that would likewise be great. What I

Re: Silly question (ether+Atalk)

2003-02-06 Thread Clark Martin
At 10:05 PM +0200 2/6/2003, gigi wrote: Hì list! Maybe this is a silly question, but one can never know... I would like to share files between my two LC III's (OS 7.1) using the built in port while one of the two is connected via the NIC to the ADSL modem. Is it feasible? Can the OS handle both?

Re: IIci Router (Was: [swap] WTB: Wired Router)

2003-02-06 Thread the pickle
At 13:27 -0800 on 06/02/03, Clark Martin wrote: At 4:09 PM -0500 2/6/2003, the pickle wrote: At 13:20 -0600 on 06/02/03, Dustin Rinebold wrote: I use a Quadra 700 to do this. I don't think about cost- it's just a techy/geeky thing to do. And that's why I like it! I boot it to an Well, you know,

Re: My lil' LC to the Pickle

2003-02-06 Thread Neal Wingate
Pickle. I don't spend my life trawling newsgroups so forgive me. *Bangs head on blunt object* Neal ~~~ www.turnoffyourtv.com -- Vintage Macs is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Enter To Win A | -- Canon PowerShot Digital

Re: My lil' LC to the Pickle

2003-02-06 Thread the pickle
At 16:58 -0500 on 06/02/03, Neal Wingate wrote: Pickle. I don't spend my life trawling newsgroups so forgive me. Nah, but you weren't literally deluged with links to the FAQ either...oh, wait, I forgot... Every list post footer has it. Every list welcome message has it, or don't you bother

Re: My lil' LC to the Pickle

2003-02-06 Thread iriXx
that sort of attitude is rapidly putting me off reading this list. just wait and think a minute before you tear into someone, about how many other readers and/or lurkers might be put off this list by your attitude. i've sat and watched this for several months now and each time i see outbursts

Re: IIci Router (Was: [swap] WTB: Wired Router)

2003-02-06 Thread Clark Martin
At 4:39 PM -0500 2/6/2003, the pickle wrote: At 13:27 -0800 on 06/02/03, Clark Martin wrote: Minor detail but a Q700 uses around 35KWh per month, not hundreds Did you get that by measuring actual power draw? 24*30*230W (the rating on the PSU, which I realise is a maximum) gives 165

Re: My lil' LC to the Pickle

2003-02-06 Thread the pickle
At 22:22 + on 06/02/03, iriXx wrote: that sort of attitude is rapidly putting me off reading this list. As I said. If you're too good to follow common netiquette, that's your own problem. Don't make it mine. -- the pickle FAQ http://macfaq.org/index.shtml

Re: IIci Router (Was: [swap] WTB: Wired Router)

2003-02-06 Thread the pickle
At 14:10 -0800 on 06/02/03, Clark Martin wrote: Actual power draw of a Q700 measured with a watt meter - 49 W. FYI my SMC Barricade wireless router draws 5W. I'll take an 80% reduction in power consumption any day. -- the pickle FAQ http://macfaq.org/index.shtml

Re: My lil' LC to the Pickle

2003-02-06 Thread iriXx
the pickle wrote: As I said. If you're too good to follow common netiquette, that's your own problem. Don't make it mine. oh i'm not, but you seem to be doing a good job of making it into your own problem. listmom - do you have anything to say on this matter? its not the first totally

Re: My lil' LC to the Pickle

2003-02-06 Thread the pickle
Thus spake Iggy Drougge on Compact Macs two years ago, when this very topic came up: At 02:07 +0100 01/11/00, Iggy Drougge wrote: To me, not reading the FAQ is ignorance spiced with arrogance. If you can't be arsed to go through the FAQ, you shpould pay for a helpline instead of relying on the

Re: IIci Router (Was: [swap] WTB: Wired Router)

2003-02-06 Thread the pickle
At 00:45 +0100 on 07/02/03, Marten van de Kraats wrote: Guilty as charged! At the moment I have turned on in my room: [a lot of stuff] Yeah, but your country isn't about to bomb the shit out of Iraq to appease your leader's dad, either. -- the pickle FAQ http://macfaq.org/index.shtml

Re: IIci Router (Was: [swap] WTB: Wired Router)

2003-02-06 Thread Marten van de Kraats
At 00:45 +0100 on 07/02/03, Marten van de Kraats wrote: Guilty as charged! At the moment I have turned on in my room: [a lot of stuff] Yeah, but your country isn't about to bomb the sh*t out of Iraq to appease your leader's dad, either. -- And so, what are you afraid of? After the removal of

Re: IIci Router (Was: [swap] WTB: Wired Router)

2003-02-06 Thread the pickle
At 01:25 +0100 on 07/02/03, Marten van de Kraats wrote: And so, what are you afraid of? After the removal of Saddam the oil Whoa there buddy. Removal of Saddam? At what cost? *I* don't wanna get drafted into this mess. I don't think we have any business over there in the first place. Dubya

Re: IIci Router (Was: [swap] WTB: Wired Router)

2003-02-06 Thread Lyle Syverson
I use a Quadra 700 to do this. I don't think about cost- it's just a techy/geeky thing to do. And that's why I like it! I boot it to an --- cut --- Then On Thu, 6 Feb 2003, the pickle wrote: Even if a typical Mac draws 50% of the max at what amounts to idle, that's still $5-10/month,

Re: My lil' LC to the Pickle

2003-02-06 Thread Neal Wingate
This was , or I thought, a matter between pickle and myself. He/she caught me correctly in saying I need to be more patient and just lurk and learn. As of now I consider the matter dropped. Pickle was just doing us a service in that things that have been said a ba-zillion times won't need to to

Re: IIci Router (Was: [swap] WTB: Wired Router)

2003-02-06 Thread the pickle
At 19:38 -0600 on 06/02/03, Lyle Syverson wrote: Well... don't overlook the environmental impact of manufacturing the new router and throwing the old computer into the landfill. It's a dilemma, for sure. Recycling the old computer is probably still better than keeping it up and running

Re: IIci Router (Was: [swap] WTB: Wired Router)

2003-02-06 Thread dustinr
Yeah, uh, that's a LOT. Well yes, it's a lot compared to a Linksys router. That's true. I could also choose to not have internet service at all, which would save the electricty used by my cable modem. Heck, I'll stop getting cable altogether, and get rid of my televisions. Even better - if I

Re: IIci Router (Was: [swap] WTB: Wired Router)

2003-02-06 Thread dustinr
Yeah, uh, that's a LOT. Well yes, it's a lot compared to a Linksys router. That's true. I could also choose to not have internet service at all, which would save the electricty used by my cable modem. Heck, I'll stop getting cable altogether, and get rid of my televisions. Even better - if I

Sorry...

2003-02-06 Thread dustinr
Sorry for the double post, folks. IMP doesn't seem to like these lists very much. -dmr -- Vintage Macs is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Enter To Win A | -- Canon PowerShot Digital Cameras start at $299 | Free iBook! |

Re: My lil' LC to the Pickle

2003-02-06 Thread the pickle
At 20:07 -0500 on 06/02/03, Neal Wingate wrote: won't need to to come up again. If I could shake your hand pickle I would if you would let me. As of now the matter is dropped. :) Keep it real, Neal. Peace. :) -- the pickle FAQ http://macfaq.org/index.shtml

Re: IIci Router (Was: [swap] WTB: Wired Router)

2003-02-06 Thread the pickle
At 19:17 -0600 on 06/02/03, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: fact that you're on a vintage Mac list indicates to me that you consume your share of electricity for pleasure reasons too. Perhaps :) But I also don't use anything but my TiBook most of the time if I can avoid it, and having a laptop helps

Re: IIci Router (Was: [swap] WTB: Wired Router)

2003-02-06 Thread Steve Conrad
Pickle - if you want to make an environmental statement, it seems to me that you should go after people wasting on the order of kWatts - not 25 Watts. Guilty as charged! At the moment I have turned on in my room: - A IIci w/a Macintosh Color Display - Bernoulli Dual w/two disks in it - Bernoulli

Re: IIci Router (Was: [swap] WTB: Wired Router)

2003-02-06 Thread Steve Conrad
At 20:38 -0600 on 06/02/03, Steve Conrad wrote: - WebTV Plus (not conected to the Net/Web) - VCR (no, I am not watching a movie right now nor do I have cable) Whatever for? -- the pickle - I meant that I am not browsing the web on the WebTV Plus at this time nor am I watching a movie right

Re: IIci Router (Was: [swap] WTB: Wired Router)

2003-02-06 Thread the pickle
At 20:59 -0600 on 06/02/03, Steve Conrad wrote: - I meant that I am not browsing the web on the WebTV Plus at this time nor am I watching a movie right now. I just don't turn them off unless I really have to. Well, it's your own business, but why the heck not? -- the pickle FAQ

Re: Q700 operating costs Was: IIci Router Was: Wired Router

2003-02-06 Thread Dustin Rinebold
I think your computer is off by a factor of thirty. If not, let me know where you live. I want to get some of that utility company's stock. ;-) Is it? Are you saying that I should be paying 90 dollars a month, or only 10 cents? (I used one of those little online calculator thingies

Re: Q700 operating costs Was: IIci Router Was: Wired Router

2003-02-06 Thread the pickle
At 23:06 -0600 on 06/02/03, Dustin Rinebold wrote: Is it? Are you saying that I should be paying 90 dollars a month, or only 10 cents? (I used one of those little online calculator thingies awhile ago to figure this out). If you REALLY want me to, I can dig up a utility bill and do the

Re: acoustic coupler

2003-02-06 Thread Gregg Eshelman
--- Terry Ovans [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Another no so trivia question. Did anyone recognize the acoustic coupler that Matthew Broderick was using in War Games? What make and model? I am trying to set up an exact duplicate of his set-up in my computer room and would like to find one if it

Re: Q700 operating costs Was: IIci Router Was: Wired Router

2003-02-06 Thread Dana Sibera
On Friday, February 7, 2003, at 04:06 PM, Dustin Rinebold wrote: My Q700 draws 31W...Works out to about $3 worth of electricity per day where I live. I think your computer is off by a factor of thirty. If not, let me know where you live. I want to get some of that utility company's

Re: Q700 operating costs Was: IIci Router Was: Wired Router

2003-02-06 Thread James S Jones
31 Watts is roughly a third as much as an average porch light. A typical water heater probably uses about 3000 Watts, or 100 times as much. By your rate calculation, keeping hot water would cost you thousands a month. For an individual, the power used running personal computers is a

Re: Q700 operating costs Was: IIci Router Was: Wired Router

2003-02-06 Thread E McCann
At 10:46 PM 2/6/2003, James S Jones typed thusly: For an individual, the power used running personal computers is a non-event, financially -- even in areas with the highest rates. OTOH, I often have several going one way or another... I just tend to turn the monitor off. So, is the monitor