Re: [Vo]:Perspective on Heat Vs. Everything Else

2009-07-24 Thread Horace Heffner
On Jul 23, 2009, at 7:46 PM, mix...@bigpond.com wrote: Perhaps rapid transport of H through the material is necessary, to increase the likelihood that a proton will tunnel into a host atom, where it may then borrow an electron from the host to become a sub-quantum atom? High

Re: [Vo]:Perspective on Heat Vs. Everything Else

2009-07-24 Thread Horace Heffner
On Jul 23, 2009, at 7:46 PM, mix...@bigpond.com wrote: Perhaps rapid transport of H through the material is necessary, to increase the likelihood that a proton will tunnel into a host atom, where it may then borrow an electron from the host to become a sub-quantum atom? It seems to me

Re: [Vo]:Hydrino represents Lorentz contraction in the opposite direction from event horizon

2009-07-24 Thread Nick Palmer
I know Horace and Steven have been commenting on this topic critically but I kind of got what Frank was on about the first time (in amongst the confusing word salad). The event horizon stuff escapes me... Here is (I think) a testable hypothesis that would offer support to this time dilation

Re: FW: [Vo]:Hydrino represents Lorentz contraction in the opposite direction from event horizon

2009-07-24 Thread Stephen A. Lawrence
Thanks for the extensive response -- it has taken me a while to go through it, and I'm sure I didn't do it all justice! Frank wrote: Stephen, Snip--- The hydrino radius between the nucleus and orbital has a temporal rise and spatial run [snip] Let's stop right there. The

RE: [Vo]:Hydrino represents Lorentz contraction in the opposite direction from event horizon

2009-07-24 Thread Mark Iverson
Stephen wrote: Let's stop right there. The 'present', for any observer, has zero thickness along that observer's time axis. What is zero thickness for a human could be a lifetime at the subatomic level... It all depends on what scale you're talking about... And don't mix scales! -Mark

[Vo]:Focardi claims very different from Mills and others

2009-07-24 Thread Jed Rothwell
Even if I am wrong and Focardi's results are not as iffy as I suspect, we still need to see a solid independent replication, because these results are very different from other claims. Compare them to the original Mills claims that were published about the time Focardi et al. got to work:

Re: FW: [Vo]:Hydrino represents Lorentz contraction in the opposite direction from event horizon

2009-07-24 Thread Stephen A. Lawrence
Frank: Please keep in mind that the rotation in the Lorentz transform is hyperbolic, not circular. A circular rotation has the form | cos(theta) sin(theta) | | -sin(theta) cos(theta) | and it maps circles centered on the origin into other circles centered on the origin. It appears to

RE: [Vo]:Hydrino represents Lorentz contraction in the opposite direction from event horizon

2009-07-24 Thread Jones Beene
Yes, but no doubt Nick is a fan of Lost and understand the intricacies of http://lostpedia.wikia.com/wiki/Physics Serious, folks - Frank has a fascinating alternative to Mills, and it is a bit unfair to expect from him a perfectly-formed and error-free theory at this point in time - even in

RE: [Vo]:Focardi claims very different from Mills and others

2009-07-24 Thread Jones Beene
-Original Message- From: Jed Rothwell Even if I am wrong and Focardi's results are not as iffy as I suspect, we still need to see a solid independent replication, because these results are very different from ... Mills -- electrolysis; gigantic Ni surface area; very low power

RE: [Vo]:Focardi claims very different from Mills and others

2009-07-24 Thread Jed Rothwell
Jones Beene wrote: ** Yes - this is the key point, and why it may be impossible to replicate without knowing every minute detail about that rod. Italian researchers tell me that Focardi et al. have not been open or cooperative, but many details about the rod are known. People have examined

Re: [Vo]:Hydrino represents Lorentz contraction in the opposite direction from event horizon

2009-07-24 Thread Stephen A. Lawrence
Stephen A. Lawrence wrote: Jones Beene wrote: However, getting a massive charged particle to transverse a Casimir gap would be difficult Akshully How about, forget the massive bit, just substitute tritium oxide for deuterium oxide and load any-old-material with Casimir sized

RE: [Vo]:Hydrino represents Lorentz contraction in the opposite direction from event horizon

2009-07-24 Thread Roarty, Francis X
Steven, Been briefly auditing when work allows but this is a quickie... I believe time speeds up from our perspective accounting for the amount of catalytic action that occurs (if relativistic then reactants are unaware of the acceleration and actually put in all those extra hours from

[Vo]:Hydrinos, Lorentz contraction, and event horizon stuff.

2009-07-24 Thread OrionWorks
Strictly approaching this question from a layman's POV: Is it conceivable to speculate that an unknown component, one that is possibly bound to the effects of time dilation play an integral role in determining the rate of decay in radioactive nucleus, specifically when an atom decides to decay?

Re: [Vo]:Hydrinos, Lorentz contraction, and event horizon stuff.

2009-07-24 Thread Terry Blanton
Maybe these help: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nuclear_decay http://www.eas.asu.edu/~holbert/eee460/decay.html Meow! Terry On Fri, Jul 24, 2009 at 2:11 PM, OrionWorkssvj.orionwo...@gmail.com wrote: Strictly approaching this question from a layman's POV: Is it conceivable to speculate that

RE: [Vo]:Hydrinos, Lorentz contraction, and event horizon stuff.

2009-07-24 Thread Frank Roarty
I agree a small amount of rapidly decaying material trapped in a Casimir cavity should decay measurably faster if the theory has legs. -Original Message- From: OrionWorks [mailto:svj.orionwo...@gmail.com] Sent: Friday, July 24, 2009 3:11 PM To: vortex-l Subject: [Vo]:Hydrinos, Lorentz

[Vo]:Dog bites man. Scientists tend to be conformists.

2009-07-24 Thread Jed Rothwell
Ho-hum news: http://tierneylab.blogs.nytimes.com/2009/07/23/researcher-condemns-conformity-among-his-peers - Jed

Re: [Vo]:Dog bites man. Scientists tend to be conformists.

2009-07-24 Thread Steven Krivit
Jed - I'm waiting for the man bites dog story. At 02:34 PM 7/24/2009, you wrote: Ho-hum news: http://tierneylab.blogs.nytimes.com/2009/07/23/researcher-condemns-conformity-among-his-peers - Jed

Re: [Vo]:Dog bites man. Scientists tend to be conformists.

2009-07-24 Thread John Berry
You mean a man biting dog story surely? On Sat, Jul 25, 2009 at 11:54 AM, Steven Krivit stev...@newenergytimes.comwrote: Jed - I'm waiting for the man bites dog story. At 02:34 PM 7/24/2009, you wrote: Ho-hum news:

Re: [Vo]:Perspective on Heat Vs. Everything Else

2009-07-24 Thread mixent
In reply to Horace Heffner's message of Fri, 24 Jul 2009 01:43:40 -0800: Hi Horace, [snip] It seems to me that such a tunneling event would be far more likely if the hydrogen nucleus tunneled into the host nucleus bringing along it's own electron as extra baggage. I think the prospects of

[Vo]:The Kiplinger Letter, July 24, 2009 - on ENERGY

2009-07-24 Thread OrionWorks
The Kiplinger Letter, July 24, 2009 had the following to say on the topic of ENERGY: - Ever heard of thorium power? You will. The first nuclear reactor fueled by thorium will be built in about five years, with more to come. Thorium has a lot of practical advantages over the more