Re: Pyramid water pump

2005-04-25 Thread Mike Carrell
BlankNow that this thread has led into ancient technology in general, let me stir the pot by referring to Cremo Thompson's Hidden History of the Human Race, a condensation of Forbidden Archeology. Their invesigation pushes evidence of intelligent hominid habitation way, way back in time. It's

Re: Pyramid water pump

2005-04-25 Thread leaking pen
theres no egg here to wipe. and no, theres not really much difference. they mean the same thing. and yes, darwin was a scientist. if youve read his works, youd know that. he formulated theory, made observations, changed his theory based on observations. he allowed his religion to color his

Re: Pyramid water pump

2005-04-25 Thread leaking pen
something ive refused to believe (that we are smarter) since discovering just how many things have been known for centuries or more that influence and shape modern technology. i agree completely, we arent smarter, we just have more tools to work with. however, one thing that IS different between

Re: pyramid water pump

2005-04-25 Thread Stephen A. Lawrence
thomas malloy wrote: Baronvolsung wrote: The movie Highlander 2, The Quickening starring Christopher Lambert, has a Really Baron, this is a science discussion group. In case anyone else hasn't noticed B.V. is a sci fi writer (amateur? not sure) who normally posts sci-fi to the list. Check out

Re: Pyramid water pump

2005-04-25 Thread Stephen A. Lawrence
RC Macaulay wrote: Back to Egyptian pyramids.. The scope of teh work and technology required leaves me wondering how much of ancient history is missing.. we actually know or understand so little. Take the library of Alexandria in Egypt that was sacked and burned in later BC. The Greeks

Re: pyramid water pump

2005-04-25 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Mike- I would guess what the Egyptians did not have is an abundance of wood to make forms.-Ges-

Re: Pyramid water pumps

2005-04-25 Thread Stephen A. Lawrence
RC Macaulay wrote: Leaking Pen wrote and i notice, you still havent answered my question. you might want to stop jabbing that strawman in the corner, the discussion is over HERE. Asked and answered. If you folks continue to snip this heavily you're both going to start yelling incoherently in

Re: Pyramid water pumps

2005-04-25 Thread leaking pen
Seems antiquity is loaded with examples of engineering and architectural works that have us thinking that perhaps the people of that age were intelligent beings and had not degenerated which seems to contradict the Darwinian theorists. . again, how is the assumption that ancient people were

VCs have contributed nothing to fundamental breakthroughs

2005-04-25 Thread Jed Rothwell
Venture capitalism began around 1900 and I think, with the Charles Flint Company. I was going to say that as far as I know VCs have contributed little to fundamental research and to the important breakthroughs of the 20th century. However, I started to make a list of key breakthroughs, and it

Re: Pyramid water pump

2005-04-25 Thread leaking pen
On 4/25/05, Stephen A. Lawrence [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Keith Nagel wrote: Mike writes: We moderns suffer from temporal chauvisism, the delusion that we are the smartest of all humanity [which is refuted by any teenager]. It happens that there are more tech geeks like us than

Connecticut Yankee speculation

2005-04-25 Thread Jed Rothwell
Mike Carrell wrote: Most of Edison's inventions could have been built anytime in the Iron Age by someone who knew what to do. I think that is somewhat exaggerated. Edison's improved stock market ticker and his phonograph required precision parts and advanced metallurgy that were not available

Re: VC after the dot.bomb

2005-04-25 Thread Jed Rothwell
Jones Beene wrote: Venture capital is the life blood of Capitalism. Yes, but it has nothing to do with fundamental innovation or basic research. People such as Einstein, Dirac, Mizuno, Miles or Oriani are not motivated by money, and their work seldom yields any direct profits. I have nothing

Re: pyramid water pump

2005-04-25 Thread Baronvolsung
In a message dated 4/24/05 12:41:39 AM Pacific Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Really Baron, this is a science discussion group. By that logic, you should mention the thermonuclear fusion reactors that powered Star ship Enterprise. I am using the principles of reverse engineering of

RE: VC after the dot.bomb

2005-04-25 Thread Keith Nagel
Jed writes: I have nothing against capitalism. But cold fusion is still at the fundamental research level, and there is no way a venture capitalist can invest in it. True, but for the reason I state: there is no property protection so no sane businessperson would invest in it. Would you put

RE: VC after the dot.bomb

2005-04-25 Thread Jones Beene
--- Keith Nagel wrote: Jed writes: I have nothing against capitalism. But cold fusion is still at the fundamental research level, and there is no way a venture capitalist can invest in it. True, but for the reason I state: there is no property protection so no sane businessperson would

Re: Pyramid water pump

2005-04-25 Thread Baronvolsung
In a message dated 4/24/05 8:08:05 PM Pacific Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: The Egyptians scoffed at Grecian works and architecture explaining they ( Egypt) has a history eons before Greece existed. http://www.greatbuildings.com/buildings/Treasury_of_Atreus.html Richard The

Re: Prometheus Effect and SMOT kits

2005-04-25 Thread Prometheus Effect
--- [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: What I ask again is the PROMETHEUS EFFECT? I only know that Prometheus showed man how to use fire. So What is his effect?-ges Hi, The Prometheus Effect allows a permanent magnet to lift a ferromagnetic mass against gravity and then to

Re: Prometheus Effect and SMOT kits

2005-04-25 Thread Terry Blanton
Prometheus Effect wrote: The Prometheus Effect allows a permanent magnet to lift a ferromagnetic mass against gravity and then to cause it to be released (with no significant magnetic dragback) while retaining the PE gained by the lift. Does the height of lift vary with the particular planet?

Re: pyramid water pump

2005-04-25 Thread Mike Carrell
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote Mike- I would guess what the Egyptians did not have is an abundance of wood to make forms.-Ges- At one time Egypt was forested, but I'm not sure when. Wood for forms is a non-issue, they were re-used over and over. The wet concrete was like wet

Re: Prometheus Effect and SMOT kits

2005-04-25 Thread Prometheus Effect
--- Terry Blanton [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Does the height of lift vary with the particular planet? Hi Terry, Sure does ;-) Now it's just engineering effort, time and money, Greg Find local movie times and trailers on Yahoo! Movies. http://au.movies.yahoo.com

Re: Connecticut Yankee speculation

2005-04-25 Thread Mike Carrell
Jed wrote: Mike Carrell wrote: Most of Edison's inventions could have been built anytime in the Iron Age by someone who knew what to do. I think that is somewhat exaggerated. Sure, it's a bit of hyperbole, to stir discussion. I read a piece on the Internet about the Antikytheria mechanism,

Re: VC after the dot.bomb

2005-04-25 Thread Stephen A. Lawrence
Jed Rothwell wrote: Jones Beene wrote: Venture capital is the life blood of Capitalism. Yes, but it has nothing to do with fundamental innovation or basic research. People such as Einstein, Dirac, Mizuno, Miles or Oriani are not motivated by money, and their work seldom yields any direct

Re: Prometheus Effect and SMOT kits

2005-04-25 Thread Stephen A. Lawrence
Terry Blanton wrote: Prometheus Effect wrote: The Prometheus Effect allows a permanent magnet to lift a ferromagnetic mass against gravity and then to cause it to be released (with no significant magnetic dragback) while retaining the PE gained by the lift. Does the height of lift vary with the