Re: [VoiceOps] Programs to analyze CDRs

2021-06-14 Thread scott
I know this is an old thread, but I used to like https://transnexus.com/cdranalyzer/ for this. On 2021-02-04 11:25, Mary Lou Carey wrote: I have a client looking for recommendations on software programs to analyze their CDRs. They need one that will determine the percent of traffic by type: Lo

Re: [VoiceOps] Call Quality

2021-06-14 Thread Pete Mundy
I can attest to them being non-zero as I have handled multiple of these tickets myself! I don't believe they do it through arrogance or malice though - just plain ignorance. > On 15/06/2021, at 9:46 AM, Mike Hammett wrote: > > God, I hope customers don't hold their carriers responsible fo

Re: [VoiceOps] Call Quality

2021-06-14 Thread mgraves mstvp . com
That’s nice. However, a simple headset with a boom mounted microphone is a vast improvement over a typical situation. Even a cheap one from Koss. https://www.zipdx.info/product-review-koss-cs300-usb-headset/ We have a special service for use by conference interpreters like those who work for t

Re: [VoiceOps] Call Quality

2021-06-14 Thread Mike Hammett
*nods* When in the home office, I use my podcasting setup (headphones, dedicated mic, ran through some software to clean up a bit more.) - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com Midwest Internet Exchange http://www.midwest-ix.com - Original Mess

Re: [VoiceOps] Call Quality

2021-06-14 Thread mgraves mstvp . com
Working for a conferencing company, we hear all about this. You’d think that acoustic echo cancellation was settled science, and you’d be wrong. There are so many bad quality speakerphones and conference phones. Further, so many software engineers (yes, you Google!) think they have some special

Re: [VoiceOps] Call Quality

2021-06-14 Thread Carlos Alvarez
Oh, they absolutely do TRY to. And junk equipment. Last week a site-level manager for a customer tried to tell us we were responsible for and needed to do something about the 15-20 robocalls per day they were getting. My first answer was, wait, ONLY 15-20?? (Number is SEO and so easily scraped.

Re: [VoiceOps] Call Quality

2021-06-14 Thread Carlos Alvarez
It's not an issue other than what others said; junk analog gear and/or people doing dumb things. Another one I found was call center people who don't want to mess up their hair, and wear a headset with the band around the neck, earpiece angled off the back of the earlobe. They turn up the volume

Re: [VoiceOps] Call Quality

2021-06-14 Thread Mike Hammett
God, I hope customers don't hold their carriers responsible for inappropriate use of speakerphones. Yes, I'm sure the complaints received for the above are non-null. That's how much faith I have in customers. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com

Re: [VoiceOps] Call Quality

2021-06-14 Thread Mike Hammett
I can't say I've experienced it, no. It was just something a potential customer told me they were concerned with. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com Midwest Internet Exchange http://www.midwest-ix.com - Original Message - From: "Carl

Re: [VoiceOps] Call Quality

2021-06-14 Thread Chris Boyd
I regularly hear echo on Teams calls when there is a person is not using a headset and the reflection off the walls of the room are outside what the ECX software on the computer can cope with. > On Jun 14, 2021, at 4:35 PM, Mike Hammett wrote: > > Well right. > > The analog portions of most c

Re: [VoiceOps] Call Quality

2021-06-14 Thread Tim Bray via VoiceOps
On 14/06/2021 22:25, Mike Hammett wrote: One of the concerns I heard was echo. On a purely digital call, what would be the cause of echo? Echo, as in hearing yourself coming back with a delay? Sound flying from the speaker to the microphone at the far end. Dodgy speaker phone, poor plastic de

Re: [VoiceOps] Call Quality

2021-06-14 Thread Carlos Alvarez
So are you saying that you've experienced echo on a fully VoIP call? IP handset to IP handset, without some sort of analog interface other than in the handsets? I can't recall the last echo complaint we've had. On Mon, Jun 14, 2021 at 2:35 PM Mike Hammett wrote: > Well right. > > The analog p

Re: [VoiceOps] Call Quality

2021-06-14 Thread Mike Hammett
Well right. The analog portions of most calls are extremely small anymore (speaker to ear and mouth to microphone). - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com Midwest Internet Exchange http://www.midwest-ix.com - Original Message - From: "C

Re: [VoiceOps] Call Quality

2021-06-14 Thread Carlos Alvarez
Well, no call is purely digital, the endpoints are still analog, as is the meatbag behind the handset. I can't imagine any way you can create echo in the digital portions. But a mismatch in impedance on an ATA or similar device would be a common old problem I've faced. On Mon, Jun 14, 2021 at 2

Re: [VoiceOps] Call Quality

2021-06-14 Thread Mike Hammett
One of the concerns I heard was echo. On a purely digital call, what would be the cause of echo? - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com Midwest Internet Exchange http://www.midwest-ix.com - Original Message - From: "Mike Hammett" To: "V

Re: [VoiceOps] USF is 33.4% for 2Q2021

2021-06-14 Thread Mike Hammett
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1CD7SDMZ0wIgEH5hAg0nWnuTxcXmkRb1N22wNLf25AHM/edit?usp=sharing I made a chart so you can see how the contribution factor has changed over time. It'd be nice if I had columns for how much they were spending, but I don't have the time to collect all of th

Re: [VoiceOps] USF is 33.4% for 2Q2021

2021-06-14 Thread Calvin Ellison
The FCC announced the proposed universal service contribution factor for the third quarter of 2021 will be 31.8%, down from the previous quarter’s 33.4%. https://www.neca.org/docs/default-source/wwpdf/public/da21676.pdf Calvin Ellison Systems Architect calvin.elli...@voxox.com The informa

Re: [VoiceOps] Call Quality

2021-06-14 Thread Richard Jobson
Transcoding is something that’s not been mentioned here yet. Especially with the growth of Microsoft Teams using Silk audio codec driving wideband telephony and all voice arriving from a wireless network needs to be transcoded before going to the PSTN which is clamped at G.711 narrowband. Packe

Re: [VoiceOps] Call Quality

2021-06-14 Thread Alex Balashov
Yeah, there's so many moving parts to the voice quality equation within the supply chain, equipment choices, and network engineering that it would be hard to even scratch the surface in a mailing list thread. On 6/14/21 12:26 PM, Brandon Svec via VoiceOps wrote: There are so many places that p

Re: [VoiceOps] Call Quality

2021-06-14 Thread Brandon Svec via VoiceOps
There are so many places that poor call quality can be introduced that I suppose someone could write a book about it :) I do have a general sense that some voice providers, particularly the largest, do some "proprietary magic" for lack of a better term. For example, RingCentral explains somewhere

Re: [VoiceOps] Call Quality

2021-06-14 Thread Mike Hammett
I should add that my initial intent was the voice ecosystem, aside from the end-users. For those, usually it's one of the things we all already know. Why would carrier A have "good quality", while carrier B didn't? I had a conversation with a customer about quality being more important tha

Re: [VoiceOps] Call Quality

2021-06-14 Thread Tim Bray via VoiceOps
Hi, It depends on your definition of pipes not too overloaded.   And I'm presuming from mention of pipes that you mean network induced call quality problems. Usually bufferbloat.   Routers with too much memory cause a lot of latency at the point of a fast to slow transition in the network.