All I know is that when I double tapped on confirm ride repeatedly, nothing
happened. When I gave my phone to a friend, he said there was a box that had to
be checked. Admittedly maybe he was thinking of the button.. so, has anyone had
trouble with confirming the ride so that you get the message
sk.
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
>> On Oct 18, 2020, at 11:24 AM, Kathy Brandt wrote:
>>
>> I can’t believe no one has: I asked a question regarding if anyone has had
>> trouble with confirming that they are wearing a mask before you will be
>> allowed to r
I can’t believe no one has: I asked a question regarding if anyone has had
trouble with confirming that they are wearing a mask before you will be allowed
to ride, but haven’t heard anything.
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where there doesn’t seem to be an edit box to write to and then switch the
rating like I did when a similar change happened in a much earlier upd
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> On Oct 3, 2020, at 11:49 PM, Caitlyn Furness
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>
> I think you can do it through the Alexa app on the iphone..
>
> Cait
>
>
>> On Oct 3, 2020, at 10:37 PM, kitty hevener wrote:
>>
>> Marie, how did u get amazon music on your I phone? I have
Seems to have gotten more difficult: in short, I could only do so just before
he arrived, instead of being in a better position to leave a message explaining
particular circumstances like I like to do. Is this true for the rest of you?
Thanks. Before that very brief window I was allowed, I could
>From my experience, they won’t get anything, prescription or not, from the
>pharmacy: I was told that they have to check out from pharmacy separately from
>the rest of the order; they won’t do that.
Otherwise, even though it takes a little more time, I go through the steps for
picking a specif
For a few updates now, when I am in a message thread, and want to delete an
individual message, I can’t use the flick up and double tap once I find trash
because it just doesn’t work as it did in iOS 12. I know about finding the
first instance of more actions which makes the special sound and yo
On an older device from the main screen where I saw the item I could flick up
on it and one would be added to the cart, or, if I wanted to read the details
by double tapping on the item and then adding to cart, I did a double tap and
hold, and I got the message saying added to cart.
On Aug 22
she won’t be able to dictate emails.
> On Aug 3, 2020, at 8:58 AM, Richard Turner
> wrote:
>
> I do not have personal experience with the Fire tablet, but I have heard
> very good things about them. Other than they run on Android, which is not my
> favorite but is better than it used to be
Did you try disabling both Siri and dictation then we enabling after turning
off and restarting the phone?
> On Jun 26, 2020, at 10:40 AM, rhs via VIPhone
> wrote:
>
>
> Hi,
>
> Siri has stopped talking. For example, when I ask Siri to spell a word I get
> silence. I can use finger ge
I’m concerned over what they are proposing for app organization: I want to
organize my apps the way I think they should be organized, rather than how they
think they should be. I skip page one with the widgets, meaning the rest of my
apps are on three pages, arranged in folders, with the apps in
I discovered that when I can’t immediately find the cart, that if I start on
the lower right hand corner and flip backwards, I come across what I think says
card info, that you double tap on, flick through, and then you can check out.
I’d have to set up a fake order in order to tell you exactly
Asking again: does anyone have to sign in each time they open the app? Friends
of mine don’t have to, and I can’t figure out why they don’t have to when I do.
Thank you.
> On May 22, 2020, at 6:27 PM, Lois Butterfield
> wrote:
>
> Hi all,
>
> Is the door dash app broken? I have used it in t
https://techcrunch.com/2020/05/20/covid-19-exposure-notification-settings-begin-to-go-live-for-ios-users-with-new-update/
COVID-19 exposure notification settings begin to go live for iOS users with new
update
Darrell Etherington
@etherington/ 10:01 am PDT • May 20, 2020
Apple has released
Does the contact tracing kick in whether or not you enable it? For it to work I
suppose Bluetooth would have to be turned on. That uses up battery power, so I
don’t unless it’s absolutely necessary. So, I hope we’re not talking about
something that just takes over what I choose to do with my dev
This wasn’t necessarily a big deal until one of my friends told me she never
has to sign in every time she uses it. I have it on more than one device. I
don’t see anything in account settings on the web or The app to change. I
uninstalled the app, rebooted the phone, reinstalled, signed back in,
In the Camera app when you flick to record video after setting camera mode to
video, I turn speech off, then double tap, which starts the recording, and
double tap again when I’m done, then turn speech back on again with three
finger double tap; that illiminates voice during recording.
On May
> have ordered successfully. The app has its quirks: you have to wait a few
> seconds until it is completely up, then go to the bottom of the screen where
> it may say “can’t connect to the network, retry“. If you can’t find that
> line, then, unfortunately, you have to swipe up with three finge
When doing this, you have to make sure that Bluetooth on both devices is on,
and, at least initially, you have to position the back camera of your new phone
just so in relation to the front of the old phone so that the process gets
started. This at least was my experience last time with iPods. Y
>>
>> It’s the lightning port earr phones.
>>
>>
>> Sent from Kimber's iPhone
>> The happy ending still beckons, and it is in the hope of grasping it that we
>> go on.—Annie Proulx
>>
>>
>>
>> On Apr 21, 2020, at 12:28 PM, K
In other words, is it a regular headphone jack, or the lightning port earphones?
Congrats to others on their purchase. I am upgrading from the iPhone 5s.
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I had some questions, so ordered over the phone. Later got email from Apple
(Checked to make sure it was legitimate from the address field) saying order
couldn’t be processed until approved AT&T’s sales and conditions agreement: the
go here link continuously brought up page saying server not fou
Is it set up so that your old phone automatically is deactivated, or do you
have to go to the store and do it? The nearest AT&T stores are closed. Would
it be that for a time both phones are active until the old one is deactivated?
Just not sure what to expect, as I always went to the Apple sto
When this happens I do a three finger swipe up from the status bar to get to
the control center, then flick to the right with one finger until you reach
play pause, which is after media controls.
> On Apr 14, 2020, at 8:57 PM, Sieghard Weitzel wrote:
>
> And to add to Richard's observations, i
I have only seen it when it comes up during the end of placing an order, when
you are invited to send referral.
On Mar 20, 2020, at 6:32 AM, Tom Rash wrote:
Where do you find the share link within the Instacart app to share with friends
to get the discount for first time-new users.
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Since I couldn’t figure it out, I had to hijack one of the other fields where I
could write, and then call the restaurant to find out if the delivery person
was even there. One other time when this happened I had come across a phone
number for Uber eats, but couldn’t get to it somehow this time.
At least for credit card purposes, what I want to do is completely accessible
with Safari on my phone. I haven’t tried the app.
> On Feb 19, 2020, at 10:51 AM, Peter Logan wrote:
>
> If anyone has used the Barclays app lately for credit cards, they most likely
> have experienced it locking u
in a timely manner?
>
>> On Tuesday, February 11, 2020 at 8:00:41 AM UTC-5, Kathy Brandt wrote:
>> There are some automated processes you can use for disputing through the
>> app, but if your issue doesn’t fit into their categories, it’s not easy,
>> particularly wit
There are some automated processes you can use for disputing through the app,
but if your issue doesn’t fit into their categories, it’s not easy,
particularly with Lyft, where it can be hit and miss operating the combo boxes,
finding any place at all where you can write, and fulfilling the capch
Geek squad set up my brother printer ending in 850DW. When the computer is on,
from my device I can print from a website or email by selecting my printer and
printer options. However, when my computer isn’t on, sometimes in options it
says use recently used printers, but sometimes it won’t bring
You can trim videos in the photos app, then combine in iMovie.
On Jan 16, 2020, at 10:34 AM, Cory Jackson wrote:
Hello,
I am searching for an application that will allow me to edit videos on my
iPhone. The big thing that I need to be able to do is trim videos and possibly
merge two videos toge
Welcome, and. The only thing I didn’t find easy about using Voice Memos to
record minutes was being able to control the rate of rewind when going over a
specific part; otherwise, I liked it, but went back to using an Olympus
recorder for minutes.
> On Dec 28, 2019, at 1:29 PM, Anne West wrote:
Richard kindly helped me with this a few days ago. You double tap and hold on
next keyboard, then gradually slide up or down and lift up when you hear the
keyboard you want. I sent apple a screen recording done on both my iOS 12 and
iOS 13 iPods showing how easy it was when you could just double
I’m getting along with the Mail app well enough, even if focus shifts in a
thread. Just curious though: if I flick up to trash in the rotor and double tap
on it, the message just stays there. Should that be the case? I have just been
double tapping on delete at the bottom and going from there, I
se of stress for those who are in touch with it."
> -- from The Search for Signs of Intelligent Life in the Universe, by Jane
> Wagner
>
>
>>> On Dec 3, 2019, at 6:46 PM, Kathy Brandt wrote:
>>>
>> On my iOS 12 devices, Richard, I didn’t see the block op
is my conclusion.
> HTH,
>
>
>
>
> Richard
> "Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with it."
> -- from The Search for Signs of Intelligent Life in the Universe, by Jane
> Wagner
>
>
>> On Dec 3, 2019, at 6:46 PM, Kathy Brandt wr
On my iOS 12 devices, Richard, I didn’t see the block option, but it appeared
under iOS 13. I blocked a few people whose items I’m not interested in who I
get duplicate messages from since they post to two lists I am on. They seem to
be blocked on my iOS 13 device, but not on the others. I looke
I couldn’t get this to work on an iOS 12 device; is it only doable with iOS 13?
> On Dec 2, 2019, at 4:30 PM, Mary Otten wrote:
>
> Hi Richard,
> Thanks for that. It worked. And no, I didn’t block you. Smile. You are one of
> the most helpful people on any of the lists I am on!
> Any idea what
ve long and prosper
>
>
> Check out my web site at: www.turner42.com
>
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com On Behalf Of Kathy
> Brandt
> Sent: Saturday, November 30, 2019 11:19 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: About trimming videos in the photos app
>
leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with it."
> -- from The Search for Signs of Intelligent Life in the Universe, by Jane
> Wagner
>
>
>> On Nov 30, 2019, at 10:39 AM, Kathy Brandt wrote:
>>
>> … A more exotic issue as compared to problems more
… A more exotic issue as compared to problems more immediately pressing to most
people, but in case of interest, I wanted to see what the differences would be,
since I gathered there had been changes in how to handle photos and videos: I
discovered that, for example, if you do raw footage in the
at: www.turner42.com
>
> -Original Message-----
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com On Behalf Of Kathy
> Brandt
> Sent: Saturday, November 30, 2019 9:46 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Hi, how to efficiently switch between keyboards?
>
> Previously I was
ility.
>
>
> Richard
>
> 🖖 Live long and prosper
>
>
> Check out my web site at: www.turner42.com
>
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com On Behalf Of Kathy
> Brandt
> Sent: Saturday, November 30, 2019 9:38 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroup
Previously I was just able to double tap on next keyboard and it would cycle me
through the different ones as I kept double tapping next keyboard. Now,
however, since switching to iOS 13, it seems to only go between English and
emoji, even though I have one other keyboard, my Russian one. Grante
nths now sad to say.
> Guess it's time to report it to the Seeing AI folk again?
> Robin
>
>
> -Original Message- From: Kathy Brandt
> Sent: Saturday, November 30, 2019 10:14 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Seeing AI and USPS informed delivery
I finally updated to iOS 13 yesterday. Today I tried sharing an image in the
email from USPS informed delivery with seeing AI: I just got the continual
message “processing“ and was unable to close or cancel without completely
closing the mail app and reopening. Has anyone else experienced this o
The problem is solved. I logged in on my friends phone using my password and it
worked, so we changed his and everything is good.
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Yes, that’s the same response I got when reporting the mail app issues. I
haven’t actually updated, but wanted to lend my support,, since I want to see
this resolved.
> On Nov 21, 2019, at 4:40 PM, Gordon wrote:
>
> Yes that's a generic response I've seen copied and pasted many times by
> App
I just placed my second Uber eats order, spurred on by wanting to hopefully
answer your question: I ran into your situation when attempting an order from
red lobster. When I went to another restaurant, the add to cart button was
present in the bottom right corner. Therefore, I conclude that when
For resetting network settings, it was my understanding that your wallpaper
choice is deleted, not that this would concern a lot of us, only, when I reset
network settings, I change my wallpaper, because I want to make sure that it is
still wallpapers versus the dynamic wallpaper, which uses mor
So, are you saying we can still do this in iOS 13? Thanks.
> On Oct 28, 2019, at 8:48 PM, Richard Turner
> wrote:
>
>
> I'm not sure how you used to cut, copy, or paste, but I use the Text
> Selection item on the rotor, which you have to add under VoiceOver rotor
> settings.
> After selecti
I haven’t updated to 13 yet, reading this latest, where it mentions there is no
longer context menu in the rotor, does this mean that when you do the single
finger triple tap, that then that brings up the lines, words, or characters,
for when you want to copy and paste?
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> Subject: Re: Battery Draining Fast and Charging Slowly
>
>
>
> Wayne
How exactly do you check battery health? When I go into battery, I see that I
can check activity for the past 24 hours or the past 10 days, and I can read
the percentage of battery used by each app, but not the specific figure that
says what my battery capacity is. The last time I checked it was
I just heard from one of their developers, who apologize for the inconvenience,
and said that the problem should be fixed. I went back to my USPS informed
delivery message for today and scanned the photos; it worked!
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>>
>> Richard
>>
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> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com On Behalf Of Kathy
> Brandt
> Sent: Monday, October 7, 2019 6:39 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Seeing AI not processing photographs
>
>
>
>> On Oct 7, 2019, at 9:26 AM, R
rying to scan a photo with seeing ai today as well
> the toanes just whent on and on and on and nothing happened. From Mich.
>
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com On Behalf Of Kathy
> Brandt
> Sent: October 7, 2019 9:05 AM
> To: viphone@googlegro
The situation didn’t improve when I got home, so, it wasn’t the network’s
fault. I have written Microsoft. My iPod six GEN and iPhone 5s won’t go beyond
iOS 12.4.2. Removing and reinstalling the app didn’t help. Microsoft hasn’t
answered. Thankfully the short text feature still works. I haven’t
The short text channel still works OK, but yesterday on my 5S and one of my
iPods I updated to 12.4.2, since that is the highest my particular devices will
take, and today, while I am away and on perhaps a slow network, when I
attempted to share a scan from USPS informed delivery, I just got end
. FYI, I’m running iOS
13.1.2, on an iPhone 11 and my Twitter app is up to date.
Sent from my iPhone
> On Oct 4, 2019, at 12:32 AM, Kathy Brandt wrote:
>
> I go to see latest tweets, and flick from one tweet to the next. At the
> bottom of the screen, just above compose tweet,
how to reproduce this
> problem?
>
> Thank you,
>
> Mark
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of
> Kathy Brandt
> Sent: Thursday, October 03, 2019 7:49 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
&g
Past updates had restored the show more tweets button, but with this latest,
it’s gone again. After reading what it allows you to, there is a new tweets
button, but that puts you back at the top. I know probably they are thinking
people want to know what’s happening right then, but it should be
This is what Apple accessibility wrote:
Hello,
Thank you for your email. We've not had other reports of this and currently are
unable to reproduce this. As we are unable to provide in depth troubleshooting
or software configuration at this address our best suggestion would be to
contact AppleCar
Usually this happens at the beginning of the process, but sometimes, if I can’t
get the edit field to work, I raise the page up and fill in what I can, going
backwards,, or, if nothing fills in, I leave Safari, close it out of the app
switcher, and then bring it up again, which lets me then fill
More often it seems, after filling in some edit fields, I have to go slightly
below and double tap on a done button before proceeding.
On Sep 29, 2019, at 1:30 PM, Kay Malmquist wrote:
I've never had to do that before. To be quite honest, I don't know how to hide
the keyboard. Why would this
On Sep 21, 2019, at 3:43 PM, Feliciano Godoy wrote:
Hi all,
Earlier this month, this topic was discussed. Below is information on optimize
battery charging from Apple.
With iOS 13, your iPhone learns from your daily charging habits to improve the
lifespan of your battery.
A battery’s lifespa
How about copying and pasting text? I do that between male messages sometimes,
and wouldn’t like doing without this.
> On Sep 20, 2019, at 4:20 PM, Gerardo Corripio wrote:
>
> I restarted the phone after the iOS13 update had finished downloading, when
> an error that it couldn’t install, dou
You can also listen on apple.com on your phone.
On Aug 30, 2019, at 12:28 PM, Wayne Merritt wrote:
I've made a habit of listening to TWIT for their coverage during these
events. Though they talk over the feed, I do like their snarky
comments and insightful commentary during the event. Folks ca
This was an accident; I’ve been able to duplicate this: I go to library, double
tap on saved stations, flick to where it makes the third click sound, since
there is no text, double tap on that place, (play lists is right underneath
it), and there was my whole list of favorite stations.
--
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Really hope they fix soon! Their support page was interesting, in that there
was provision to submit a file or attachment, but could only write in the
description field, which I thought initially would have been like the subject
field, but whatever. I also submitted rating and review to the App
I never even thought to try to dictate an email address, let aloan passwords,
because generally you have no way to check whether a password is accurate, plus
with email so much could be messed up that you would just have to go back and
correct it anyway, meaning you are better off just using the
I am dismayed at what’s happening with it: I just want to be able to read my
tweets for as long as I want to without getting prompted every minute it seems
about “see what’s live“. I liked that after I read a certain amount of tweets,
that I could hit new tweets for as many times as I wanted unt
I believe what I have done in this instance is to open the entire conversation,
go to the message I wanna delete, rotor to where it says more, and towards the
bottom of the screen there should be choices, one of which is to delete.
> On Jul 23, 2019, at 9:41 PM, Edward Przybylek
> wrote:
>
>
It’s clunky, have to weed through a lot to get from one restaurant to the next,
but as of a few weeks ago, could still use it.
Overall think I’d prefer DoorDash. My main complaint with all of these is that
you have to pick a salad, say, even if you don’t want one, without any place to
put that
After inputting your destination and double tapping on search, your choices
come up. You double tap on the one you want, you get a list of your different
options. You double tap on the one you want, like Uber eggs, double tap on the
bottom right corner where it says confirm Uber X. Ven you are a
something before that?
>
> It actually works really well, and you can review it on the screen that says
> request ride.
>
> Thanks for helping!
>
> Debby
>
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of
> Kathy Brandt
> Sent: Monday,
You can put all your stops in before selecting lift and confirming pick up.
Where I get messed up on sometimes is getting them in the right order. The
other day, even though my destination read where I wanted they were reversed;
luckily the driver took me to where I intended as the first stop. T
I respect that of course this is all very subjective, what people like and
don’t. I’d say that Alex sounding like Darth Vader is a bit of an exaggeration,
and a pickiuny Bing to be complaining about. I myself would prefer some of the
pronunciations going back to where they used to be before this
g. The knack
> lies in learning how to throw yourself at the ground and miss." --Douglas
> Adams, from Life, The Universe and Everything, p.59
>
> The most common way people give up their power is by thinking they don't have
> any." -- Alice Walker
>
>
&
I cannot access a lot of it on my own, which the developer is blaming on that I
have an iPod six GEN and an iPhone 5s, saying that though I am on the most
recent updates, they are older devices. They claim other blind users are
functioning with the app just fine, but various buttons for me don’t
Sent from Mail for
> Windows 10
>
> From: Kathy Brandt
> Sent: Tuesday, June 4, 2019 7:41 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Uber adding “near” in pick-up address
>
> This h
This has happened with three trips now. In my last, it looked like the pick up
address would be just the address, but then when it came time to confirm the
pick up address, it gave the street number, then saying near the actual place I
was at. I felt compelled to text The driver to say that I wa
The way voiceover pronounces different words has changed, not enough to be
really annoying, but enough to be noticed, like in the tabs under the messages,
reply, minimize as in minimize draft, and some last names of people that used
to be said correctly, but which are slightly different now. I d
You will notice a definite difference from the five. Enjoy! I have a 6th gen,
which has a speed difference from my fifth.
> On May 29, 2019, at 9:38 AM, Russ Kiehne wrote:
>
> I'm thinking about getting one. I have the 5th generation ipod touch.
>
> -Original Message- From: 'Maria Rey
The people at their toll-free number say this is possible, but I don’t see any
way for us to do it. Has anyone else ever tried? Thank you. I was able to add
to the cart today, so it must’ve been that it won’t let you win places are
closed.
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I don’t know if it was because it was after hours (I wanted to schedule in
advance), but I couldn’t add items to cart. I wanted to take advantage of a
promotion that also pertained to Uber, and had never used the app previously
except to look at what was available. I tried two different restaura
I most definitely am! I don’t want to be restricted to the confines of a plan
for which any unused portion might not roll over, plus, since I’m not doing
outdoor travel, be my eyes serves my needs quite well.
> On Apr 28, 2019, at 5:53 PM, Rich DeSteno wrote:
>
> Yes, Be My Eyes is bigger and
I get the same error, using Safari on my iPod.
> On Apr 7, 2019, at 2:56 PM, Richard Turner
> wrote:
>
>
> what browser were you using
> That is the link Russ Keen had sent out and it worked for me with Safari on
> my iPhone and Firefox on my computer.
> Richard
>
>
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An Apple accessibility rep had me try this in hopes of solving a problem of
iMessage showing supposed messages that actually weren’t there, which never got
solved apart from Mike turning off badges in notifications, since I don’t feel
like restoring the operating system for fear this could happe
I’d get another one :-) it’s bad, because I have them starting from the fourth
GEN, which occasionally I read from, or do other things with that can’t on the
newer devices. I had two go in when, through FaceTime, a friend and I were
trying to get a feature of an app to work. I like having one to
Double tap on the photo you want to delete, flick to the right until it says
delete, double tap on that, then in the tabs on the bottom, double tap on
albums, then go through the albums, double tap on the delete album, double tap
on the select button, and then double tap on delete all, which wil
Judy
>
>
>
>
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com On Behalf Of Kathy
> Brandt
> Sent: Sunday, March 03, 2019 11:28 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: help with grubhub
>
> In 2013 the app was much better when I had been working with the develop
In 2013 the app was much better when I had been working with the developer, but
then the company switched developers, got with Seamless, and my messages were
ignored.
> On Mar 3, 2019, at 9:08 AM, Mama Peach wrote:
>
> The Grub Hug website is a true nightmare as well.
>
> From: 'Brian Fischl
A friend of mine has been recently diagnosed, and she’s having trouble testing
in the usual way. Has anyone had luck using voiceover with the app I have heard
about that you wear a patch for 14 days and the app gets the results through it?
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Also, especially if it was this way on the other phone, did you turn off auto
correct and predictive text?
On Dec 10, 2018, at 11:31 AM, Sieghard Weitzel wrote:
While there are of course some differences between an iPhone 6 and 7 I would
say they are mostly in processor speed and camera, there
Did they fix the bug in reviewing recent calls where it was saying primary
label?
On Dec 5, 2018, at 1:07 PM, Sieghard Weitzel wrote:
iOS 12.1.1 Download Released: iPhone XR Gets Haptic Touch Feature, FaceTime
Camera Flip Icon Returns
Apple has just released iOS 12.1.1 for download, availabl
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