Re: [Vo]: Nuclear power plant scandals in Japan

2007-04-02 Thread John Berry
The reply-to was not vortex-L@eskimo.com as I had expected, not an attempt at anonymity. Never the less I believe that the Horror of Chernobyl, reports of up to 1 Million dead and continuing impact is perhaps great enough to put Nuclear down the list a bit in terms of preferred power sources, Coa

Re: [Vo]: ORMES questions

2007-04-02 Thread leaking pen
there are many theories of everything. gut instinct, you know. On 4/2/07, thomas malloy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: I had a serendipitous event last Thursday night. I met this Chem E. He was talking about remediating the waste out of a nickle mine. I mentioned ghost gold, he replied, ORMES. I m

Re: [Vo]: ORMES questions

2007-04-02 Thread Zachary Jones
Know who at U of M? Zak On Apr 2, 2007, at 7:32 AM, thomas malloy wrote: I had a serendipitous event last Thursday night. I met this Chem E. He was talking about remediating the waste out of a nickle mine. I mentioned ghost gold, he replied, ORMES. I mentioned Joe Champion's theories, h

Re: [Vo]: Nuclear power plant scandals in Japan

2007-04-02 Thread Jed Rothwell
One of my correspondents, who may wish to remain anonymous, wrote to me: >I was always uncomfortable whenever conventional Nuclear energy was proposed >as clean and safe. >The accidents and close calls and contaminations happen everywhere there is >Nuclear power, it isn't safe. I would like to sh

Re: [Vo]: Nuclear power plant scandals in Japan

2007-04-02 Thread Jed Rothwell
Terry Blanton writes: >> Japan is a nation prone to cover-ups and obscurity, but this scandal >> takes the cake. > >The value of 'face' exceeds that of 'truth'. This looks like straight out criminality to me. They did not want to turn off the reactors, pay a fine, or deal with the B.S. of regula

Re: [Vo]: Biofuel Bonanza

2007-04-02 Thread Jones Beene
What does big-oil fear more than Nancy Pelosi and the Dem-wits? Answer: the resourcefulness of the American farmer, backed by voter anti-tax sentiment in support of this 'local hero'. And now with aquaculture and depleted fishing resources - they also are fearing the emergence of low-cost sea

Re: [Vo]: Nuclear power plant scandals in Japan

2007-04-02 Thread Terry Blanton
On 4/2/07, Jed Rothwell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Japan is a nation prone to cover-ups and obscurity, but this scandal takes the cake. The value of 'face' exceeds that of 'truth'. Terry

Re: [Vo]: Congress seeks documents in Purdue cold-fusion probe

2007-04-02 Thread Terry Blanton
On 4/2/07, Jed Rothwell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: I do not think this has anything to do with the oil industry. A spring wind blows on the house of cards. Terry

[Vo]: Re: Possible problem with LENR-CANR. Please check.

2007-04-02 Thread norman horwood
Hi Jed, I have d/l'd several papers using WIE 7, and there was no problem. Norman - Original Message - From: "Jed Rothwell" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Monday, April 02, 2007 9:34 PM Subject: [Vo]: Possible problem with LENR-CANR. Please check. I use mainly the Firefox browser vers

Re: [Vo]: Nuclear power plant scandals in Japan

2007-04-02 Thread Jed Rothwell
This is astounding. The Japanese version of the Yomiuri article includes some details not translated into English, which are even worse. Japanese text here: http://www.yomiuri.co.jp/national/news/20070330it12.htm Last para, translated by me: "Included in the 306 incidents listed in the report

Re: [Vo]: Nuclear power plant scandals in Japan

2007-04-02 Thread Jed Rothwell
Ah. The story has progressed since I last heard about it. They have now revealed 97 incidents at nuclear power plants, 128 incidents at thermal (fossil fuel) plants, and 81 at hydroelectric plants. Those power company managers have been busy little bees all these years. Here are some recent rep

[Vo]: Nuclear power plant scandals in Japan

2007-04-02 Thread Jed Rothwell
In recent weeks, Japanese television and newspapers have reported that over the past 29 years there have been as many as 97 accidents and near-accidents at 12 Japanese nuclear power plants that were covered up. The most severe of these were criticality accidents that occurred when the control r

Re: [Vo]: Biofuel Bonanza

2007-04-02 Thread leaking pen
True, however, in terms of weather patterns, a small temperature over a large area has more effect than large but concentrated. see el nino. On 4/2/07, Jed Rothwell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: leaking pen wrote: >Also, large ponds that are heated... that waste heat goes straight >up, and will

Re: [Vo]: Possible problem with LENR-CANR. Please check.

2007-04-02 Thread Edmund Storms
Since you mention this problem, I would like to remind those who own a PC that all of these problems can be eliminated by getting an iMac that runs both system OS-X and Windows. The Mac can be used on the internet with Netscape, which avoids most of the nasties and the Windows version can be us

Re: [Vo]: Biofuel Bonanza

2007-04-02 Thread Jed Rothwell
leaking pen wrote: Also, large ponds that are heated... that waste heat goes straight up, and will change weather patterns. Well, we are only talking about doing this with waste heat from generators, and that already goes straight up. It is mostly released in the form of steam from the lar

[Vo]: Re: Possible problem with LENR-CANR. Please check.

2007-04-02 Thread Nick Palmer
Jed, I just test downloaded a paper by Ed Storms and another by Schwinger both usng "save target as" and directly opening them in IE ver 7.0.5730. No problem - no messages like yours.

Re: [Vo]: Biofuel Bonanza

2007-04-02 Thread leaking pen
not in all of the us. a lot of empty ground is here in the southwest, and algae will grow year round. Also, large ponds that are heated... that waste heat goes straight up, and will change wehather patterns. On 4/2/07, Jed Rothwell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Jones Beene wrote: >That is an a

Re: [Vo]: Possible problem with LENR-CANR. Please check. CANCEL

2007-04-02 Thread Jed Rothwell
Cancel alarm. Reset. It seems to happen with any Acrobat file, anywhere on the web. It must be an interaction with Internet Explorer and PDF Plus! IE is a can of worms. - Jed

[Vo]: Possible problem with LENR-CANR. Please check.

2007-04-02 Thread Jed Rothwell
I use mainly the Firefox browser version 2.0.0.3. I recently installed Windows Internet Explorer 7, which is an abomination. I need to use occasionally for websites that do not work otherwise. Just now I tried to download a paper from LENR-CANR.org. It gave me the following message: "This web

Re: [Vo]: Biofuel Bonanza

2007-04-02 Thread Jed Rothwell
Frederick Sparber wrote: > As soon as we get > back of the picture and stop polluting the water, we should also stop > harvesting the stuff. > Yes, otherwise it ends up in the ocean and rots. If so, that is what it has been doing for millions of years, and that's what it is "supposed" to do.

Re: [Vo]: Biofuel Bonanza

2007-04-02 Thread Frederick Sparber
Jed Rothwell wrote. > > > Frederick Sparber wrote: > > >Don't leave out waste heat from nuclear power plants heating algae ponds, > >Jones. Plenty of "sequestered" CO2 to pipe to them, and it would > >help reduce cooling tower water usage, too. > > Where is "sequestered" CO2 near a nuclear plant?

Re: [Vo]: Biofuel Bonanza

2007-04-02 Thread Frederick Sparber
Jed Rothwell wrote. > > Frederick Sparber wrote: > > >Pollution, Bloom, or not, Jed, all of the water from watershed runoff > >contains algae. > > Yes. Way too much. We should be trying to reduce that. > > > >Figure out how much algae is available per unit volume after you've > >allowed for feedin

Re: [Vo]: Congress seeks documents in Purdue cold-fusion probe

2007-04-02 Thread Jed Rothwell
Edmund Storms wrote: This makes no sense at all. The sonofusion work has no hope of being practical and the issue of reproducibility is trivial. Why would Congress get involved? If the oil industry were worried about cold fusion . . . I do not think this has anything to do with the oil indust

Re: [Vo]: Biofuel Bonanza

2007-04-02 Thread Jed Rothwell
Frederick Sparber wrote: Don't leave out waste heat from nuclear power plants heating algae ponds, Jones. Plenty of "sequestered" CO2 to pipe to them, and it would help reduce cooling tower water usage, too. Where is "sequestered" CO2 near a nuclear plant? As I said, they build these things

Re: [Vo]: Biofuel Bonanza

2007-04-02 Thread Jed Rothwell
Frederick Sparber wrote: Pollution, Bloom, or not, Jed, all of the water from watershed runoff contains algae. Yes. Way too much. We should be trying to reduce that. Figure out how much algae is available per unit volume after you've allowed for feeding aquatic life and available natural pl

Re: [Vo]: Biofuel Bonanza

2007-04-02 Thread Frederick Sparber
Jones Beene wrote. > > > Jed Rothwell wrote: > > > As I said in a previous message, my remarks only apply to plantlife > > grown outdoors in North America. I said: "Growing algae in tanks is > > another matter." > > > > That is an artificial distinction. You definitely do NOT need, nor even > w

Re: [Vo]: Congress seeks documents in Purdue cold-fusion probe

2007-04-02 Thread Edmund Storms
This makes no sense at all. The sonofusion work has no hope of being practical and the issue of reproducibility is trivial. Why would Congress get involved? If the oil industry were worried about cold fusion, many methods much closer to a practical device than this one are being investigated. W

Re: [Vo]: Biofuel Bonanza

2007-04-02 Thread Frederick Sparber
Pollution, Bloom, or not, Jed, all of the water from watershed runoff contains algae. Figure out how much algae is available per unit volume after you've allowed for feeding aquatic life and available natural plant nutrients. Cost effective harvesting using stream (gravity) flow since maximum prod

[Vo]: Congress seeks documents in Purdue cold-fusion probe

2007-04-02 Thread Jed Rothwell
Here is an AP story describing the latest attempt to bully cold fusion researchers. I suspect someone like Robert Park is behind this. - Jed - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Congress seeks documents in Purdue cold-fusion probe Associated Press INDIANAPOLIS – Purdue University has become the

[Vo]: 41% efficient solar cells

2007-04-02 Thread Jed Rothwell
I wrote: However, if you want to tap solar energy, I think it would be more efficient and cost-effective to make a 620 km^2 solar-electric generator plant collection space. This is ~20% efficient, so it would be equivalent to ~8 U.S. nuclear plants. In December 2006, Boeing-Spectrolab announ

Re: [Vo]: Biofuel Bonanza

2007-04-02 Thread Jed Rothwell
I wrote: Lake Meade, on the Colorado River, has a surface area of 620 km^2. That's 620,000,000 square meters. It is arid, and solar energy reaching the ground in North America arid places is about 500 W at peak, or 1.5 kWh/m^2/day. I believe natural algae photosynthesis efficiency is . . . w

Re: [Vo]: Biofuel Bonanza

2007-04-02 Thread Jed Rothwell
Jones Beene wrote: That is an artificial distinction. You definitely do NOT need, nor even want "tanks". There are tanks in most of the prototypes now on line, such as this one: http://www.treehugger.com/files/2006/08/worlds_first_ca.php In fact there are already plans and suggestions from

Re: [Vo]: Biofuel Bonanza

2007-04-02 Thread Jed Rothwell
Frederick Sparber wrote: Jones Beene did a Google satellite view of the area where the Colorado River enters the Gulf of California last year. Let me amend that: my statement applied to plant life grown outdoors on land in North America, not in water. However, the huge algae blooms in water

Re: [Vo]: Biofuel Bonanza

2007-04-02 Thread Jones Beene
Jed Rothwell wrote: As I said in a previous message, my remarks only apply to plantlife grown outdoors in North America. I said: "Growing algae in tanks is another matter." That is an artificial distinction. You definitely do NOT need, nor even want "tanks". In fact there are already pla

Re: [Vo]: Biofuel Bonanza

2007-04-02 Thread Frederick Sparber
Jones Beene wrote. > > > Fred, > > ... chances are, the biofuel skeptic will chose to opine that > "Albuquerque" must be on Mars, since earthlings without a spell-checker > could never get there from here > Not hard to find on a map of Bernalillio County NM, Jones, once you figure out how to spe

Re: [Vo]: Biofuel Bonanza

2007-04-02 Thread Frederick Sparber
Plenty of available nitrogen (NOx - SOx) and mineral ash from coal-fired power plants, plus recycle of potassium and phosphate and iron etc., from burning of the algae residues, Steven. Fred - Original Message - From: Steven Vincent Johnson To: vortex-l@eskimo.com Sent: 4/2/2007 8:57:3

Re: [Vo]: Biofuel Bonanza

2007-04-02 Thread Frederick Sparber
Jed Rothwell wrote. > > To: > Date: 4/2/2007 8:47:38 AM > Subject: Re: [Vo]: Biofuel Bonanza > > Frederick Sparber wrote, in a message about algae: > > >Jones Beene wrote: > > > >Advanced biofuels, on the other hand, like butanol and algoil are > >here to stay. > > > > > Sure, as soon as we can g

Re: [Vo]: Biofuel Bonanza

2007-04-02 Thread Steven Vincent Johnson
Can someone help clarify: What is the algae's food source? Surely there's more to this recycling equation than just supplying the little critters CO2. How difficult or easy will it be to supply all the required nutrients to make an economical go of this? Most of these articles seem to skim ove

Re: [Vo]: Biofuel Bonanza

2007-04-02 Thread Jed Rothwell
Frederick Sparber wrote, in a message about algae: Jones Beene wrote: Advanced biofuels, on the other hand, like butanol and algoil are here to stay. > Sure, as soon as we can grow them on Mars, I suppose. Here on planet Earth we barely have enough room to grow enough food. As I said in a

Re: [Vo]: Biofuel Bonanza

2007-04-02 Thread Jones Beene
Fred, ... chances are, the biofuel skeptic will chose to opine that "Albuquerque" must be on Mars, since earthlings without a spell-checker could never get there from here

[Vo]: Article: Algae eyed as next biofuel source by '08

2007-04-02 Thread Steven Vincent Johnson
SUBJECT: Article - Algae eyed as next biofuel source by '08 The following article ought to bring warm cockles to Jones' heart. See: http://www.thenewstoday.info/2007/04/02/algae.eyed.as.next.biofuel.source.in.rp.by.08.html http://tinyurl.com/2lbcnf Regards, Steven Vincent Johnson www.OrionWork

[Vo]: ORMES questions

2007-04-02 Thread thomas malloy
I had a serendipitous event last Thursday night. I met this Chem E. He was talking about remediating the waste out of a nickle mine. I mentioned ghost gold, he replied, ORMES. I mentioned Joe Champion's theories, he mentioned LENR. He knows about BLP too. I wanted to discuss the matter further

[Vo]: Attacks against cold fusion published

2007-04-02 Thread Jed Rothwell
The usual garbage. See: http://www.chicagotribune.com/business/chi-0703300070mar30,1,1977.story?ctrack=1&cset=true I wrote to the author. A short version of this was published by the Salt Lake Tribune, which has published previous attacks: http://www.sltrib.com/News/ci_5569842 I added a com

[Vo]: Fw: [Vo]: Biofuel Bonanza

2007-04-02 Thread R.C.Macaulay
When reading these reports I notice "press release" at the end. Why do I get a mental picture of a cow with several "sucklins" feeding off her in a pasture around Menlo Park or Cambridge? Maybe it's because our local coal fired power plant ( Sam Seymour plant,one of 25 of the worse in USA

Re: [Vo]: Biofuel Bonanza

2007-04-02 Thread Frederick Sparber
http://www.aps.com/general_info/newsrelease/newsreleases/NewsRelease_358.html November 30, 2006 Phoenix, AZ - Algae bioreactor system connected directly to smokestack of APS' Redhawk 1,040 megawatt power plant recycles greenhouse gases into renewable biofuels PHOENIX, Ariz. and Cambridge Mas

Re: [Vo]: Biofuel Bonanza

2007-04-02 Thread Frederick Sparber
Jones Beene wrote: Advanced biofuels, on the other hand, like butanol and algoil are here to stay. > Sure, as soon as we can grow them on Mars, I suppose. Here on planet Earth we > barely have enough room to grow enough food. > > - Jed http://www.pnm.com/news/2006/073106_biomass.htm "Albuqu

[Vo]: Re: Langmuir Missed Cold Fusion Adatoms

2007-04-02 Thread Frederick Sparber
Had Langmuir been familiar with D2-Palladium in 1932, who knows? He's all around it in this 1932 (39 page pdf) lecture on surface phenomena http://nobelprize.org/nobel_prizes/chemistry/laureates/1932/langmuir-lecture.pdf Fred