Re: [Vo]:A sound way to turn heat into electricity

2007-06-15 Thread Michael Foster
Harry Veeder wrote: A sound way to turn heat into electricity http://forum.physorg.com/index.php?showtopic=15401 University of Utah physicist Orest Symko holds a match to a small heat engine that produces a high-pitched tone by converting heat into sound. Symko's research team is

Re: [VO]: Future energy predictions

2007-06-15 Thread Wesley Bruce
R.C.Macaulay wrote: Howdy Vorts, With all the energy info rhetoric eminating out of D.C. and news sources do you sense the public is expecting too much from the energy industry? What is your predicted time line for the first really serious bump in the road ? Richard I'm an Aussy

Re: [VO]: Future energy predictions

2007-06-15 Thread Horace Heffner
On Jun 14, 2007, at 9:04 PM, Robin van Spaandonk wrote: (e) Iran gets the bomb, or one is used, followed by nuclear warfare, I doubt that Iran would be that stupid. First they know as well as anyone else roughly what Israel has (not to mention that the US is just itching for an

Re: [VO]: Future energy predictions

2007-06-15 Thread Robin van Spaandonk
In reply to Wesley Bruce's message of Fri, 15 Jun 2007 17:31:44 +1000: Hi, [snip] I'm an Aussy so D.C. is almost irrelevant and has been for some years DC will likely never be irrelevant. The US still the worlds richest market, and most powerful nation. now. We are looking at some major

Re: [VO]: Future energy predictions

2007-06-15 Thread Robin van Spaandonk
In reply to Horace Heffner's message of Fri, 15 Jun 2007 00:03:46 -0800: Hi, [snip] It eliminates the need for occupation. What does this mean? Regards, Horace Heffner Regards, Robin van Spaandonk The shrub is a plant.

Re: [VO]: Future energy predictions

2007-06-15 Thread Horace Heffner
On Jun 15, 2007, at 12:39 AM, Robin van Spaandonk wrote: In reply to Horace Heffner's message of Fri, 15 Jun 2007 00:03:46 -0800: Hi, [snip] It eliminates the need for occupation. What does this mean? It means if you wipe out the population you don't need to occupy the country with

Re: [VO]: Future energy predictions

2007-06-15 Thread Robin van Spaandonk
In reply to Horace Heffner's message of Fri, 15 Jun 2007 00:46:31 -0800: Hi, [snip] On Jun 15, 2007, at 12:39 AM, Robin van Spaandonk wrote: In reply to Horace Heffner's message of Fri, 15 Jun 2007 00:03:46 -0800: Hi, [snip] It eliminates the need for occupation. What does this mean?

Re: [VO]: Future energy predictions

2007-06-15 Thread Horace Heffner
On Jun 15, 2007, at 12:58 AM, Robin van Spaandonk wrote: In reply to Horace Heffner's message of Fri, 15 Jun 2007 00:46:31 -0800: Hi, [snip] On Jun 15, 2007, at 12:39 AM, Robin van Spaandonk wrote: In reply to Horace Heffner's message of Fri, 15 Jun 2007 00:03:46 -0800: Hi, [snip] It

RE: [Vo]:A sound way to turn heat into electricity

2007-06-15 Thread Stiffler Scientific
Far from a new idea indeed, what is new is that it is moving closer to being a viable technology. A thermo acoustic refer has been developed and tested in HOT undeveloped parts of the world and found to work. The device is placed in the sun during the day and it produces ice, then it is moved

RE: [Vo]:A sound way to turn heat into electricity

2007-06-15 Thread Stiffler Scientific
Harry, I cut most of your posting out but left the meat. I am surprised it took so long for this to get to vortex and I was going to post out work but thought there may be no real interest. This is a great device and easy to build (The Prime Mover) portion and either solar or resistance or

Re: [Vo]:OT: Duality: pas de deux

2007-06-15 Thread Horace Heffner
On Jun 15, 2007, at 6:17 AM, OrionWorks wrote: Yes, indeed. Grist for the philosophers. ...and I have no definitive answer, other than to reply with the tried and true answer of 42. As good an answer as I have thus far. I have to wonder at the prospect of a partial existence outside the

Re: [Vo]:OT: Duality: pas de deux

2007-06-15 Thread OrionWorks
From Horace: Yes, indeed. Grist for the philosophers. ...and I have no definitive answer, other than to reply with the tried and true answer of 42. As good an answer as I have thus far. I have to wonder at the prospect of a partial existence outside the body though, a part of a

RE: [Vo]:A sound way to turn heat into electricity

2007-06-15 Thread Stiffler Scientific
Paul, Your idea is viable if we had the ability to heterodyne down from the Thz range with an efficiency that would make sense in recovered useable energy. It is becoming more difficult than every to know what has been and is being researched due to the issue of now 'We Must Sell' our research

Re: [Vo]:A sound way to turn heat into electricity

2007-06-15 Thread Paul Lowrance
Hi Stiffler, On a macro scale all matter contains a sea of temperature gradients. View two 15 cent millimeter size thermistors separated by say 1 inch and you'll clear see temperature gradients any place on Earth. Such gradients is usable energy, even with old heat-electricity technology.

[Vo]:Good news on the Volt

2007-06-15 Thread Horace Heffner
See http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news? pid=20601087sid=abR.mR3rTSuQrefer=home Regards, Horace Heffner

Re: [Vo]:wassup wid D2 ?

2007-06-15 Thread Paul Lowrance
Could everyone please set their computer date? Steven Krivit's email/post has been lurking at the top of my email list for ~ a week and will continue to stay they until 7/4/2007, as his computer is over one month ahead! Stiffler Scientific clock is only ~ half hour ahead of time. Thanks,

RE: [Vo]:wassup wid D2 ?

2007-06-15 Thread Stiffler Scientific
Stiffler Scientific computer time is -3 minutes of WWVH so where are you seeing ~ 1/2 hour??? -Original Message- From: Paul Lowrance [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, June 15, 2007 1:35 PM To: vortex-l@eskimo.com Subject: Re: [Vo]:wassup wid D2 ? Could everyone please set their

Re: [Vo]:wassup wid D2 ?

2007-06-15 Thread Paul Lowrance
The reason I mentioned your name was because your emails are staying on top of the list ~half hour even though emails from other people arrive after yours. I set my computer to the live atomic clock in Denver, CO, USA. If anyone wants to check their clocks:

RE: [Vo]:wassup wid D2 ?

2007-06-15 Thread Stiffler Scientific
All fine and good we sync when 'Bill Gates' product gets around to it from 'time-a.timefreq.bldrdoc.gov' and like I said when I read your post we were -3 minutes of the same clock. I did a manual sync and it is now right on the money... -Original Message- From: Paul Lowrance

Re: [Vo]:wassup wid D2 ?

2007-06-15 Thread Paul Lowrance
Good. The main issue is with Steven Krivit's who's clock is ~ a month ahead. Paul Stiffler Scientific wrote: All fine and good we sync when 'Bill Gates' product gets around to it from 'time-a.timefreq.bldrdoc.gov' and like I said when I read your post we were -3 minutes of the same clock. I

Re: [VO]: Future energy predictions

2007-06-15 Thread Robin van Spaandonk
In reply to Horace Heffner's message of Fri, 15 Jun 2007 01:25:03 -0800: Hi, [snip] It eliminates the need for occupation. What does this mean? It means if you wipe out the population you don't need to occupy the country with massive amounts of troops. If you drop enough nukes to wipe out

Re: [VO]: Future energy predictions

2007-06-15 Thread Horace Heffner
On Jun 15, 2007, at 3:18 PM, Robin van Spaandonk wrote: And your point regarding occupation is? I only asked what it meant, I didn't say you were wrong. I don't disagree with you that it would have that result. I do however disagree with the ethics, the legality, and with the original

Re: [VO]: Future energy predictions

2007-06-15 Thread Harry Veeder
On 15/6/2007 7:18 PM, Horace Heffner wrote: My point was not about ethics at all though, merely that pursuit of nuclear weapons capability is a *stupid* strategy for a country like Iran. It is unnerving and menacing, but it is no more or less stupid than the decision of some other nation's

Re: [VO]: Future energy predictions

2007-06-15 Thread Robin van Spaandonk
In reply to Horace Heffner's message of Fri, 15 Jun 2007 16:18:36 -0800: Hi, [snip] My point was not about ethics at all though, merely that pursuit of nuclear weapons capability is a *stupid* strategy for a country like Iran. But how do you know they are pursuing nuclear weapons? All I

[Vo]:OT: LIE BIG

2007-06-15 Thread Harry Veeder
it was Goebbels who invented and perfected the technique of the Big Lie, This is where one must have the nerve to LIE BIG and STICK TO IT; to deliver colossal falsehoods without batting an eyelash. The best description in the context of Goebbels' job of propping up the dictatorship of Hitler,