[Vo]:ITER Budget Slashed

2008-01-11 Thread Terry Blanton
By 93.3%: http://cosmiclog.msnbc.msn.com/archive/2008/01/07/557301.aspx Is Congress coming to their senses? Terry

[Vo]:Re: ITER Budget Slashed

2008-01-11 Thread Michel Jullian
It has been suggested on another list that they were convinced by the 2006 posthumous Science article by William Parkins mirrored by NET here: "[Hot] Fusion Power: Will It Ever Come?" http://www.newenergytimes.com/Inthenews/2006/SCIENCE-FusionPower.htm Quote: "Scaling of the construction costs

Re: [Vo]:Re: Photos of Guy Negre's compressed air car on CNET News.com

2008-01-11 Thread Jed Rothwell
Michel Jullian wrote: I understood the sentence as referring to some pneumatic version of regenerative braking, but admittedly it was unclear. Ah, that does make sense. I shouldn't have jumped to conclusions. When the Prius came out, many newspaper reports said it "gets energy from braking.

Re: [Vo]:Nothing on

2008-01-11 Thread Jed Rothwell
OrionWorks wrote: Setting my personal conspiratorial opinions aside, why would they remove Beaudette's book but not Ed Storms? They deleted Beaudette and Krivit because they claim these books are "self published." There was a long, tedious discussion of this in the talk section. I contribute

[Vo]:Re: Photos of Guy Negre's compressed air car on CNET News.com

2008-01-11 Thread Michel Jullian
I understood the sentence as referring to some pneumatic version of regenerative braking, but admittedly it was unclear. What amazes me with this compressed air energy storage thing is that it is so dead simple, isn't there a catch somewhere? Let's see how much energy they store in their 300

Re: [Vo]:Re: Photos of Guy Negre's compressed air car on CNET News.com

2008-01-11 Thread Horace Heffner
On Jan 11, 2008, at 7:56 AM, Michel Jullian wrote: I understood the sentence as referring to some pneumatic version of regenerative braking, but admittedly it was unclear. What amazes me with this compressed air energy storage thing is that it is so dead simple, isn't there a catch somewh

Re: [Vo]:Re: Photos of Guy Negre's compressed air car on CNET News.com

2008-01-11 Thread Robin van Spaandonk
In reply to Michel Jullian's message of Fri, 11 Jan 2008 17:56:31 +0100: Hi, [snip] >I understood the sentence as referring to some pneumatic version of >regenerative braking, but >admittedly it was unclear. > >What amazes me with this compressed air energy storage thing is that it is so >dead

Re: [Vo]:Re: Photos of Guy Negre's compressed air car on CNET News.com

2008-01-11 Thread OrionWorks
Would it be conceivable to incorporate an alternative or additional energy source, like a liquid nitrogen tank, the idea being to use LN for extended trips. I think Brady was working on a LN engine. Have no idea as to how well that project is going. It's my understanding LN is relatively cheap to

[Vo]:Re: Photos of Guy Negre's compressed air car on CNET News.com

2008-01-11 Thread Michel Jullian
Horace we can't be right, or the whole thing would have to be a gross scam. This serious looking resource here: http://www.efcf.com/reports/E14.pdf seems to agree reasonably with Wikipedia's 12kWh: "At 20°C a 300 Liter tank filled with air at 300 bar carries 51 MJ of energy." That's 51000 kW s

Re: [Vo]:Re: Photos of Guy Negre's compressed air car on CNET News.com

2008-01-11 Thread Terry Blanton
Your sig files are usually a political statement. Have you changed over to Monty Python (In search of the holy grail: "Bring me a shrubbery! Nik! Nik!") ? Terry > Robin van Spaandonk > > The shrub is a plant. > >

[Vo]:Green Hyperbole and Guy Negre's compressed air car

2008-01-11 Thread Jones Beene
Since "green-is-in" these days, more so than ever before, it seems that every scam artist in the universe is trying to find his own green-niche in order to capitalize on the situation. But I do not think this compressed air car of Guy Negre is necessarily one of them. Yet the numbers speak for th

Re: [Vo]:Continued Adventures in Celestial Mechanics

2008-01-11 Thread thomas malloy
Horace Heffner wrote: On Jan 9, 2008, at 8:51 AM, OrionWorks wrote: Also, wouldn't a sizable macro-scale amount of mirror matter appear to weigh less than predicted? In fact If I understand this correctly if a sample was composed more than 50 percent (volume-wise) of mirror matter wouldn't i

RE: [Vo]:Re: Photos of Guy Negre's compressed air car on CNET News.com

2008-01-11 Thread Jeff Fink
Ten years ago I tinkered together a 20 ft long replica of a Mississippi River sternwheeler, only it runs on compressed air instead of steam. It uses a portable air tank at 65 psi driving twin 2" bore by 6" stroke air cylinders. When the engine driving the compressor quits, I have a range of abou

Re: [Vo]:The OC Magnetic Perpetual Motion Machine

2008-01-11 Thread Terry Blanton
FWIW, Al is reporting over 7 hours of continuous run of his magnetic motor over in the Steorn forum. Replications are close to realization. Terry

Re: [Vo]:Heisenberg and Mills

2008-01-11 Thread Robin van Spaandonk
In reply to Horace Heffner's message of Wed, 9 Jan 2008 09:11:59 -0900: Hi, [snip] >> This may not be a "change" in it's nature at all. It may *be* it's >> nature. > > >By change in nature I mean that free electrons and electrons in >ordinary orbitals don't act like that. What changes their n

Re: [Vo]:The OC Magnetic Perpetual Motion Machine

2008-01-11 Thread Jed Rothwell
Terry Blanton wrote: >FWIW, Al is reporting over 7 hours of continuous run of his magnetic >motor over in the Steorn forum. Replications are close to >realization. Seven hours? As Chris Tinsley used to say, that narrows it down to two possibilities: real, or fraud. No middle ground there. Some

Re: [Vo]:Re: Photos of Guy Negre's compressed air car on CNET News.com

2008-01-11 Thread Robin van Spaandonk
In reply to Michel Jullian's message of Fri, 11 Jan 2008 23:34:27 +0100: Hi, [snip] >I just saw Robin's explanation for the discrepancy (heat taken from ambient >air during expansion, >which produces cold air as is well know), it makes sense to me. It's quite >remarkable that 9 kWh out >of the

Re: [Vo]:Re: Photos of Guy Negre's compressed air car on CNET News.com

2008-01-11 Thread Robin van Spaandonk
In reply to Michel Jullian's message of Fri, 11 Jan 2008 23:34:27 +0100: Hi, [snip] > It would also mean that the car's range could be >considerably reduced in very cold weather. [snip] Not necessarily. If the air in the tank was also compressed when the external temperature was the just as cold

Re: [Vo]:The OC Magnetic Perpetual Motion Machine

2008-01-11 Thread Robin van Spaandonk
In reply to Jed Rothwell's message of Fri, 11 Jan 2008 21:50:01 -0500 (GMT-05:00): Hi, [snip] >Terry Blanton wrote: > >>FWIW, Al is reporting over 7 hours of continuous run of his magnetic >>motor over in the Steorn forum. Replications are close to >>realization. > >Seven hours? As Chris Tinsley

Re: [Vo]:Re: ITER Budget Slashed

2008-01-11 Thread Standing Bear
On Friday 11 January 2008 09:35, Michel Jullian wrote: > It has been suggested on another list that they were convinced by the 2006 posthumous Science > article by William Parkins mirrored by NET here: > > "[Hot] Fusion Power: Will It Ever Come?" > http://www.newenergytimes.com/Inthenews/2006/SC

RE: [Vo]:The OC Magnetic Perpetual Motion Machine

2008-01-11 Thread Lawrence de Bivort
Does the force of a magnet 'run down' as it is used? That is, does it lose internal alignment as a result of its countering interaction with other magnetic bodies? Lawry -Original Message- From: Terry Blanton [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, January 11, 2008 9:08 PM To: vortex-l