Re: [Vo]: Half full or half empty

2007-03-02 Thread Michel Jullian
Excellent reasoning John :) Talking about glasses, what we need _now_ IMHO is good glasses allowing us to see through the haystack of defective designs/proposals, so we can concentrate on the few needles that may hide in there. It's a question of not wasting scarce time, energy, money and

Re: [Vo]: Mars Melt

2007-03-02 Thread peatbog
thomas malloy wrote: Jones Beene wrote: Terry In fact according to another scientist's controversial theory, we may be headed in the direction of a Maunder Minimum, ... which... to Meander into cold cynicism, is another solution to the global warming problem. I have previously

RE: [Vo]: Half full or half empty

2007-03-02 Thread David Thomson
Hi John, The answer is easier obtained by taking two glasses, one full and one empty, and then taking half of each. If a glass is already empty, taking half of it doesn't fill it. It only makes sense to take half of a full glass. Dave _ From: John Berry [mailto:[EMAIL

Re: [Vo]: Quantum Thermodynamics

2007-03-02 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Nick, Nick Palmer wrote: Paul, you seem to think that just because you have used a computer modelling program (LT Spice) that it's predictions are necessarily reality. If the initial assumptions and parameters that were modelled and programmed in are in error it won't be of much use to

Re: [Vo]: Quantum Thermodynamics

2007-03-02 Thread Terry Blanton
On 3/1/07, Nick Palmer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Of course once you have done this, then the world will also beat a path to your door but I suspect that hell will freeze over first. Well, Nick, the energy must come from somewhere. An engineer dies. He arrives at the Pearly Gates, but they

Re: [Vo]: Half full or half empty

2007-03-02 Thread RC Macaulay
May work in the new world of welfare but never in the saloon at Dime Box Texas. The characters that inhabit a Texas beer joint are a microcism of the US Congress. For sure a fight will start as soon as somebody takes a sip outa somebody else's mug.. half full or half empty.. the fight

Re: [Vo]: Half full or half empty

2007-03-02 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RC Macaulay wrote: May work in the new world of welfare but never in the saloon at Dime Box Texas. The characters that inhabit a Texas beer joint are a microcism of the US Congress. For sure a fight will start as soon as somebody takes a sip outa somebody else's mug.. half full or half

Re: [Vo]: Half full or half empty

2007-03-02 Thread Terry Blanton
On 3/2/07, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I wonder what would happen if I placed an appreciable price, say $100. You would receive a citation and be fined for running a business without a license. Soon, you would be audited by the IRS and they would trump up some charges against

[Vo]: Re: Mars Melt

2007-03-02 Thread Jones Beene
The good thing about this thread is that anyone with a computer can pretty-much call themselves an expert climatologist, as there are few pundits with phoney-baloney PhD's who can can actually prove them wrong. Show any expert (getting a fat Federal paycheck for felicitous science consulting)

Re: [Vo]: Half full or half empty

2007-03-02 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Terry Blanton wrote: On 3/2/07, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I wonder what would happen if I placed an appreciable price, say $100. You would receive a citation and be fined for running a business without a license. Soon, you would be audited by the IRS and they would trump

Re: [Vo]: Half full or half empty

2007-03-02 Thread Terry Blanton
On 3/2/07, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Wow, such pessimistic POV or humor. The latter. Didn't you recognize the method of suicide from Alice's Restaurant? Terry, so positive I repell electrons.

Re: [Vo]: Half full or half empty

2007-03-02 Thread John Berry
The difference is that I believe (to put in mildly) that it is possible to have a simple electrical device (actually an aetheric electrical device) that generates any desired level of energy, most here don't. (so why are they here?) The energy being probably created (there is simply no reason to

Re: [Vo]: Half full or half empty

2007-03-02 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]
John Berry wrote: The problem is there is much that most ignore due to ***LIMITS*** they assume exist and if these more spooky things did exist they assume couldn't be understood or engineered. Sad, but very true. Regards, Paul Lowrance

RE: [Vo]: Half full or half empty

2007-03-02 Thread David Thomson
Hi John, You're just as guilty as those you accuse. I have presented a fully quantified alternative physics theory, which predicts exactly what you claim ought to be possible. http://www.16pi2.com/files/NewFoundationPhysics.pdf You believe matter can be created?

Re: [Vo]: Half full or half empty

2007-03-02 Thread Harry Veeder
During the Renaissance (and before), many reasonable people scoffed at the idea that the Earth is spinning. The main (non-religious) objections were: 1) If the Earth is spinning then why doesn't the Earth move below a stone thrown straight up. 2) A body that is not anchored to the ground should

Re: [Vo]: Half full or half empty

2007-03-02 Thread Stephen A. Lawrence
David Thomson wrote: Hi John, You’re just as guilty as those you accuse. I have presented a fully quantified alternative physics theory, which predicts exactly what you claim ought to be possible. http://www.16pi2.com/files/NewFoundationPhysics.pdf You believe matter can be

Re: [Vo]: Half full or half empty

2007-03-02 Thread Terry Blanton
On 3/2/07, Stephen A. Lawrence [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I asked Grimer how he dealt with the MMX results, and he never replied ... for whatever that's worth. But maybe he just overlooked the post. Maybe he didn't get it. His email address has changed since he went broadband. Also, I don't

Re: [Vo]: Half full or half empty

2007-03-02 Thread Stephen A. Lawrence
Terry Blanton wrote: On 3/2/07, Stephen A. Lawrence [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I asked Grimer how he dealt with the MMX results, and he never replied ... for whatever that's worth. But maybe he just overlooked the post. Maybe he didn't get it. It was a post to Vortex, back when he was

Re: [Vo]: Half full or half empty

2007-03-02 Thread Terry Blanton
On 3/2/07, Stephen A. Lawrence [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I never bought his theory to start with so going into his forum to ask him for details would be more like just taking a jab at him than actually sincerely asking for information. Well, in my experience with Brits, they like the verbal

Re: [Vo]: Quantum Thermodynamics

2007-03-02 Thread Nick Palmer
From John Berry's we can do what ever we want if we just get the old rocks out of our head message:- Why people think their preconcieved notions of what is and isn't possible trumps the evidence I'll never know Quite so. Tell Paul... Paul Lowrance has come up with a theory that if he

Re: [Vo]: Quantum Thermodynamics

2007-03-02 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Nick Palmer wrote: From John Berry's we can do what ever we want if we just get the old rocks out of our head message:- Why people think their preconcieved notions of what is and isn't possible trumps the evidence I'll never know Quite so. Tell Paul... Paul Lowrance has come up with a

Re: [Vo]: Half full or half empty

2007-03-02 Thread John Berry
On 3/3/07, Stephen A. Lawrence [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: David Thomson wrote: Hi John, You're just as guilty as those you accuse. I have presented a fully quantified alternative physics theory, which predicts exactly what you claim ought to be possible.

Re: [Vo]: Half full or half empty

2007-03-02 Thread John Berry
On 3/3/07, David Thomson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi John, You're just as guilty as those you accuse. I have presented a fully quantified alternative physics theory, which predicts exactly what you claim ought to be possible. Not quite sure what I'm meant to be guilty of, this is the

[Vo]: Fw: [BOBPARKS-WHATSNEW] What's New Friday March 2, 2007

2007-03-02 Thread Akira Kawasaki
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Re: [Vo]: Half full or half empty

2007-03-02 Thread John Berry
Ok, that didn't take long. I am after skimming (very lightly) the 3 links unsure what experiments your theory is based on. I am also not sure it said anything about how to make a simple device to output free energy or create (so-called) antigravity. Does it explain the vast majority, or at

Re: [Vo]: Quantum Thermodynamics

2007-03-02 Thread Nick Palmer
Paul wrote:- Nick, Answer this. If it is possible to capture energy from ambient temperature then wouldn't you want to know how? Obviously, but we already know how you propose to do it because you already told us over and over. Nanometre scale arrays of LEDs and noisy diode/resistors.

Re: [Vo]: Quantum Thermodynamics

2007-03-02 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Nick Palmer wrote: Paul wrote:- Nick, Answer this. If it is possible to capture energy from ambient temperature then wouldn't you want to know how? I wish you luck in your endeavour. Please don't leave now. If I can demonstrate how you can store energy taken from ambient

Re: [Vo]: Half full or half empty

2007-03-02 Thread Stephen A. Lawrence
John Berry wrote: It is the only possible model as SR is illogical Well, that sure shoots down SR. If so, how you do you account for the results of the Michelson-Morley and Sagnac experiments in your model? These two brought down the classical aether theories, along with

Re: [Vo]: Quantum Thermodynamics

2007-03-02 Thread Stephen A. Lawrence
Nick Palmer wrote: From John Berry's we can do what ever we want if we just get the old rocks out of our head message:- Why people think their preconcieved notions of what is and isn't possible trumps the evidence I'll never know Quite so. Tell Paul... Paul Lowrance has come up with a

Re: [Vo]: Half full or half empty

2007-03-02 Thread John Berry
On 3/3/07, Stephen A. Lawrence [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: John Berry wrote: It is the only possible model as SR is illogical Well, that sure shoots down SR. SR has many logical inconsistencies, you can't not be aware of this. There are many situations where SR simply can't work though I

Re: [Vo]: Re: lifter in a accelerating frame

2007-03-02 Thread Harry Veeder
Harry Veeder wrote: mv^2/r is the _derived_ centripetal force on an object rotating relative to an inertial frame of reference. If the Earth is assumed to be rotating then v = 0 for the satellite and the satellite's equation of motion is: GMm/r^2 - ma = 0, and a = GM/r^2 If the

Re: [Vo]: Re: lifter in a accelerating frame

2007-03-02 Thread John Berry
On 3/1/07, Stephen A. Lawrence [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Harry Veeder wrote: If any divergence between inertial and gravitational mass is ever found, however small it may be, it will be a an enormous blow to the validity of GR, because it will imply that gravity is /not/ a fictitious force,