Re: Newbie server Question

2005-03-29 Thread Stephen Hinton
ok chkconfig --list showed vncservers as 'on' iptables -L showed ACCEPT tcp -- anywhere anywhere state new tcp dpt:vnc-norm which is the name i gave to the port in /etc/services I did check that the name in services and the vncservers file match exactly. However, i still do not see a listenin

RE: Time Logs

2005-03-29 Thread Steve Bostedor
VNCScan is shareware. It's only $40. For the features and support that you get with VNCScan, you can't beat that price. -Original Message- From: Vince [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, March 29, 2005 7:36 PM To: Steve Bostedor; 'Erik Soderquist'; 'Dave 18388'; vnc-list@realvnc.co

Re: terminal access only (gray window)

2005-03-29 Thread Sean Kamath
[In a message on Tue, 29 Mar 2005 16:47:23 +0100, "James Weatherall" wrote:] >Damjam, > >As previously stated, this is a bug in Gnome that prevents multiple Gnome >sessions to co-exist on the same machine for the same user. If I recall correctly, it's a little worse than that. The Gnome people

RE: vnc server accessing DNS server?

2005-03-29 Thread James Weatherall
Joel, It is an absolute fact that VNC Server does *not* attempt to connect to a DNS server except in the case that it has been requested to make an outgoing connection to a listening viewer. Either the program you are using to detect these accesses is wrongly attributing them, or some aspect of

RE: vnc server accessing DNS server?

2005-03-29 Thread James Weatherall
Steve & Joel, The VNC Server's process is *not* called vncserver on Unix! It's called Xvnc. vncserver is just the front-end used to launch the Xvnc process. Regards, Wez @ RealVNC Ltd. > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Steve Bost

Re: TWO SERVERS

2005-03-29 Thread Steven Clark
Assuming the routing capabilities of the first server allow you to forward ports, all you need to do is forward port 5901 from the 1st server to the second server. Case 1: Port 5901 forwarded to 2nd server port 5901 a) VNC server (machine 2) listens on 5901 b) External VNC viewer species external

Re: vnc server accessing DNS server?

2005-03-29 Thread Dr. Joel M. Hoffman
>Makes sense. In reality, though, something like this is next to >impossible to troubleshoot after the fact. Is it reproducible? Yes. The Windows VNC server (running as a service) repeatedly tries to connect to a DNS server. My question is whether this should happen when no one is connected to

TWO SERVERS

2005-03-29 Thread Ing. Jorge A. Maldonado B.
Hi, I have two servers that I want to control remotely. The first one has the direct connection to the Internet and the second one connects through the first one using NAT. This means that only one server has a public IP, the other has an internal IP. Can I use VNC to connect to both servers? T

RE: vnc server accessing DNS server?

2005-03-29 Thread Steve Bostedor
>-Original Message- >From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Dr. Joel M. Hoffman >Sent: Tuesday, March 29, 2005 2:14 PM >To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >Cc: vnc-list@realvnc.com >Subject: Re: vnc server accessing DNS server? > >>I'm afraid that there is no such process as vn

Re: vnc server accessing DNS server?

2005-03-29 Thread Dr. Joel M. Hoffman
>I'm afraid that there is no such process as vncserver - are you sure you are >using a standard VNC release? I probably have the name wrong. (I usually use Linux.) It might have been winvnc, or something. It was, without doubt, the vnc server under Windows. -Joel __

RE: vnc server accessing DNS server?

2005-03-29 Thread Steve Bostedor
What operating system are you running? It is called vncserver on *NIX. vncserver [:display#] [-name desktop-name] [-geometry widthxheight] [-depth depth] [-pixelformat format] [Xvnc-options...] vncserver -kill :display# >-Original Message- >From: [EMAIL PROTE

RE: Time Logs

2005-03-29 Thread Steve Bostedor
The next version of VNCScan due out within a week will have this exact feature. It is in the Computer Properties window. It has a tab that shows you the date, time, logged in user, and duration of every terminal server and vnc connection made from within VNCScan. It also has a tab for service

RE: Question

2005-03-29 Thread Singh, Harjit \(Mission Systems\)
James, Correct me if I am wrong. I am assuming first an encrypted session is setup using assymetric keys followed by server authentication and windows authentication. Once all the authentications are performed, it results in secured data across the link. The server authentication for ent

RE: terminal access only (gray window)

2005-03-29 Thread John Aldrich
I should mention that this behavior is based solely on my personal experience. Others have said that KDE has this problem as well, so I don't feel too uncomfortable about that part... it's the part about how it works fine for the new session that is based on my personal experience. :-) -Origin

RE: Question

2005-03-29 Thread James Weatherall
Harjit, The public/private key exchange *is* the server authentication stage, and is used as the bootstrap for the secure encrypted session. Please refer to my previous replies to your mailing list messages regarding the difference between server authentication, and Windows Authentication. Yes,

RE: vnc server accessing DNS server?

2005-03-29 Thread James Weatherall
Joel, I'm afraid that there is no such process as vncserver - are you sure you are using a standard VNC release? Which platform are you running VNC Server on? Regards, Wez @ RealVNC Ltd. > -Original Message- > From: Dr. Joel M. Hoffman [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: 29 March 2005

RE: Free version 4.1.1 and error 10050

2005-03-29 Thread James Weatherall
Kristopher, The actual error message cannot have been "Unable to connect to host (10050)", I'm afraid. Are you sure it wasn't: unable to connect to host: A socket operation encountered a dead network. (10050) Are there any other services running on the server computer to which you *can* connect

VNC and IE

2005-03-29 Thread Michael Sivadon
Hi All, Here's my setup. Work PC is WIN200K on LAN, Home PC WINXP on DSL I use a SSL VPN connection from home to dial-in to work. Once in I use VNC to access my work PC. I can run just about everything on my work PC and control from my home EXCEPT Internet Explorer. I launch IE on my work PC A

RE: terminal access only (gray window)

2005-03-29 Thread John Aldrich
KDE also has this problem. You might try KDE for your VNC user session instead of Gnome, or some other window manager. Actually, KDE handles it a bit more gracefully... the only problem is that you pretty much will be forced to log out of everything and back in once you're back at the local console

RE: Newbie server Question

2005-03-29 Thread Collins, Kevin (MindWorks) [Contractor]
There is no direct relationship between /etc/services and what services are running (or listening). Try running: # chkconfig --list The last bit of info will show all the services xinetd is controlling and the status of each. Also, do you have any firewall configured? Try running: # ipchains -L

Re: vnc server accessing DNS server?

2005-03-29 Thread Dr. Joel M. Hoffman
>What do you mean by "VNC Server was accessing a DNS port"? What makes you >think that VNC Server is doing this? Symantec's Internet-monitor program issued a warning that process vncserver was trying to acces the DNS port on my DNS server. (The warning gave the IP address of the DNS server.) I

RE: Question

2005-03-29 Thread Singh, Harjit \(Mission Systems\)
James, In the email you sent, when does the process of server authentication take place. If server authentication takes place first, is that process encrypted? I am assuming that private/public key mechanism takes place in first place before even server authentication takes place. How is s

RE: vnc server accessing DNS server?

2005-03-29 Thread James Weatherall
Joel, What do you mean by "VNC Server was accessing a DNS port"? What makes you think that VNC Server is doing this? Regards, Wez @ RealVNC Ltd. > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Dr. Joel M. Hoffman > Sent: 29 March 2005 15:59 >

RE: Question

2005-03-29 Thread James Weatherall
Harjit, VNC Enterprise Edition's user authentication phase is secure because it takes place only after a secure (encrypted, tamper-proof, etc) connection has been established between viewer and server. If session encryption is not required then it is disabled immediately that the authentication p

RE: Free version 4.1.1 and error 10050

2005-03-29 Thread James Weatherall
Kristopher, Yes, you will get the same problem with all three because the error message is indicating that you do not have a functioning TCP/IP network between the viewer and server computers. Wez @ RealVNC Ltd. > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]

RE: terminal access only (gray window)

2005-03-29 Thread James Weatherall
Damjam, As previously stated, this is a bug in Gnome that prevents multiple Gnome sessions to co-exist on the same machine for the same user. Regards, Wez @ RealVNC Ltd. > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Damjan > Sent: 29 March 200

vnc server accessing DNS server?

2005-03-29 Thread Dr. Joel M. Hoffman
I just installed internet-monitoring s/w on a Windows computer as part of ridding it of a virus, and I saw the the service-level vnc server was accessing a DNS port, even when no one was supposed to be connected. Is this normal? Why would vncserver need to access DNS? Thanks. -Joel Hoffman ([EM

RE: Free version 4.1.1 and error 10050

2005-03-29 Thread Kristopher Ting
To update you: I uninstalled 4.1.1 and installed 4.0 - Same error message. I uninstalled 4.0 and installed 3.3.3 - Got error stating the server could not be found. Thanks, Kris -Original Message- From: James Weatherall [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, March 28, 2005 5:40 PM To:

Question

2005-03-29 Thread Singh, Harjit \(Mission Systems\)
I am new to RealVNC and performing search on it particularly with respect to security issues. I will appreciate if someone could explain the process of communication sequentially between RealVNC viewer and RealVNC server. The expalnation should start from beginning when VNC viewer want to commu

terminal access only (gray window)

2005-03-29 Thread Damjan
Hi there, I have similar problem to one described in [2002-11-15] "gnome-session:you're already running a session manager" Red Hat 8 I'm using Linux Slackware for vncserver and WinXP as viewer. I changed xstartup file so it looks like: --- #!/bin/sh [ -r $HOME/.Xresource

RE: Free version 4.1.1 and error 10050

2005-03-29 Thread Kristopher Ting
Thanks for the reply, However, other than trying to connect to the VNC server, every other network connection to any other resource from these problem workstations is as it should be. We simply use standard TCP/IP, no frills. I am thinking about installing an older version just for diagnostic pu

RE: Time Logs

2005-03-29 Thread Erik Soderquist
please provide more detail as to the clients' and servers' setups. writing a custom unix script to do that for vncserver launched by xinetd would be useless in a windows only environment... -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Dave 18388 Sent: T

RE: Multiple VNC connections to Windows 2003 Server Terminal Services

2005-03-29 Thread Erik Soderquist
if you are looking for VNC to initiate new login sessions as it can be made to do in unix, I think you will be out of luck. if you are looking to be able to use VNC for remote control of user's terminal services sessions, I'm doing that with the 3.3.7 release. the service controls the console on d

RE: Connection Refused - 10061 - Can anyone provide additional help?

2005-03-29 Thread Erik Soderquist
the connection refused message tells me that: 1.) there is no firewall blocking port 5900, a firewall would silently drop the packets. 2.) the VNC server is not listening, most likely not started. another possibility comes up if your host is behind a NAT router. while technically not a firewall,

RE: Multiple IP address

2005-03-29 Thread Tristan Leask
Ah, that sounds good. I hope you guys do manage to get it implemented. Thanks in advance, Tristan -Original Message- From: James Weatherall [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 29 March 2005 11:30 To: Tristan Leask; 'Angelo Sarto' Cc: vnc-list@realvnc.com Subject: RE: Multiple IP address T

RE: Multiple IP address

2005-03-29 Thread James Weatherall
Tristan, Actually, I think it's just the way that the network socket interface is specified. Intuitively, it would seem that if one process says "listen on this interface" and another just says "listen" then the second process should get all the remaining interfaces, but that could easily lead to

RE: Multiple IP address

2005-03-29 Thread Tristan Leask
Thanks for the reply. I take it this is an issue with the Windows IP stack then. Cheers Tristan -Original Message- From: James Weatherall [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 29 March 2005 10:43 To: Tristan Leask; 'Angelo Sarto' Cc: vnc-list@realvnc.com Subject: RE: Multiple IP address Tri

RE: Multiple IP address

2005-03-29 Thread James Weatherall
Tristan, At present, VNC Server does not "bind" to any IP addresses at all. It simply tries to open a listening socket on the specified port. So there's no sense in which VNC Server "stops trying" - it simply gets told by the stack that it can't listen on the port and that's that... Regards, W

RE: Multiple IP address

2005-03-29 Thread Tristan Leask
Hi, The http server is only binding to the one ip address, however when vncviewer is started listen mode on port 80 it then displays the error saying that it cannot bind to port 80 as its already in use. There is nothing to stop if from binding to the second IP address of the computer as that is