Re: Not what they seem

2005-07-26 Thread Grimer
At 11:16 pm 25/07/2005 -0500, Richard wrote: Terry, Yes , things are not what they seem. This statement extends to most science. Way back when I was in school we were taught crude oil came from dinosaurs and decayed vegetable matter and this was in the early 1940's. I have been

RE: A page on the Sagnac effect

2005-07-26 Thread Chambers, Robert (UK)
http://www.physicsinsights.org/sagnac_1.html You might also be interested in http://www.atomicprecision.com/new/a45thpaper.pdf which describes the Sagnac effect in terms of general, rather than special, relativity. Special relativity is not applicable because it is not concerned with

Re: A page on the Sagnac effect

2005-07-26 Thread Stephen A. Lawrence
Chambers, Robert (UK) wrote: http://www.physicsinsights.org/sagnac_1.html You might also be interested in http://www.atomicprecision.com/new/a45thpaper.pdf which describes the Sagnac effect in terms of general, rather than special, relativity. Special relativity is not applicable

Re: The Secret of Sonoluminescense: Groping the Elephant

2005-07-26 Thread Mike Carrell
From: Terry Blanton [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: The Secret of Sonoluminescense From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] It does make me wonder if there might be at least some similarities between Putoff and Mill's theory, which I gather on the surface are about as opposite to each other as night is to

The radiating electron and Casimir

2005-07-26 Thread Merlyn
Suppose that the Casimir Force is caused by something other than the fluctuations of the ZPE field. At atomic distances where the Casimir comes into play the difference between the position of an electron at either side of it's orbit is a considerable portion of the distance between said electron

Re: The Secret of Sonoluminescense: Groping the Elephant

2005-07-26 Thread orionworks
From: Mike Carrell ... The non-collapse of the hydrogen electron orbit is a puzzle in conventional QM. Puthoff's postulation of an energy exchange with the ZPE is just that, a postulate, without any detailed mechanism visible [unless there is something in the paper]. Mills' orbitsphere model

Re: The Secret of Sonoluminescense: Groping the Elephant

2005-07-26 Thread Christopher Arnold
Steven, Show some respect for your elders, at least the ones that deserve it. Chris[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: "Mike Carrell"... The non-collapse of the hydrogen electron orbit is a puzzle in conventional QM. Puthoff's postulation of an energy exchange with the "ZPE" is just that, a

Insipid New York Times editorial

2005-07-26 Thread Jed Rothwell
The New York Times has an editorial today about global warming. It begins: A Few Degrees By any measure, this has already been a summer of extremes. The brutality of the record-setting heat that lay over the desert Southwest for the past two weeks may have broken at last, but it has not

My recent spelling of Hal Puthoff's name

2005-07-26 Thread orionworks
To whom it may concern. I've gotten the impression that several individuals have apparently felt that I have shown disrespect toward Hal Puthoff, presumably because I had misspelled his name as Putoff instead of as Puthoff. This was spelling mistake site on my part, pure and simple. It was

Re: My recent spelling ....

2005-07-26 Thread Jones Beene
Steven, FWIW, I suffer a form for random dyslexia that occasionally ravages my prose to the point of causing occasional embarrassment at times when I can least afford it I represence those sin-laments a hunert-n-fifty precence, sense my-bad-lexia is non-random...

Re: The Secret of Sonoluminescense

2005-07-26 Thread thomas malloy
From: Grimer I've been re-reading one of Puthoff's old papers from 1986, which was recenly referred to on Vortex, viz, Putoff's theory, on the surface, possesses an elegant symmetry to it, not that I'm really in a position to challenge it. There remains, however, a nagging question

Re: The Secret of Sonoluminescense

2005-07-26 Thread RC Macaulay
Mike Carroll wrote.. I've spent hours in the presence of both Dr. Hal Puthoff and Dr. RandellMills, but that doesn't prove anything in particular. IMO trying to forceZPE, Casmir, BLP and LENR into the same box by saying any of these is"really" another is quite futile in the present state of

RE: A page on the Sagnac effect

2005-07-26 Thread Chambers, Robert (UK)
This is a common misconception, but it's wrong. With classical special relativity, such as Einstein laid out in his 1905 Electrodynamics paper, one must explicitly add the clocks hypothesis, which states that clocks are unaffected by acceleration. Once you've done that, however, you can

RE: A page on the Sagnac effect

2005-07-26 Thread Chambers, Robert (UK)
(The clocks hypothesis has also been experimentally verified, by the way.) Slight glitch in the previous email - sorry! To continue... I found this on the clock hypothesis: http://math.ucr.edu/home/baez/physics/Relativity/SR/experiments.html#5.%20Twin%20paradox The clock hypothesis states

Re: Insipid New York Times editorial

2005-07-26 Thread Edmund Storms
All very true, Merlyn. However, the main use of energy in the future will be pumping water out of regions overwhelmed by the rising ocean and removing salt from ocean water so that low lands can be flushed free of salt. The air conditioning load will be handled by local solar collectors and

Re: My recent spelling of Hal Puthoff's name

2005-07-26 Thread Terry Blanton
From: Terry Blanton Hal is oft maligned because of his colorful research but he seems to take it well. He certainly does need me to defend him. Not. sheesh One should always wear matching Freudian bra and panties with the Freudian slip.

Re: A page on the Sagnac effect

2005-07-26 Thread Stephen A. Lawrence
Chambers, Robert (UK) wrote: (The clocks hypothesis has also been experimentally verified, by the way.) Slight glitch in the previous email - sorry! To continue... I found this on the clock hypothesis:

Re: My recent spelling of Hal Puthoff's name

2005-07-26 Thread orionworks
From: Terry Blanton Hal is oft maligned because of his colorful research but he seems to take it well. He certainly does need me to defend him. Not. sheesh You might find it amusing to know that my dyslexia, once again, kicked in at the appropriate moment and inserted the not

Pleasant dreams from the International Association of Nanotechnology

2005-07-26 Thread Jed Rothwell
Here is part of an FAQ recently mailed to me by the International Association of Nanotechnology [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Frequently Asked Questions about Nanotechnology and its impact on Society 1. How much money has been funded in Nanotechnology worldwide? $4.3 billion a year 2. How much is

PBS Science Now on H2

2005-07-26 Thread Terry Blanton
I don't know if many Vorts caught the show; but, the tennis court demonstration of a fuel cell operation was hilarious. http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/nova/sciencenow/3210/01.html The clickable car on the web page is a Honda 2005 FCX, the company's second generation fuel cell vehicle. One was

Re: Pleasant dreams from the International Association of

2005-07-26 Thread Terry Blanton
From: Jed Rothwell 4. Is 'Nano Nuclear Weapon' a potential threat to our civilization? Yes. I believe the term is ecophagy: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Grey_goo Creighton's Prey is somewhat entertaining.