Re: [Vo]:Transporter Malfunction

2010-03-17 Thread mixent
In reply to Terry Blanton's message of Fri, 12 Mar 2010 18:39:17 -0500: Hi, [snip] >http://www.ghosttheory.com/2010/03/09/paris-car-crash-occupants-dissappeared-momentarily > >"This is just bizarre. I really would not think much of news like this >one, but the fact that multiple witnesses were say

Re: [Vo]:Focardi and Rossi patent

2010-03-17 Thread mixent
In reply to Jed Rothwell's message of Tue, 16 Mar 2010 14:52:14 -0400: Hi, [snip] >the same mass can produce. (I believe Mills once told me the upper >limit based on his theory is ~100,000 times ordinary chemistry, but >perhaps a hydrino-theory aficionado can verify that.) The maximum he can th

Re: [Vo]:OU demonstrated ( with no secrets)

2010-03-17 Thread mixent
In reply to Harry Veeder's message of Tue, 16 Mar 2010 18:09:15 -0700 (PDT): Hi, [snip] > > >video of Self Runner >(a variation of the Solid state generator) > >http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_sicsnUq_a4 He states that it must be OU because the output voltage goes above the battery voltage. How

Re: [Vo]:add on: OU demonstrated ( with no secrets)

2010-03-17 Thread Harry Veeder
- Original Message > From: Stephen A. Lawrence > To: vortex-l@eskimo.com > Sent: Wed, March 17, 2010 2:58:11 PM > Subject: Re: [Vo]:add on: OU demonstrated ( with no secrets) Even with > the battery hooked up, it would be so easy for the guy to measure current > drain from the batt

Re: [Vo]:add on: OU demonstrated ( with no secrets)

2010-03-17 Thread Harry Veeder
- Original Message > From: Terry Blanton > To: vortex-l@eskimo.com > Sent: Wed, March 17, 2010 7:40:21 PM > Subject: Re: [Vo]:add on: OU demonstrated ( with no secrets) > > On Wed, Mar 17, 2010 at 1:19 PM, Harry Veeder < > ymailto="mailto:hlvee...@yahoo.com"; > href="mailto:hlvee...

Re: [Vo]:add on: OU demonstrated ( with no secrets)

2010-03-17 Thread Terry Blanton
On Wed, Mar 17, 2010 at 1:19 PM, Harry Veeder wrote: > OK. I am just trying to understand what circumstances a voltage > measurement by itself would be sufficient to prove OU. Never. Energy is measured by power expended over time. Electrical power is voltage times current. Voltage transformat

Re: [Vo]:add on: OU demonstrated ( with no secrets)

2010-03-17 Thread Harry Veeder
Could those capacitors hold more energy than the battery if the battery was low on charge at the beginning? Harry __ Yahoo! Canada Toolbar: Search from anywhere on the web, and bookmark your favourite sites. Download it now

Re: [Vo]:add on: OU demonstrated ( with no secrets)

2010-03-17 Thread Jed Rothwell
Stephen A. Lawrence wrote: > Well, something has to drive the circuit. The whole thing will stop > dead otherwise. That would be like expecting a Fleischmann Pons cell > work without first doing electrolysis. No, it wouldn't. It would be like expecting a circuit which produces electricity wit

Re: [Vo]:add on: OU demonstrated ( with no secrets)

2010-03-17 Thread Stephen A. Lawrence
On 03/17/2010 03:14 PM, Jed Rothwell wrote: > Stephen A. Lawrence wrote: > >> So, get rid of the battery -- I mean, *really* get rid of it, disconnect >> the wires at the battery terminals, and carry it a good distance away >> from the experiment -- and show the capacitor still charging itself u

Re: [Vo]:add on: OU demonstrated ( with no secrets)

2010-03-17 Thread Jed Rothwell
Stephen A. Lawrence wrote: So, get rid of the battery -- I mean, *really* get rid of it, disconnect the wires at the battery terminals, and carry it a good distance away from the experiment -- and show the capacitor still charging itself up. Well, something has to drive the circuit. The whole

RE: [Vo]:add on: OU demonstrated ( with no secrets)

2010-03-17 Thread George Holz
Jed wrote: >I assume you mean they should charge up the capacitor first, and then attach it to the pulse generator instead of the battery. Right? >If it stays charged for a long time, that is proof of over-unity operation. That is correct. In order to show overunity all external power sources m

Re: [Vo]:add on: OU demonstrated ( with no secrets)

2010-03-17 Thread Stephen A. Lawrence
On 03/17/2010 02:13 PM, Jed Rothwell wrote: > George Holz wrote: > >> This setup is only interesting if the 12V >> battery is disconnected from the pulse generator. > > I assume you mean they should charge up the capacitor first, and then > attach it to the pulse generator instead of the battery.

RE: [Vo]:add on: OU demonstrated ( with no secrets)

2010-03-17 Thread Jed Rothwell
George Holz wrote: This setup is only interesting if the 12V battery is disconnected from the pulse generator. I assume you mean they should charge up the capacitor first, and then attach it to the pulse generator instead of the battery. Right? If it stays charged for a long time, that is p

RE: [Vo]:add on: OU demonstrated ( with no secrets)

2010-03-17 Thread George Holz
Hi fellow heretics, This setup is only interesting if the 12V battery is disconnected from the pulse generator. It is quite easy to feed a surprising amount of power through the high gate capacitance of a power mosfet and into the connected circuit. I have briefly fooled myself with this type of

Re: [Vo]:add on: OU demonstrated ( with no secrets)

2010-03-17 Thread Harry Veeder
- Original Message > From: Stephen A. Lawrence > To: vortex-l@eskimo.com > Sent: Wed, March 17, 2010 1:03:13 PM > Subject: Re: [Vo]:add on: OU demonstrated ( with no secrets) > > On 03/17/2010 12:26 PM, Harry Veeder wrote: > Maybe he thinks it > is obvious that the energy stored

Re: [Vo]:add on: OU demonstrated ( with no secrets)

2010-03-17 Thread Stephen A. Lawrence
On 03/17/2010 12:26 PM, Harry Veeder wrote: > Maybe he thinks it is obvious that the energy stored in the capacitor > has (or will?) exceed the energy stored in the battery. > HAH! The battery obviously masses more than the caps. (Just look at the relative sizes, and consider for a moment ty

Re: [Vo]:add on: OU demonstrated ( with no secrets)

2010-03-17 Thread Harry Veeder
Maybe he thinks it is obvious that the energy stored in the capacitor has (or will?) exceed the energy stored in the battery. Harry - Original Message > From: OrionWorks - Steven V Johnson > To: vortex-l@eskimo.com > Sent: Wed, March 17, 2010 10:55:10 AM > Subject: Re: [Vo]:add on: OU

Re: [Vo]:OU demonstrated ( with no secrets)

2010-03-17 Thread Harry Veeder
- Original Message > From: Terry Blanton > To: vortex-l@eskimo.com > Sent: Wed, March 17, 2010 11:00:32 AM > Subject: Re: [Vo]:OU demonstrated ( with no secrets) > > On Tue, Mar 16, 2010 at 9:09 PM, Harry Veeder < > ymailto="mailto:hlvee...@yahoo.com"; > href="mailto:hlvee...@yahoo.

Re: [Vo]:OU demonstrated ( with no secrets)

2010-03-17 Thread Terry Blanton
On Tue, Mar 16, 2010 at 9:09 PM, Harry Veeder wrote: > > > video of Self Runner > (a variation of the Solid state generator) He's like an American JL Naudin: http://www.youtube.com/user/gotoluc#p/u T

Re: [Vo]:add on: OU demonstrated ( with no secrets)

2010-03-17 Thread OrionWorks - Steven V Johnson
The demonstration is interesting. However, Mr. Lawrence's aversion to the accuracy of events allegedly being depicted are equally justified – especially when there just happens to be nearby a "big power supply". As the old saying goes, "Fool me once, shame on you. Fool me twice..." I asked Mongo

Re: [Vo]:add on: OU demonstrated ( with no secrets)

2010-03-17 Thread Stephen A. Lawrence
On 03/17/2010 01:37 AM, Harry Veeder wrote: > Listen carefully from 5:30 to 6:00. > He says the 12 volt battery feeds the pulse generator > and then he points to some disconnected clips and says the battery > is not attached. What does he mean? > I don't know. Frankly, the Stiffler "incident