Re: [VoiceOps] CLEC - STIR/SHAKEN

2019-08-16 Thread Mary Lou Carey
So it sounds to me like you just have to be a certified carrier to get a STIR/SHAKEN certificate. That means either a CLEC, Wireless, or Interconnected VOIP Carrier. The VOIP carriers that are not certified by the FCC as Interconnected VOIP carriers cannot be assigned an OCN. MARY LOU CAREY

Re: [VoiceOps] CLEC - STIR/SHAKEN

2019-08-16 Thread Calvin Ellison
As explained to me by TransNexus, the Certificate Authorities will most likely require an OCN. VoIP carriers with their own numbering resources already have their IPES category OCN. It's also possible they might only require a SPID. Regards, *Calvin Ellison* Senior Voice Operations Engineer

Re: [VoiceOps] AT Answering Misdials

2019-08-16 Thread Mark R Lindsey, ECG
Almost certainly, answering these misdials and listening is part of a robocalling detection platform. It’s a PSTN honeypot. On Fri, Aug 16, 2019 at 12:02 Mary Lou Carey wrote: > Interesting marketing tactic! Makes them appear helpful and accrues CABS > revenue. > > MARY LOU CAREY > BackUP

Re: [VoiceOps] AT Answering Misdials

2019-08-16 Thread Alex Balashov
On Fri, Aug 16, 2019 at 01:05:07PM -0400, Christopher Aloi wrote: > They could sell the service to the “similar businesses”. If you misdial > Home Depot and they connect it they could charge HD for the connection. Or > they could sell it to Lowe’s (Home Depot competitor) so if you misdial Home >

Re: [VoiceOps] AT Answering Misdials

2019-08-16 Thread Christopher Aloi
They could sell the service to the “similar businesses”. If you misdial Home Depot and they connect it they could charge HD for the connection. Or they could sell it to Lowe’s (Home Depot competitor) so if you misdial Home Depot, it goes to Lowe’s. --- Christopher Aloi cta...@gmail.com Sent from

Re: [VoiceOps] AT Answering Misdials

2019-08-16 Thread Alex Balashov
Most misdials are going to be coming from the LCA, simply because most calls come from the same LCA. So, I doubt it would attract much CABS revenue, and I don't really see an intra-LATA/reciprocal comp angle in 2019. So, I'm not sure what the point is other than perhaps some marketing

Re: [VoiceOps] AT Answering Misdials

2019-08-16 Thread Dovid Bender
was the message in band? I know in other countries (such as Cyprus) your not allowed to do that. On Fri, Aug 16, 2019 at 12:02 PM Mary Lou Carey wrote: > Interesting marketing tactic! Makes them appear helpful and accrues CABS > revenue. > > MARY LOU CAREY > BackUP Telecom Consulting > Office:

Re: [VoiceOps] AT Answering Misdials

2019-08-16 Thread Mary Lou Carey
Interesting marketing tactic! Makes them appear helpful and accrues CABS revenue. MARY LOU CAREY BackUP Telecom Consulting Office: 615-791-9969 Cell: 615-796- On 2019-08-16 10:29 AM, Matthew Yaklin wrote: I realize billing for that type of call is almost nothing now days... but wouldn't

Re: [VoiceOps] Connecting to Remote Tandems

2019-08-16 Thread Mary Lou Carey
It is a good alternative if you don't offer DSL, TLS, UNEs, etc but it's more cost effective to do it as an Interconnected VOIP carrier than as a CLEC if you go that route. MARY LOU CAREY BackUP Telecom Consulting Office: 615-791-9969 Cell: 615-796- On 2019-08-16 10:44 AM, Mike Hammett

Re: [VoiceOps] Connecting to Remote Tandems

2019-08-16 Thread Mike Hammett
*nods* it's the transport piece I don't have. Transport to all of these tandems at reasonable prices. I figured since they did have those pieces, it'd be a good alternative. Maybe not. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com Midwest Internet Exchange

Re: [VoiceOps] AT Answering Misdials

2019-08-16 Thread Matthew Yaklin
I realize billing for that type of call is almost nothing now days... but wouldn't that go from a call that has no billing charge what so ever to a call with a tiny bill tied to it since it was answered? If you are ATT that could add up? Just curious since it was brought up. Matthew Yaklin

[VoiceOps] AT Answering Misdials

2019-08-16 Thread Mike Hammett
I misdialed a number (312) 817-1629 and got the message, "At no additional charge, AT can help you find a similar business in the same area, since the number you called is not in service." It then went into an IVR. Is this common? Does this break any automated systems? No, I have no

Re: [VoiceOps] CLEC - STIR/SHAKEN

2019-08-16 Thread Dovid Bender
Alex, You would think so. From what I understand you will need to be a LEC to get a cert. On Fri, Aug 16, 2019 at 10:33 AM Alex Balashov wrote: > If non-LEC VoIP providers can direct own numbering resources now, it > follows that they should be able to partake of STIR/SHAKEN. > > — > Sent

Re: [VoiceOps] CLEC - STIR/SHAKEN

2019-08-16 Thread Alex Balashov
If non-LEC VoIP providers can direct own numbering resources now, it follows that they should be able to partake of STIR/SHAKEN. — Sent from mobile, with due apologies for brevity and errors. > On Aug 16, 2019, at 9:16 AM, Dovid Bender wrote: > > As I understand it if one wants to get a cert

[VoiceOps] CLEC - STIR/SHAKEN

2019-08-16 Thread Dovid Bender
As I understand it if one wants to get a cert for STIR shaken you need to become a CLEC. Anyone have a how to/contacts for companies that make this effortless and easy? ___ VoiceOps mailing list VoiceOps@voiceops.org