RE: [Vo]: Is Big brother watching?

2007-03-09 Thread David Thomson
Hi Harry, These days I am more concerned with Big Sister than Big Brother. Why is that? Dave

RE: [Vo]: E=mc^2 without SR.

2007-03-09 Thread David Thomson
Hi Steven, OTOH it's my understanding that time dilation has been confirmed. Extremely brief half-life's of certain sub atomic particles that are speeding close to C have been detected to decay within a slowed down time period reference from our perspective. At least, that's my understanding.

[Vo]: Spooky Radar

2007-03-09 Thread Terry Blanton
http://www.guardian.co.uk/international/story/0,,2027227,00.html US defence contractor looks for quantum leap in radar research David Adam Tuesday March 6, 2007 The Guardian They designed an exploding cigar to kill Fidel Castro and hired fortune-tellers to fight the cold war. Now the US

RE: [Vo]: E=mc^2 without SR.

2007-03-09 Thread Steven Vincent Johnson
Hi Dave, Aspects of SR have always intrigued me, perhaps for its Alice-in-Wunderland spatial analysis qualities. With that qualification in mind... ... Another false prediction of SR is that it doesn't matter which object is moving [at] what velocity, since it is believed there is no fixed

[Vo]: BEV vs FCEV

2007-03-09 Thread Terry Blanton
I saw a cute statement in this argument: It's easier to deliver an electron than a proton. Of course, with H2 you get both. :-)

RE: [Vo]: E=mc^2 without SR.

2007-03-09 Thread David Thomson
Hi Terry, IMHO, we will only succeed in tying ourselves into unsolvable knots similar to religious fanaticism if we insist there MUST exist an ABSOLUTE frame of reference. SR, would seem to suggest there ain't no such animal and never was - period. Ah, but that is the key. SR is not

[Vo]: Outrage !!

2007-03-09 Thread Jones Beene
This is the Petrocracy at works, folks: http://www.herald-review.com/articles/2007/03/01/news/local_news/1021491.txt

[Vo]: Re: Outrage !!

2007-03-09 Thread Michel Jullian
Outrageous indeed! There is a related case here in France where they want to charge a farmer who's been selling vegetable oil as a fuel a tax called the TIPP, where the PP initials mean produits petroliers, which is even more outrageous than this story since the product he sells isn't petroleum

Re: [Vo]: Mass versus Energy

2007-03-09 Thread Paul Lowrance
David Thomson wrote: I think I'm getting tired of trying to show people the Aether Physics Model. I'm ready to just turn within and work on my own development and let people discover the answers to physics for themselves. Sorry to jump in, as my time only permits me to follow my own threads

RE: [Vo]: Mass versus Energy

2007-03-09 Thread David Thomson
Hi Paul, Let me see, Einstein explained the photoelectric effect, but none of the others items in your list rings a bell when I look over his papers. I have written a 27 page basic introduction to the theory, which I had to keep as short as possible but still present the theory. In that paper,

[Vo]: Szpak electron capture model

2007-03-09 Thread Jones Beene
Fly-in-the-ointment? http://lenr-canr.org/acrobat/SzpakSfurtherevi.pdf There is a bit of a turf-war brewing here, as I had sensed. Szpak et al. sez: A model from a chemist’s perspective that is consistent with the state of the system, imposed constraints and the nature of the electron—nucleus

Re: [Vo]: Proof of capturing ambient temperature energy

2007-03-09 Thread Harry Veeder
Michel Jullian wrote: COP is the ratio of output power to input power. Harry Same thing actually: Eout/Ein = Pout*t / Pin*t = Pout/Pin Jed's COP=1.2 example was given in terms of energy (1200 joules out / 1000 joules in), my COP=4 example was in terms of power (1000 watts out / 250

Re: [Vo]: Proof of capturing ambient temperature energy

2007-03-09 Thread Michel Jullian
You're right Harry it's more rigorous to define the COP as the ratio of output power to input power. Note that for heat pumps it is often used even more rigorously to describe the ratio of output (moved) thermal power to input mechanical power, i.e. taking the motor or engine's efficiency out

Re: [Vo]: Half full or half empty

2007-03-09 Thread Harry Veeder
David Thomson wrote: Hi Harry, Is y = xa^2 not an equation? Yes, it is the equation of a straight line with slope a^2. Of course, it is an equation. All the variables are truly variables and have the same dimension of one. Do you really think that E=mc^2 is the equation of a straight

Re: [Vo]: Mass versus Energy

2007-03-09 Thread Paul Lowrance
David Thomson wrote: Hi Paul, Let me see, Einstein explained the photoelectric effect, but none of the others items in your list rings a bell when I look over his papers. Hi, I'll point out the difference. Einstein's paper was aimed at one thing, The Photoelectric Effect. I provided you

Re: [Vo]: Proof of capturing ambient temperature energy

2007-03-09 Thread Paul Lowrance
Michel Jullian wrote: --- You're right Harry it's more rigorous to define the COP as the ratio of output power to input power. Note that for heat pumps it is often used even more rigorously to describe the ratio of output (moved) thermal power to input mechanical power, i.e. taking the motor

RE: [Vo]: E=mc^2 without SR.

2007-03-09 Thread Steven Vincent Johnson
Hello again, Dave, Nuclear fission, regardless of what isotope is involved, results in the unbinding of nuclei and hence should absorb energy and convert it to matter. This is not the case. It is not the case because nuclei heavier than iron tend to be inherently unstable. But I am no

Re: [Vo]: Outrage !!

2007-03-09 Thread Terry Blanton
I'm afraid their ordeal might not be over. The Feds will be next. This will become a problem for Tesla and with BEVs in general. This is also why the Gov't needs to sell a fuel . . . some kind of fuel. Highways are maintained by the federal excise tax on fuel. If you're not selling fuel, you

Re: [Vo]: Proof of capturing ambient temperature energy

2007-03-09 Thread Michel Jullian
Sorry if he is a friend of yours, but maybe his particular definition for COP can be guessed by reading this page... http://www.randi.org/jr/051702.html (in which Naudin is mistakenly taken for a scientist BTW, Randi even calls him Dr Naudin :) ...or any of the 1 others Google finds when

Re: [Vo]: E=mc^2 without SR.

2007-03-09 Thread Terry Blanton
OOps! Now I am. On 3/9/07, Terry Blanton [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 3/9/07, David Thomson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi Terry, waves and looks around I'm not in this thread. :-) Terry

Re: [Vo]: E=mc^2 without SR.

2007-03-09 Thread Terry Blanton
On 3/9/07, David Thomson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi Terry, waves and looks around I'm not in this thread. :-) Terry

Re: [Vo]: Proof of capturing ambient temperature energy

2007-03-09 Thread Paul Lowrance
Michel Jullian wrote: Sorry if he is a friend of yours, but maybe his particular definition for COP can be guessed by reading this page... http://www.randi.org/jr/051702.html (in which Naudin is mistakenly taken for a scientist BTW, Randi even calls him Dr Naudin :) ...or any of the

Re: [Vo]: Outrage !!

2007-03-09 Thread Jed Rothwell
Terry Blanton wrote: This will become a problem for Tesla and with BEVs in general. This is also why the Gov't needs to sell a fuel . . . some kind of fuel. Highways are maintained by the federal excise tax on fuel. If you're not selling fuel, you have no $$ for highways and the corruption that

[Vo]: Fw: [BOBPARKS-WHATSNEW] What's New Friday March 9, 2007

2007-03-09 Thread Akira Kawasaki
-Forwarded Message-from Akira Kawasaki From: What's New [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Mar 9, 2007 1:25 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [BOBPARKS-WHATSNEW] What's New Friday March 9, 2007 WHAT'S NEW Robert L. Park Friday, 9 Mar 07 Washington, DC 1. GLOBAL CLIMATE: ARE THOSE WHITE

Re: [Vo]: Is Big brother watching?

2007-03-09 Thread Harry Veeder
David Thomson wrote: Hi Harry, These days I am more concerned with Big Sister than Big Brother. Why is that? Dave Big Sister is hard at work making the sexes equal. Harry

Re: [Vo]: Spooky Radar

2007-03-09 Thread Robin van Spaandonk
In reply to Terry Blanton's message of Fri, 9 Mar 2007 09:38:40 -0500: Hi, [snip] http://www.guardian.co.uk/international/story/0,,2027227,00.html US defence contractor looks for quantum leap in radar research David Adam Tuesday March 6, 2007 The Guardian They designed an exploding cigar to

Re: [Vo]: Outrage !!

2007-03-09 Thread Kyle R. Mcallister
- Original Message - From: Jed Rothwell [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: vortex-l@eskimo.com; vortex-l@eskimo.com Sent: Friday, March 09, 2007 4:07 PM Subject: Re: [Vo]: Outrage !! I do not know whether highway taxes are more likely to invite corruption than other kinds, but I think we should

Re: [Vo]: Outrage !!

2007-03-09 Thread John Berry
Turn up the heater, do go for a drive in the summer and find less depressing music and maybe environment. Of course there is an answer to all of this, but it won't be found in your current mindset... Be proactive and productive, change things don't just reduce how fast you are taking a part in

Re: [Vo]: Outrage !!

2007-03-09 Thread Terry Blanton
On 3/9/07, Kyle R. Mcallister [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I drive a long way each day to work and back, compared to many, and probably a long way in your opinion. About 40 miles round trip. The average commute in Atlanta is 34 miles one way. I personally do 23 miles one way. We have many who

[Vo]: New Challenge to Jed

2007-03-09 Thread John Berry
Ok, so the thermite, the squib explosions that can be plainly seen and heard (and recorded) and which burnt people and thew them around, and went off before the collapse and thermite detected, buildings pancaking at freefall speeds, the people doing work on the building before 911 (an

Re: [Vo]: Outrage !!

2007-03-09 Thread John Berry
Great, so $1360 a month, let's hope Jed doesn't get a job in government. Personally I think that user pays is generally a poor idea, I'm more of a flat rate all you can eat kind of guy, it is much more freeing, people don't need to be obsessing over every mile like that. But at the very least

[Vo]: Beardem

2007-03-09 Thread thomas malloy
Michael Jullian wrote; \ Sorry if he is a friend of yours, but maybe his particular definition for COP can be guessed by reading this page... http://www.randi.org/jr/051702.html (in which Naudin is mistakenly taken for a scientist BTW, Randi even calls him Dr Naudin :) ...or any of the 1