Re: [Vo]:Possible mechanism-Excess Power Reading of ECAT

2011-10-25 Thread peter . heckert
- Original Nachricht Von: Colin Hercus colinher...@gmail.com An: vortex-l@eskimo.com Datum: 25.10.2011 03:54 Betreff: Re: [Vo]:Possible mechanism-Excess Power Reading of ECAT Hi Peter, The primary flow is interesting problem. Rossi states 4g/sec which is close to 15

Re: [Vo]:Possible mechanism-Excess Power Reading of ECAT

2011-10-25 Thread Colin Hercus
Hi Peter, I know Rossi said this but I also know Mats measured a lower rate (0.9g/m) for a period of 6 minutes and I also know they stated the flow rate was increased at 19:08 to cool the reaction but if the pump was already at maximum how could this be done? It's perplexing to have all this

Re: [Vo]:Possible mechanism-Excess Power Reading of ECAT

2011-10-25 Thread peter . heckert
He doesnt care about precision or truth. He always gives the most advantageous answer when he thinks people will believe this or people cant check this. Thats not important for him and he dosnt care much, because this changes nothing for him. I do wait for the outcome of the 1MW experiment. 1

Re: [Vo]:Possible mechanism-Excess Power Reading of ECAT

2011-10-25 Thread Jouni Valkonen
Mats Lewan said that the pump was calibrated before the test and the flow rate was about 13 kg/h. This was not against pressure and as we know from previous tests, flow rate will decrease when pressure is increasing. —Jouni

Re: [Vo]:Possible mechanism-Excess Power Reading of ECAT

2011-10-25 Thread peter . heckert
When its a peristaltic pump the rate should depend on primary pressure. Rossi has the water container below the pump and this creates subpressure and should reduce the rate. The secondary pressure should not influence the rate too much, as long as the hose doesnt leak, because all water that was

[Vo]:Mindless Cold Fusion Critics

2011-10-25 Thread Ron Kita
Greetings Vortex, My only claim to fame was that, I used to attend Temple University Frontier Sciences with the late Dr Gene Mallove, a good friend. According to Gene, he left MIT and formed Infinite Energy when he discovered that MIT researchers were cooking the books against Cold Fusion. I

[Vo]:Ecat Patent website

2011-10-25 Thread Ron Kita
Greetings Vortex, I am not sure IF the website for E-Cat patent was ever mentioned here: http://ecatpatent.com/ Ron Kita, Chiralex

Re: [Vo]:Rossi says he has a European CE mark

2011-10-25 Thread OrionWorks - Steven V Johnson
About the promised videos I think is not a big deal to hire a bounch of fine dressed guys, smiling and shacking hands after the big success of the demonstration. Somebody, passing nearby of his showroom have spotted some worker (super mario bros ?) quite busy probably staging the

Re: [Vo]:Rossi: 1MW prototype has already been tested at full power

2011-10-25 Thread OrionWorks - Steven V Johnson
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[Vo]:0.9 g/s primary flow was probably not the incoming flow rate

2011-10-25 Thread Jed Rothwell
Colin Hercus colinher...@gmail.com wrote: I know Rossi said this but I also know Mats measured a lower rate (0.9g/m) for a period of 6 minutes . . . Here is a note I wrote about that in another forum: As far as I know the flow rate was 15 L per hour. That is what Rossi said, and it seems to

Re: [Vo]:Re: Rossi says he has a European CE mark

2011-10-25 Thread David ledin
Andrea Rossi October 25th, 2011 at 3:58 AM Dear R. Breathnach: We do not use radioactive materials, do not leave radioactive material and the highes temperature we can reach is the melting point of nickel : once the nickel melts, the E-Cat stops and this fact makes it intrinsecally safe. Warm

Re: [Vo]:Re: Rossi says he has a European CE mark

2011-10-25 Thread Jed Rothwell
Andrea Rossi said to reporters: We do not use radioactive materials, do not leave radioactive material and the highes temperature we can reach is the melting point of nickel : once the nickel melts, the E-Cat stops and this fact makes it intrinsecally safe. In two follow-up questions,

Re: [Vo]:Possible mechanism-Excess Power Reading of ECAT

2011-10-25 Thread Alan J Fletcher
At 06:54 PM 10/24/2011, Colin Hercus wrote: The primary flow is interesting problem. Rossi states 4g/sec which is close to 15 kg/h. The specs of the pump give a maximum of 12kg/h at 1.5 bar so if we believe Rossi then the pump must have been running at maximum volume but then how can we

[Vo]:Rossi’s customer

2011-10-25 Thread Axil Axil
There has been a rumor floated that the US Navy is Rossi’s customer in this week’s upcoming E-Cat trial. This rumor is entirely believable. With the fragmentary background that Rossi has let slip during the last year regarding US government knowledge and participation in the development of the

[Vo]:Why Rossi Insists on the 1MW plant

2011-10-25 Thread Steve Kearns
The answer is clear if you look at his most recent failure. He came up with a device for doing thermoelectric conversion(waste heat to electricity) at a much better efficiency thanwas available. Even though it was verified by outsiders, it turned out to beimpossible to scale up to

[Vo]:Re: [Vo]:Rossi’s customer

2011-10-25 Thread Bruno Santos
Wouldn't US Navy have clear grounds to test nuclear devices on US soil? Why would they test the device in Italy? It seems that they didnt't went thru with US-soil-based test because nuclear-device testing in the US is forbidden for private entities. I ask myself if that's the case for the US

[Vo]:World population graphs

2011-10-25 Thread Jed Rothwell
Somewhat off-topic, but this is handy: http://www.google.com/publicdata/explore?ds=d5bncppjof8f9_met_y=sp_pop_totltdim=truedl=enhl=enq=world+population Select individual nations on the left. In the box marked Population select growth rate, fertility, and things like GDP. Hold the cursor on the

[Vo]:Re: [Vo]:Rossi’s customer

2011-10-25 Thread Jed Rothwell
Axil Axil janap...@gmail.com wrote: There has been a rumor floated that the US Navy is Rossi’s customer in this week’s upcoming E-Cat trial. This rumor is entirely believable. I have no idea whether this is true or not, but I note that Rossi is firmly opposed to selling his devices to any

[Vo]:Re: [Vo]:Rossi’s customer

2011-10-25 Thread Jay Caplan
Right, between the military interst and NRC regulators, it will be 10-15 years before any of this tech is available for commercial use. - Original Message - From: Axil Axil To: vortex-l Sent: Tuesday, October 25, 2011 12:26 PM Subject: [Vo]:Rossi’s customer There has been

Re: [Vo]:Re: [Vo]:Rossi’s customer

2011-10-25 Thread Jed Rothwell
Jay Caplan uniqueprodu...@comcast.net mailto:uniqueprodu...@comcast.net wrote: Right, between the military interst and NRC regulators, it will be 10-15 years before any of this tech is available for commercial use. Why do you say that military use of technology slows down civilian

[Vo]:Re: [Vo]:Re: [Vo]:Rossi’s customer

2011-10-25 Thread Axil Axil
I recognize that if the US government gets control of E-Cat development that will be bad for the cold fusion community because the government will lock down the technology consistent with other nuclear technologies. Jed will naturally fear this turn of events. But consider that Rossi has

[Vo]:RE: [Vo]:Rossi's customer

2011-10-25 Thread Mark Iverson-ZeroPoint
That would make sense due to the excellent LENR research done by the Navy's SPAWAR facility in San Diego. I'm sure a number of high-ranking Navy officers (decision makers) are well aware of SPAWAR's work. Perhaps the 'agreement' states that the technology would be used strictly (yeah, right)

Re: [Vo]:Re: [Vo]:Rossi’s customer

2011-10-25 Thread Dr Joe Karthauser
I expect the EU has similar fair trade laws so I do not think Defkalion will be able to enforce this policy. I think it makes them look stupid even mentioning it. Who are they kidding? I suppose they are trying to kid Rossi, or at least humoring him. I'm not sure that we do. I don't

[Vo]:Re: [Vo]:Re: [Vo]:Rossi’s customer

2011-10-25 Thread Jay Caplan
Military might want an exclusive interest in a cheap small heat source for a number of strategic interests including ships, but, at any rate, the NRC and other country equivalents will hold this back for a decade+ of testing and proof of safety before allowing marketing. It's nuclear, remember.

Re: [Vo]:0.9 g/s primary flow was probably not the incoming flow rate

2011-10-25 Thread Jed Rothwell
Okay, Lewan told me that after the run there was at least 20 L of hot water left in the vessel. He did not measure it the way he did after the September test, but the vessel was pretty full. If there was any water let in the vessel that proves there must have been some cooling water flowing into

[Vo]:Re: [Vo]:Re: [Vo]:Re: [Vo]:Rossi’s customer

2011-10-25 Thread Jed Rothwell
Jay Caplan uniqueprodu...@comcast.net wrote: ** Military might want an exclusive interest in a cheap small heat source for a number of strategic interests including ships . . They might want exclusive use, but they cannot get it. Too much information about this has already circulated. It is

[Vo]:OT: The Precariat

2011-10-25 Thread Harry Veeder
The Precariat – The new dangerous class http://www.policy-network.net/articles/4004/-The-Precariat-%E2%80%93-The-new-dangerous-class For the first time in history, the mainstream left has no progressive agenda. It has forgotten a basic principle. Every progressive political movement has been

[Vo]:Last big dog B-53 bomb is scrapped

2011-10-25 Thread Jed Rothwell
See: http://amarillo.com/opinion/editorial/2011-10-25/big-dog-gone-arsenal-still-bites#.TqdaLpsUqso A 9 Mt bomb. Wikipedia says they built 340 of the darn things. Thank goodness we are rid of them! - Jed

[Vo]:OT: Nothing about us, without us!

2011-10-25 Thread Harry Veeder
Nothing about us, without us! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_UjZyjFMUC8 water...education..air...free energy... Harry

[Vo]:Observers at the October 6th demo.

2011-10-25 Thread Sean True
It's not scientific, but I've been digging into the people listed as attending the Ross ECat demo on October 6th. Most of these are familiar names, but a few names pulled from a focus.it posting are less familiar. ? marks identifications I think are correct, but may not be. ?? is more speculative.

Re: [Vo]:World population graphs

2011-10-25 Thread fznidarsic
I just read The Coming Population Crash by Fred Pearce. It is quite a surprise that all developed countries are ( China and India following soon) loosing population. I grew up reading the Population Bomb that was to have exploded in 1990. 3d world countries and countries that deny woman

Re: [Vo]:World population graphs

2011-10-25 Thread Jed Rothwell
fznidar...@aol.com wrote: I just read The Coming Population Crash by Fred Pearce. It is quite a surprise that all developed countries are ( China and India following soon) loosing population. They are not losing population yet. Look at the stats carefully. China is still gaining at 0.5% per

[Vo]:fly forever into vast deep distance of Hubble Ultra Field 10,000 galaxies in accurate 4:17 minute video 2009.09.12: Rich Murray 2011.10.24

2011-10-25 Thread Rich Murray
fly forever into vast deep distance of Hubble Ultra Field 10,000 galaxies in accurate 4:17 minute video 2009.08.12: Rich Murray 2011.10.24 Hubble Ultra Deep Field in 3-D by NANCY ATKINSON on AUGUST 12, 2009 Here’s a new way to appreciate the Hubble Ultra Deep Field image, by flying through the