Re: Could Low Level Electrolysis Be Overunity?

2005-05-22 Thread Edmund Storms
Jones Beene wrote: Ed, When extra H+ or OH- are added to make the fluid conductive, the H2O is no longer pure and at unit activity. In essence, energy has been added that has partially split the water into H and O. As a result, less energy is required as voltage to complete the process. I

Re: Could Low Level Electrolysis Be Overunity?

2005-05-22 Thread Jones Beene
Ed, When extra H+ or OH- are added to make the fluid conductive, the H2O is no longer pure and at unit activity. In essence, energy has been added that has partially split the water into H and O. As a result, less energy is required as voltage to complete the process. If the energy added to

RE: And this *would* solve the energy crisis

2005-05-22 Thread Keith Nagel
Hi Ed. You write: >I suspect that when a person loses his pension, his job, and his house, >and food costs rise out of sight because of high energy costs, he will >be so pissed that gay rights, abortion, and other religious issues will >become much less important. And you would be entirely wro

Re: Could Low Level Electrolysis Be Overunity?

2005-05-22 Thread Edmund Storms
Jones Beene wrote: Ah...Ultra high efficiency electrolysis - it is a subject that reappears at least yearly on vortex. As it is involved in CF, there are probably more water-splitters here per capita than anywhere else on the net. Between all the water and hair-splitters, we could set up a c

Re: And this *would* solve the energy crisis

2005-05-22 Thread Edmund Storms
Steven Vincent Johnson wrote: Hi Ed, ... Yes Steven, I agree this is what we need. However, how can this approach be brought about? If I knew the answer to that question! As for me, it often feels as if all I personally can do is continue to paint better visions of the future - direct

Re: Could Low Level Electrolysis Be Overunity?

2005-05-22 Thread Jones Beene
Ah...Ultra high efficiency electrolysis - it is a subject that reappears at least yearly on vortex. As it is involved in CF, there are probably more water-splitters here per capita than anywhere else on the net. Between all the water and hair-splitters, we could set up a chapter of Slitters-An

Another Norweigan First - Wave Power

2005-05-22 Thread Terry Blanton
First in fjords, laddermills and now: "The power generators, like giant, orange sausages floating on water, will use wave motion to produce electricity by pumping high-pressure fluids to motors, Norsk Hydro AS said. The Norwegian energy company is a major backer of the project." http://www.c

The Proposed Mallove Cold Fusion Unit

2005-05-22 Thread John Coviello
I hastly posted a description of the proposed Mallove Cold Fusion unit last night.  Here's a more thorough description of the Mallove unit, as proposed by Dr. Schwartz: The "Mallove" is a proposed unit to describe the height/width of the optimal operating points which appears to describe mo

RE: Could Low Level Electrolysis Be Overunity?

2005-05-22 Thread Zell, Chris
Maybe it does and goes unnoticed as much of the excess current gets turned into heat. -Original Message- From: Robin van Spaandonk [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, May 20, 2005 9:59 PM To: vortex-l@eskimo.com Subject: Re: Could Low Level Electrolysis Be Overunity? In reply to Ze