RE: Should resetting the iPhone in IOS 6 cause loss of Voiceover

2012-10-13 Thread Joney
It doesn't happen all the time, however, it has happened to me from time to time. Hook it to your computer, click configure universal access, check the Voice Over spot, click okay and it will reset, turning Voice Over on again.. Sometimes, you have to reset your choices in Voice Over, (can be a re

Re: Should resetting the iPhone in IOS 6 cause loss of Voiceover

2012-10-13 Thread paras shah
o: viphone@googlegroups.com > Subject: Re: Should resetting the iPhone in IOS 6 cause loss of VoiceOver > > Yes, as soon as I confirm this is the cause. > > David Chittenden, MSc, MRCAA > Email: dchitten...@gmail.com > Mobile: +64 21 2288 288 > Sent from my iPhone > >

Re: Should resetting the iPhone in IOS 6 cause loss of Voiceover

2012-10-13 Thread Sandy Tomkins
then > restarted it and had voiceover, it is a $s running IOS 6. > > > -Original Message- > From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf > Of David Chittenden > Sent: Tuesday, October 09, 2012 1:25 PM > To: viphone@googlegroups.com >

RE: Should resetting the iPhone in IOS 6 cause loss of Voiceover

2012-10-12 Thread Rose Combs
: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Should resetting the iPhone in IOS 6 cause loss of VoiceOver Yes, as soon as I confirm this is the cause. David Chittenden, MSc, MRCAA Email: dchitten...@gmail.com Mobile: +64 21 2288 288 Sent from my iPhone On 10/10/2012, at 5:56, Scott Howell wrote

Re: Should resetting the iPhone in IOS 6 cause loss of VoiceOver

2012-10-10 Thread reggie.alvar...@gmail.com
To the last trill? Does this do the same thing as holding until turn off completely? Reggie and Brooks On Oct 8, 2012, at 9:42 PM, "Kathy Blackburn" wrote: I wrote to accessibil...@apple.com and was told that the hard re-set, holding down the home and sleep/wake buttons at the same time, do

Re: Should resetting the iPhone in IOS 6 cause loss of VoiceOver

2012-10-10 Thread reggie.alvar...@gmail.com
I had not rebooted for almost three weeks when it happened to me. I also had nothing attached to the phone. Reggie and Brooks On Oct 9, 2012, at 7:27 AM, Scott Howell wrote: David, I have to admit that I have not used this reboot procedure more than maybe a couple of times, yet I have no

Re: Should resetting the iPhone in IOS 6 cause loss of VoiceOver

2012-10-10 Thread reggie.alvar...@gmail.com
groups.com] On Behalf > Of Kristeen Hughes > Sent: Tuesday, October 09, 2012 6:32 AM > To: viphone@googlegroups.com > Subject: Re: Should resetting the iPhone in IOS 6 cause loss of VoiceOver > > I have lost VO only once by using this reset, and that was because I got > distracted a

Re: Should resetting the iPhone in IOS 6 cause loss of VoiceOver

2012-10-10 Thread reggie.alvar...@gmail.com
I sent a message to Apple and they wrote back telling me, in effect, don't use home and power button to reboot the phone. I only did this when I could not get things straightened out. I think more people need to report this unless they have done this on purpose. Reggie and Brooks On Oct 9

Re: Should resetting the iPhone in IOS 6 cause loss of VoiceOver

2012-10-09 Thread David Chittenden
ghes >> Sent: Tuesday, October 09, 2012 6:32 AM >> To: viphone@googlegroups.com >> Subject: Re: Should resetting the iPhone in IOS 6 cause loss of VoiceOver >> >> I have lost VO only once by using this reset, and that was because I got >> distracted and ended up holding

Re: Should resetting the iPhone in IOS 6 cause loss of VoiceOver

2012-10-09 Thread David Chittenden
Yes, I was attempting to create the reported problem. Now that I have, I will re upgrade my iPhone 5 to reset it to factory values. David Chittenden, MSc, MRCAA Email: dchitten...@gmail.com Mobile: +64 21 2288 288 Sent from my iPhone On 10/10/2012, at 10:59, Grant Hardy wrote: > David, > > T

Re: Should resetting the iPhone in IOS 6 cause loss of VoiceOver

2012-10-09 Thread Grant Hardy
David, That is very bizarre indeed and certainly shouldn't be happening by design. Sounds like a bug that should be reported to Apple accessibility. Do you ever lose VoiceOver when rebooting your phone normally? Also, not to get into a whole debate about resets and crashes again, but I don't know

Re: Should resetting the iPhone in IOS 6 cause loss of VoiceOver

2012-10-09 Thread Grant Hardy
the devices. Pressing the home key negates this > functionality. > > > -Original Message- > From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf > Of Kristeen Hughes > Sent: Tuesday, October 09, 2012 6:32 AM > To: viphone@googlegroups.com > Subject: Re

Re: Should resetting the iPhone in IOS 6 cause loss of VoiceOver

2012-10-09 Thread David Chittenden
Yes, as soon as I confirm this is the cause. David Chittenden, MSc, MRCAA Email: dchitten...@gmail.com Mobile: +64 21 2288 288 Sent from my iPhone On 10/10/2012, at 5:56, Scott Howell wrote: > David, > > The one thing you stated that caught my attention is regarding the Braille > display bein

Re: Should resetting the iPhone in IOS 6 cause loss of VoiceOver

2012-10-09 Thread Scott Howell
David, The one thing you stated that caught my attention is regarding the Braille display being connected. So, this problem does not occur provided the display is not connected? If so, that is something and certainly worth reporting to APple. On Oct 9, 2012, at 9:17 AM, David Chittenden wrote

RE: Should resetting the iPhone in IOS 6 cause loss of VoiceOver

2012-10-09 Thread Patti Johnson
phone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Should resetting the iPhone in IOS 6 cause loss of VoiceOver I have lost VO only once by using this reset, and that was because I got distracted and ended up holding it for about twenty seconds. I think there is a timing limit. However, with both the Ipad 3 and the iPhone 5, V

Re: Should resetting the iPhone in IOS 6 cause loss of VoiceOver

2012-10-09 Thread Kristeen Hughes
> functionality. > > > -Original Message- > From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf > Of Kristeen Hughes > Sent: Tuesday, October 09, 2012 6:32 AM > To: viphone@googlegroups.com > Subject: Re: Should resetting the iPhone in IOS

RE: Should resetting the iPhone in IOS 6 cause loss of VoiceOver

2012-10-09 Thread Jeff Bishop
, October 09, 2012 6:32 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Should resetting the iPhone in IOS 6 cause loss of VoiceOver I have lost VO only once by using this reset, and that was because I got distracted and ended up holding it for about twenty seconds. I think there is a timing limit. However

Re: Should resetting the iPhone in IOS 6 cause loss of VoiceOver

2012-10-09 Thread Kristeen Hughes
I have lost VO only once by using this reset, and that was because I got distracted and ended up holding it for about twenty seconds. I think there is a timing limit. However, with both the Ipad 3 and the iPhone 5, VO can be brought back with the tripple-click of the home key. I got an iPad 3 an

Re: Should resetting the iPhone in IOS 6 cause loss of VoiceOver

2012-10-09 Thread David Chittenden
Scott, I have not yet been able to figure out any patterns yet. I managed to make it lose VO again by having my braille display connected when I did the power home reboot. The most annoying thing is that the rotors are both set back to factory defaults each time VO is switched off. Also, triple

Re: Should resetting the iPhone in IOS 6 cause loss of VoiceOver

2012-10-09 Thread Scott Howell
David, I have to admit that I have not used this reboot procedure more than maybe a couple of times, yet I have not encountered this issue. So, is there any particular pattern to reproducing the problem? FOr example, rebooting repeatedly (within a period of time) such as maybe every five minute

Re: Should resetting the iPhone in IOS 6 cause loss of VoiceOver

2012-10-09 Thread David Chittenden
I have now lost VO one time using this technique out of seven times I have used the technique on my iPhone 5. In addition to losing VO, my braille display would not connect after I started VO with iTunes. Also, VO was set to factory defaults. I had to do another power home reboot before the brai

Re: Should resetting the iPhone in IOS 6 cause loss of VoiceOver

2012-10-09 Thread Scott Howell
I have to agree I have not lost VO as a result of using this reset technique. On Oct 9, 2012, at 12:05 AM, Katey Glass wrote: > I have used holding the power button and home button to reset the iPhone and > iPad many times and I havne't lost VO ever. Maybe reset is not the proper > phrase as

Re: Should resetting the iPhone in IOS 6 cause loss of VoiceOver

2012-10-08 Thread Grant Hardy
Hey Kathy, this definitely shouldn't be the case. Doing a reset in the manner you described simply forces the phone to reboot. It shouldn't reset any of your settings. To be safe though, I'd recommend popping into Settings/General/Accessibility/Tripple click home, and setting the tripple click hom

Re: Should resetting the iPhone in IOS 6 cause loss of VoiceOver

2012-10-08 Thread Katey Glass
I have used holding the power button and home button to reset the iPhone and iPad many times and I havne't lost VO ever. Maybe reset is not the proper phrase as we are not technically resetting any settings, but rather just clearing out memory "cobwebs" on the phone or pad. At any rate, I ha

Re: Should resetting the iPhone in IOS 6 cause loss of VoiceOver

2012-10-08 Thread Kathy Blackburn
I wrote to accessibil...@apple.com and was told that the hard re-set, holding down the home and sleep/wake buttons at the same time, does indeed result in loss of VoiceOver and does so by design. In order to get VoiceOver back, you must either get sighted help or connect the phone to a computer