RE: iPhone latest update

2019-12-24 Thread territek
Hello Steve, that bug seems to have been fixed as of 13.2.3. I have not had that problem since 13.1. Best, Terri13.3 -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com On Behalf Of Steve Matzura Sent: Tuesday, December 24, 2019 8:46 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: iPhone la

Re: iPhone latest update

2019-12-24 Thread Steve Matzura
Absolutely not. It updates when I say it can, and I won't unless and until the aforementioned VoiceOver problem has definitely been fixed. Tell me that one's been squashed, and I'll lower the gates and let it in. Otherwise, no thank you. Don't need it, don't want it. On 12/24/2019 10:12 PM, T

Re: iPhone latest update

2019-12-24 Thread Steve Matzura
Yes, looks that way. On 12/24/2019 3:33 PM, janet gross wrote: HI Steve, I think it might depend on which iPhone you have, as far as the iOS 12 updates. Although, I could very well be wrong, in which I wouldn't mind being wrong now, as I do not want the iOS 13 update either. I just download

Re: iPhone latest update

2019-12-24 Thread Steve Matzura
OK, I guess it' 13.3 or bust. Maybe I'll get brave. On 12/24/2019 2:14 PM, Dave wrote: If your phone, is higher than an iPhone 6, then you can't do it. Dave. -Original Message- From: Steve Matzura Sent: Tuesday, December 24, 2019 7:00 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: iPho

Re: iPhone latest update

2019-12-24 Thread Steve Matzura
I'll tell you why I don't want to. I'm panicky about that early-13 phone and VoiceOver problem where VO died when disconnecting from a telephone or FaceTime call. If that bug is till extant, I cannot possibly have that happen to me when I'm away from sighted asistance to turn the phone off.

Re: iPhone latest update

2019-12-24 Thread Steve Matzura
You can also put "Sounds" on the rotor and turn them off that way. On 12/23/2019 6:18 PM, Gordon wrote: It's been a little while since I've turned that stuff off on my phone, but I think you'll go to settings, accessibility, voice over and then audio if I remember correctly. On 12/23/2019 4:

Re: iPhone latest update

2019-12-24 Thread Terri Hedgpeth
On Tue, Dec 24, 2019 at 7:33 PM Joshua Hendrickson wrote: > My iPhone almost began the update process. If I had entered in my > passcode my phone would have updated. However, I found the remind me > later button and that's what I double tapped on. I was also told that > if my iPhone were on po

Re: iPhone latest update

2019-12-24 Thread Joshua Hendrickson
My iPhone almost began the update process. If I had entered in my passcode my phone would have updated. However, I found the remind me later button and that's what I double tapped on. I was also told that if my iPhone were on power between 2 and 4 in the morning my iPhone would update automatica

RE: iPhone latest update

2019-12-24 Thread Mr. Ed
If you have an iPhone 6 you will not be able to update it to IOS 13 or higher. But if you have a 6s or higher you can update to IOS 13 or higher. If you have an 6s,6s plus,6 SE, 7, 7 plus, 8, 8 plus or higher why would you not want to update to IOS 13. It workds quite well now. Mr. Ed -Orig

RE: iPhone latest update

2019-12-24 Thread Mr. Ed
May I asked why you don't want to download IOS 13? Mr. Ed -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of janet gross Sent: Tuesday, December 24, 2019 2:27 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: iPhone latest update HI Joshua, I don

RE: iPhone latest update

2019-12-24 Thread janet gross
HI Steve, I think it might depend on which iPhone you have, as far as the iOS 12 updates. Although, I could very well be wrong, in which I wouldn't mind being wrong now, as I do not want the iOS 13 update either. I just downloaded the iOS 12.4.4, but that was on my iPhone 6, and I don't see t

Re: iPhone latest update

2019-12-24 Thread Arnold Schmidt
I think that is unfortunate. But then, I guess they want to encourage those who can to update to 13. If I could, I would. Arnold Schmidt Sent from Arnold's iPhone On Dec 24, 2019, at 3:15 PM, Joshua Hendrickson wrote: Dave is correct. I just talked to apple accessibility and that's wha

RE: iPhone latest update

2019-12-24 Thread janet gross
HI Joshua, I don't think you will get any iOS 12 updates unless you're on an iPhone 6 or less. I did download iOS 12.4.4, but that was for my iPhone 6, but I didn't see that update on my xr iPhone though. I still haven't downloaded iOS 13 as of yet either. Janet -Original Message

RE: iPhone latest update

2019-12-24 Thread Richard Turner
That is most certainly correct. Since Apple stopped signing iOS 12 a long time ago, if you update, you will get 13.3. on any device newer than an iPhone 6. Having said that, there might be a way to dig up the full operating system install file from the Internet Archive. But, that is way beyond m

RE: iPhone latest update

2019-12-24 Thread janet gross
HI All, Yes, I just downloaded iOS 12.4.4 to my iPhone 6. I have to admit though, I was quite surprised to see this update. Janet -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Arnold Schmidt Sent: Tuesday, December 24, 2019 1:13 PM

Re: iPhone latest update

2019-12-24 Thread Joshua Hendrickson
Dave is correct. I just talked to apple accessibility and that's what I was told as well. On 12/24/19, Dave wrote: > If your phone, is higher than an iPhone 6, then you can't do it. > > Dave. > > > -Original Message- > From: Steve Matzura > Sent: Tuesday, December 24, 2019 7:00 PM > To:

Re: iPhone latest update

2019-12-24 Thread Dave
If your phone, is higher than an iPhone 6, then you can't do it. Dave. -Original Message- From: Steve Matzura Sent: Tuesday, December 24, 2019 7:00 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: iPhone latest update Now there's a fine question: I'm on 12.4.1. If there are version 12 up

Re: iPhone latest update

2019-12-24 Thread Arnold Schmidt
As I wrote in another message, it is up to 12.4.4 now. It downloaded itself to my phone earlier today, even though I have automatic updates turned off. I will install it later today. Go into settings, general, software updates, and have it check, it should find it. Arnold Schmidt Sent from

Re: iPhone latest update

2019-12-24 Thread Joshua Hendrickson
I'm wondering the same thing. I would want my phone to be updated to 12.44 if at all possible. On 12/24/19, Steve Matzura wrote: > Now there's a fine question: I'm on 12.4.1. If there are version 12 > updates, how do I get them, and avoid installing 13.3, which I > absolutely do not want to do?

Re: iPhone latest update

2019-12-24 Thread Steve Matzura
Now there's a fine question: I'm on 12.4.1. If there are version 12 updates, how do I get them, and avoid installing 13.3, which I absolutely do not want to do? On 12/24/2019 1:57 PM, Arnold Schmidt wrote: I don't know how long they will last, but we got a security update today, to 12.4.4. I

Re: iPhone latest update

2019-12-24 Thread Arnold Schmidt
I don't know how long they will last, but we got a security update today, to 12.4.4. It took a while to get straightened out, but if this iPhone 6 would update to it, I would have long since updated it to 13. Sent from Arnold's iPhone On Dec 24, 2019, at 12:48 PM, Mr. Ed wrote: Also you do

RE: What is the expand speaking bar and how do I disable it?

2019-12-24 Thread Richard Turner
The Vertical bar at the bottom of screens is here to stay unless Apple listens to everyone who doesn't like it. So, write both accessibil...@apple.com and go to the www.apple.com/feedback page and fill out the feedback form. But don't confuse the vertical bar with any particular setting as it ap

RE: iPhone latest update

2019-12-24 Thread Mr. Ed
Also you don't get security updates if you stay on IOS 12. Mr. Ed -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Kelly Pierce Sent: Monday, December 23, 2019 9:47 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: iPhone latest update How about

RE: What is the expand speaking bar and how do I disable it?

2019-12-24 Thread Carolyn
Right about what is there. I thought it was the vertical scroll bar too. -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Richard Turner Sent: Tuesday, December 24, 2019 9:37 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: What is the expand

RE: What is the expand speaking bar and how do I disable it?

2019-12-24 Thread Carolyn
I saw nothing in Spoken Content abut Expand Speaking Bar. If I did, would that get rid of that bar that has so much percent of how many pages? I'd be happy to eliminate that one. -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Richard Tu

Re: What is the expand speaking bar and how do I disable it?

2019-12-24 Thread l . d . ethier23
Sorry, I thought you gave the way to turn off this vertical scroll bar. Lyne > Le 24 déc. 2019 à 09:36, Richard Turner a écrit > : > > I never said anything about a vertical bar so I'm not sure what you are > talking about. > The first two things in the Spoken Content settings read as follows

Re: What is the expand speaking bar and how do I disable it?

2019-12-24 Thread Richard Turner
I never said anything about a vertical bar so I'm not sure what you are talking about. The first two things in the Spoken Content settings read as follows: Spoken Content Speak Selection A Speak button will appear when you select text. Speak Screen Swipe down with two fingers from the top of the s

Re: What is the expand speaking bar and how do I disable it?

2019-12-24 Thread l . d . ethier23
Hello Richard, I didn't see vertical scroll bar when I go to spocken content... Thank to help Lyne > Le 24 déc. 2019 à 07:10, Richard Turner a écrit > : > > Actually, that is from the speak selection setting. > If you never want that, go to Settings, Accessibility, Spoken Content, and > tur

Re: What is the expand speaking bar and how do I disable it?

2019-12-24 Thread Richard Turner
Actually, that is from the speak selection setting. If you never want that, go to Settings, Accessibility, Spoken Content, and turn it off. In there is also the speak screen where you can have it read to you without VoiceOver. The hints/explanations are just after each item there in settings.

Re: What is the expand speaking bar and how do I disable it?

2019-12-24 Thread Devin Prater
Expand it, and then double-tap "stop." That is from the "speak screen" feature. Sent from my iPhone > On Dec 24, 2019, at 5:42 AM, Johnna wrote: > > Hello all, since updating to the latest iOS software, when I am checking my > email particularly. I keep seeing something that says expand speak

What is the expand speaking bar and how do I disable it?

2019-12-24 Thread Johnna
Hello all, since updating to the latest iOS software, when I am checking my email particularly. I keep seeing something that says expand speaking bar. And it interferes with my scrolling through and reading my email. How do I get rid of this speaking bar? Johnna Simmons -- The following infor

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2019-12-24 Thread Arnold Schmidt
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