Re: Sharing new printers with older Macs. Re:

2002-10-30 Thread Charles Shannon Hendrix
On Wed, Oct 30, 2002 at 05:07:06AM +0100, Marten van de Kraats wrote: Personally I never saw the point of print servers, but there might be environments which make them usefull otherwise they would not be around. They are a big benefit in non-trivial situations, or even at home if you have

color printing Re: Sharing new printers with older Macs. Re:

2002-10-30 Thread Marten van de Kraats
Our friend Charles Shannon Hendrix (probably derived from the Dutch name Hendriks) is really up to something. I am starting to get the picture... This rip unix print server thing might allow vintage macs to do high resolution color printing, something that was a bit out their league because of

Re: color printing Re: Sharing new printers with older Macs. Re:

2002-10-30 Thread dan_A
It will take the vintage mac some time to send the enormous postscipt files to the print server but once it is there and the print server is fast enough, you'll get a high resolution color print without having to wait that long... Marten -- More expensive than RRs... I don't know if anyone

Re: color printing Re: Sharing new printers with older Macs. Re:

2002-10-30 Thread Charles Shannon Hendrix
On Wed, Oct 30, 2002 at 11:24:18PM +0100, Marten van de Kraats wrote: Our friend Charles Shannon Hendrix (probably derived from the Dutch name Hendriks) is really up to something. I've been trying... :) It will take the vintage mac some time to send the enormous postscipt files to the

Re: Sharing new printers with older Macs. Re:

2002-10-29 Thread Marten van de Kraats
On Mon, Oct 28, 2002 at 01:30:02PM +0010, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Every 68k Mac can print to any postscript laserprinter (emulated postscript and real postscript) that talks appletalk (these specs involve about every ...which doesn't do you any good if your printer is not capable of

Re: Sharing new printers with older Macs. Re:

2002-10-29 Thread Marten van de Kraats
Depends on how well the PostScript is emulated. :P I had a Qume CrystalPrint Publisher II that would work, barely, when it felt like it with the LaserWriter drivers compatable with Mac OS 7.6.1 on my Power IIci. With olde enough drivers and System 7.1 it worked fine. Tried to install older

Re: Adobe's prnter drivers download. Re: Sharing new printers with older Macs. Re:

2002-10-29 Thread Gregg Eshelman
--- Marten van de Kraats [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: For Macintosh http://www.adobe.com/support/downloads/product.jsp?product=44platform=Macintosh For Windows http://www.adobe.com/support/downloads/product.jsp?product=44platform=Windows There you'll also find PPD files for Mac and

Re: Sharing new printers with older Macs. Re:

2002-10-29 Thread Charles Shannon Hendrix
On Mon, Oct 28, 2002 at 09:04:17PM -0800, Gregg Eshelman wrote: Depends on how well the PostScript is emulated. :P I had a Qume CrystalPrint Publisher II that would work, barely, when it felt like it with the LaserWriter drivers compatable with Mac OS 7.6.1 on my Power IIci. With olde enough

Re: Sharing new printers with older Macs. Re:

2002-10-29 Thread Charles Shannon Hendrix
On Tue, Oct 29, 2002 at 11:02:49AM +0100, Marten van de Kraats wrote: For example, I have a color Epson Stylus Color 880 hooked up to my UNIX machine running CUPS and GIMP-Print drivers. As far as I know that is the only way to make this printer available to any system on the LAN, as a color

Re: Adobe's prnter drivers download. Re: Sharing new printers with older Macs. Re:

2002-10-29 Thread Charles Shannon Hendrix
On Tue, Oct 29, 2002 at 11:11:31AM +0100, Marten van de Kraats wrote: These ppd files are the same for every operating system from unix to mac to windows, as someone on this list has already stated before. Actually, they vary. I have had some software choke on Mac PPD files for example. Try

Re: Sharing new printers with older Macs. Re:

2002-10-29 Thread Gregg Eshelman
If you have a printer with 68k Mac drivers and an ethernet LAN, grab one of the HP JetDirect EX printserver boxes off eBay. You want to make certain to get the Ethernet version! There's also a JetDirect EX Plus 3 that can run 3 printers. Make sure you get the power supply because it uses a

Re: Sharing new printers with older Macs. Re:

2002-10-29 Thread Marten van de Kraats
The thread is about getting a Mac to talk to a UNIX print server. Originally maybe, but other related printing issues were being discussed too. That's the way these lists work. I was discussing one of those other related issues. I know all about what a network PostScript printer can do. If I

Re: Sharing new printers with older Macs. Re:

2002-10-29 Thread the pickle
At 05:07 +0100 on 30/10/02, Marten van de Kraats wrote: I know all about what a network PostScript printer can do. If I had one of those I might not have started the thread! You should get one. They are not very expensive secondhand and very cheap in usage compared to inkjet printers, besides

Re: Sharing new printers with older Macs. Re:

2002-10-28 Thread system6heaven
Quoting Gregg Eshelman [EMAIL PROTECTED]: What if it's a new printer without 68k drivers and doesn't have LaserWriter emulation? (Or emulation for any other PostScript printer brand that had 68k drivers?) Every 68k Mac can print to any postscript laserprinter (emulated postscript and real

Re: Sharing new printers with older Macs. Re:

2002-10-28 Thread James S Jones
Any PostScript printer should work, not just laser printers. There are inkjet printers, image setters, etc, that have hardware or software PS RIPs. All PostScript printers have PPDs, by definition. PPDs are plain text files and, in my experience, cross platform. If you find a Mac, Windows,

Re: Sharing new printers with older Macs. Re:

2002-10-28 Thread Marten van de Kraats
All PostScript printers have PPDs, by definition. PPDs are plain text files and, in my experience, cross platform. If you find a Mac, Windows, UNIX, etc, PPD for your printer, it should work with a Mac OS printer driver. Also, many 68K machines running System 7 or 8 can use use an older version

Re: Sharing new printers with older Macs. Re:

2002-10-28 Thread Charles Shannon Hendrix
On Mon, Oct 28, 2002 at 01:30:02PM +0010, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Every 68k Mac can print to any postscript laserprinter (emulated postscript and real postscript) that talks appletalk (these specs involve about every ...which doesn't do you any good if your printer is not capable of

Re: Sharing new printers with older Macs. Re:

2002-10-28 Thread Charles Shannon Hendrix
On Mon, Oct 28, 2002 at 07:38:41AM -0800, James S Jones wrote: Any PostScript printer should work, not just laser printers. There are inkjet printers, image setters, etc, that have hardware or software PS RIPs. *IF* you can communicate with it in the protocol is wants. Right now most all

Re: Sharing new printers with older Macs. Re:

2002-10-28 Thread Gregg Eshelman
--- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Quoting Gregg Eshelman [EMAIL PROTECTED]: What if it's a new printer without 68k drivers and doesn't have LaserWriter emulation? (Or emulation for any other PostScript printer brand that had 68k drivers?) Every 68k Mac can print to any postscript

Adobe's prnter drivers download. Re: Sharing new printers with older Macs. Re:

2002-10-28 Thread Gregg Eshelman
For Macintosh http://www.adobe.com/support/downloads/product.jsp?product=44platform=Macintosh For Windows http://www.adobe.com/support/downloads/product.jsp?product=44platform=Windows There you'll also find PPD files for Mac and Windows as well as a few INF files for Windows. For Mac the

Re: Sharing new printers with older Macs.

2002-10-27 Thread Phil Beesley
On Sunday, October 27, 2002, at 07:28 am, Charles Shannon Hendrix [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The point is to share the printer. It's hooked up to a UNIX system. All the machines share it via the print spooler. The server uses GhostScript so every machine prints PostScript to it.

Re: Sharing new printers with older Macs. Re:

2002-10-27 Thread the pickle
At 22:54 +0200 on 26/10/02, Marten van de Kraats wrote: to be able to pull this trick. This means that one must use a printer with unix (linux mostly) driver software. Sorry, if I sound a bit confused, but I don't get the picture right away... Can one, considering the fact that there is also rip

Re: Sharing new printers with older Macs. Re:

2002-10-27 Thread Charles Shannon Hendrix
On Sat, Oct 26, 2002 at 04:08:23PM -0500, the pickle wrote: As crazy as this sounds, it's probably a lot easier to do with *nix (including OS X) than with any other platform. Gimp-print claims to have better drivers than the manufacturers' drivers in most cases, and it runs great on OS X or

Re: Sharing new printers with older Macs. Re:

2002-10-27 Thread the pickle
At 15:50 -0600 on 27/10/02, Christopher Melita wrote: Hi all I got my copy of 7.1 installed it and turned on the color. It works great thanks for the help. I even installed a copy of word 6.1 hehehe I really really really - for the sake of your own sanity - hope you mean 5.1. -- the pickle

Re: Sharing new printers with older Macs. Re:

2002-10-27 Thread Marten van de Kraats
What is the point? All Macs support post script printing right out of the box. The point is to share the printer. It's hooked up to a UNIX system. All the machines share it via the print spooler. The server uses GhostScript so every machine prints PostScript to it. So... in order for the

Re: Sharing new printers with older Macs. Re:

2002-10-27 Thread Charles Shannon Hendrix
On Mon, Oct 28, 2002 at 03:10:23AM +0100, Marten van de Kraats wrote: All Macs support postscript printing over appletalk anyway. Postscript laserwriters have always been network printers in Mac networks, with or without a unix machine. I know that... You don't need a unix machine to

Re: Sharing new printers with older Macs. Re:

2002-10-27 Thread Gregg Eshelman
--- Marten van de Kraats [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: All Macs support postscript printing over appletalk anyway. Postscript laserwriters have always been network printers in Mac networks, with or without a unix machine. You don't need a unix machine to share a postscript printer in a Mac

Re: Sharing new printers with older Macs. Re:

2002-10-26 Thread Charles Shannon Hendrix
On Fri, Oct 25, 2002 at 09:52:40PM -0700, Gregg Eshelman wrote: Firstly, your printer must have 68k drivers that will work with the System or Mac OS version you have. [snip] What about using a UNIX machine to serve the printing needs of 68k Macs? Is there any software for the Mac to talk to

Re: Sharing new printers with older Macs. Re:

2002-10-26 Thread Marten van de Kraats
What about using a UNIX machine to serve the printing needs of 68k Macs? Is there any software for the Mac to talk to a standard BSD print service? That way you could have a PostScript printer or even a GhostScript controlled printer on a UNIX host for the Mac to print to. What is the point?

Re: Sharing new printers with older Macs. Re:

2002-10-26 Thread Shane J. Wolfe
Subject: Re: Sharing new printers with older Macs. Re: What about using a UNIX machine to serve the printing needs of 68k Macs? Is there any software for the Mac to talk to a standard BSD print service? That way you could have a PostScript printer or even a GhostScript controlled printer

Re: Sharing new printers with older Macs. Re:

2002-10-26 Thread the pickle
At 22:21 +0200 on 26/10/02, Marten van de Kraats wrote: What about using a UNIX machine to serve the printing needs of 68k Macs? Is there any software for the Mac to talk to a standard BSD print service? That way you could have a PostScript printer or even a GhostScript controlled printer on a

Re: Sharing new printers with older Macs. Re:

2002-10-26 Thread Marten van de Kraats
What is the point? All Macs support post script printing right out of the box. Right, but not many inkjets, which are what people normally want via USB, do. There are *nix packages that can act as software RIPs and turn an inkjet into a pseudo-PostScript printer. M So in order to

Re: Sharing new printers with older Macs. Re:

2002-10-26 Thread Charles Shannon Hendrix
On Sat, Oct 26, 2002 at 04:27:22PM -0400, the pickle wrote: Right, but not many inkjets, which are what people normally want via USB, do. There are *nix packages that can act as software RIPs and turn an inkjet into a pseudo-PostScript printer. Exactly. I've been able to print some very

Re: Sharing new printers with older Macs. Re:

2002-10-26 Thread Charles Shannon Hendrix
On Sat, Oct 26, 2002 at 10:21:38PM +0200, Marten van de Kraats wrote: What about using a UNIX machine to serve the printing needs of 68k Macs? Is there any software for the Mac to talk to a standard BSD print service? That way you could have a PostScript printer or even a GhostScript

Sharing new printers with older Macs. Re:

2002-10-25 Thread Gregg Eshelman
--- Ian Johnson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: How do you set that up? It sure would help me out with my Macs. Also, can a Mac with a non-USB OS like System 7.1 use shared USB printers on newer Macs if the older Mac has the printer's driver installed? Firstly, your printer must have 68k drivers