Re: [Vo]:E-cat article by Haiko Leitz

On Wed, Dec 14, 2011 at 8:19 PM, Patrick Ellul wrote: > Hi Mary, > > Do you intend to ever reveal your true identity? If Rossi is proved right? > Or proved wrong? > My privacy fetish way antedates the Rossi story and has nothing to do with it. I'd tell you more but it's probably not of any inte

[Vo]:entanglement broadcasting

http://www.insidescience.org/research/1-2376 In the Quantum World, Diamonds Can Communicate With Each Other. Oxford physicists using bizarre principle of "entanglement" to cause a change in a diamond they do not touch. Entanglement has been proven before but what makes the Oxford experiment uniq

[Vo]:Power Increase with Loose Coupling

Three tuned LC secondaries over three top poles of the 666 pancake system/ effects of loose coupling for greater power transfer showing xenon and krypton bulbs as loads. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mVLBlqBk01s HDN Pioneering the Applications of Interphasal Resonances http://tech.groups.yahoo.co

Re: [Vo]:E-cat article by Haiko Leitz

Hi Mary, Do you intend to ever reveal your true identity? If Rossi is proved right? Or proved wrong? Regards, Patrick On Thu, Dec 15, 2011 at 12:25 PM, Mary Yugo wrote: > > > On Wed, Dec 14, 2011 at 5:08 PM, Horace Heffner wrote: > >> The other tests cannot be faked as far as I know. No skept

Re: [Vo]:Defkalion tells a reader : visit us

On Wed, Dec 14, 2011 at 10:07 PM, Terry Blanton wrote: > All you have to do is create an account under, say, Jaguar, and act > like a believer.  Then you say that you'd like to visit like that pell > dude. Of course you can't get in if it's only an out. It's called "calling the bluff." T

Re: [Vo]:Defkalion tells a reader : visit us

On Wed, Dec 14, 2011 at 9:24 PM, Mary Yugo wrote: > > > On Wed, Dec 14, 2011 at 5:53 PM, Terry Blanton wrote: >> There's still a chance if she logs in as someone else because they >> don't know who he/she really is. > > > > Nonsense.  Why would they let me, of all people, in?  Who have they let

Re: [Vo]:Defkalion tells a reader : visit us

On Wed, Dec 14, 2011 at 6:43 PM, Charles Hope wrote: > Yeah, I was wondering if anyone would notice the irony. > > Sorry, my iron was on "cold".

Re: [Vo]:Defkalion tells a reader : visit us

Yeah, I was wondering if anyone would notice the irony. On Dec 14, 2011, at 21:27, Mary Yugo wrote: > > > On Wed, Dec 14, 2011 at 5:35 PM, Charles Hope > wrote: > Ha! No soup for you, Mary! And no, you can't have anybody else's, either. > > I'm sure whoever visits will be sworn to secrec

Re: [Vo]:Defkalion tells a reader : visit us

On Wed, Dec 14, 2011 at 5:35 PM, Charles Hope wrote: > Ha! No soup for you, Mary! And no, you can't have anybody else's, either. > > I'm sure whoever visits will be sworn to secrecy. To protect the trade > secrets, of course, because they don't have a patent on what they're about > to mass produce

Re: [Vo]:Defkalion tells a reader : visit us

On Wed, Dec 14, 2011 at 5:35 PM, Charles Hope wrote: > Ha! No soup for you, Mary! And no, you can't have anybody else's, either. > > I'm sure whoever visits will be sworn to secrecy. To protect the trade > secrets, of course, because they don't have a patent on what they're about > to mass produce

Re: [Vo]:Defkalion tells a reader : visit us

On Wed, Dec 14, 2011 at 5:53 PM, Terry Blanton wrote: > On Wed, Dec 14, 2011 at 8:35 PM, Charles Hope > wrote: > > Ha! No soup for you, Mary! And no, you can't have anybody else's, either. > > > > I'm sure whoever visits will be sworn to secrecy. To protect the trade > secrets, of course, becaus

Re: [Vo]:Defkalion tells a reader : visit us

On Wed, Dec 14, 2011 at 8:35 PM, Charles Hope wrote: > Ha! No soup for you, Mary! And no, you can't have anybody else's, either. > > I'm sure whoever visits will be sworn to secrecy. To protect the trade > secrets, of course, because they don't have a patent on what they're about to > mass produ

Re: [Vo]:Defkalion tells a reader : visit us

Ha! No soup for you, Mary! And no, you can't have anybody else's, either. I'm sure whoever visits will be sworn to secrecy. To protect the trade secrets, of course, because they don't have a patent on what they're about to mass produce! On Dec 14, 2011, at 19:38, Alan J Fletcher wrote: >

Re: [Vo]:E-cat article by Haiko Leitz

On Wed, Dec 14, 2011 at 5:08 PM, Horace Heffner wrote: > The other tests cannot be faked as far as I know. No skeptic has come up > with a plausible method. > > The usual history of scammers is that they eventually have to do more demonstrations and then they get caught or become obvious. That's

Re: [Vo]:E-cat article by Haiko Leitz

On Dec 14, 2011, at 2:50 PM, Jed Rothwell wrote: Robert Leguillon wrote: You said: No, he is a terrible psychologist.>>He does not know how to fool anyone. < That's what I meant by: " The descriptions of Rossi's ability to fool scientists is in stark contrast to Mr. Rothwell's contenti

Re: [Vo]:Cold Fusion and the Star Trek Economy

On 14 December 2011 21:24, Zell, Chris wrote: > How much government spending goes to the richest 1%? Very little, I think. This is the very problem of current socialist policy. However, if we use 99% of collected tax revenues to support purchasing power of middle class, that is we have basic inc

Re: [Vo]:Defkalion tells a reader : visit us

On Wed, Dec 14, 2011 at 7:44 PM, Mark Iverson-ZeroPoint wrote: > Hate to sound paranoid, but, do you get the feeling like someone is watching > us? DGT reads this forum. T

Re: [Vo]:Defkalion tells a reader : visit us

What an obvious cop out. "Oh sure, Maryyugo, we'll be happy to have you a guest and you can report back freely what you think... ... oh, and by the way, you'll be the first ever." Yah shoore-- I'm supposed to believe they'd invite me, an anonymous person on the internet, when they didn't invite a

RE: [Vo]:Defkalion tells a reader : visit us

Hate to sound paranoid, but, do you get the feeling like someone is watching us? :-) Which reminds me of Feynman's story about being in the military's recruiting office... -mark -Original Message- From: Alan J Fletcher [mailto:a...@well.com] Sent: Wednesday, December 14, 2011 4:39 PM To:

Re: [Vo]:Defkalion tells a reader : visit us

On Wed, Dec 14, 2011 at 7:38 PM, Alan J Fletcher wrote: > M.Y. : Can you mention the name of any well known scientist, engineer, > reporter or major company which has visited you, been favorably impressed by > the technology you showed them, and with whom we could get confirmation of > the visit?

Re: [Vo]:Defkalion tells a reader : visit us

M.Y. : Can you mention the name of any well known scientist, engineer, reporter or major company which has visited you, been favorably impressed by the technology you showed them, and with whom we could get confirmation of the visit? No trade secrets or product specifications are requested --

RE: [Vo]:E-cat article by Haiko Leitz

I was referring to the descriptions of his ability to fool people as stated in the video (embedded in the article) See from 15:20 to 16:00 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t9I_CJti-RU&feature=player_embedded Date: Wed, 14 Dec 2011 18:50:46 -0500 From: jedrothw...@gmail.com To: vortex-l@eskimo.c

Re: [Vo]:E-cat article by Haiko Leitz

Robert Leguillon wrote: You said: No, he is a terrible psychologist.>>He does not know how to fool anyone. < That's what I meant by: " The descriptions of Rossi's ability to fool scientists is in stark contrast to Mr. Rothwell's contention that "Rossi couldn't fool anyone." I stand by tha

RE: [Vo]:E-cat article by Haiko Leitz

http://www.mail-archive.com/vortex-l@eskimo.com/msg54240.html Peter Heckert said: "For example he is a good psychologist and he knows how to fool people." You said: No, he is a terrible psychologist.>>He does not know how to fool anyone. < Date: Wed, 14 Dec 2011 18:10:20 -0500 > From: jedrot

RE: [Vo]:Statistics and LENR and Thermodynamics - a new theory.

Hi Horace, You stated: "Note that this also represents a pressure to the vacuum of 5.8678x10^111 Pa." Which ties in perfectly with my qualitative model of the vacuum as a medium which is under extreme tension or pressure, but with extremely little viscosity. Thus, if you were to 'strike' a sma

Re: [Vo]:Defkalion tells a reader : visit us

On Wed, Dec 14, 2011 at 2:38 PM, Stephen A. Lawrence wrote: > (And I'm not even a "believer") Yoda: Nasty word, it is! One you will be. T

Re: [Vo]:E-cat article by Haiko Leitz

Robert Leguillon wrote: I feel even more uneasy about PetrolDragon after seeing this video, again. The descriptions of Rossi's ability to fool scientists is in stark contrast to Mr. Rothwell's contention that "Rossi couldn't fool anyone." This article quotes me saying there is no independen

RE: [Vo]:E-cat article by Haiko Leitz

Glad to see the video again. There have been so many different sources out there, that it's easy to forget where the data comes from. I sure wish that the source video from the Jan test was available; it would be great to analyze. I feel even more uneasy about PetrolDragon after seeing this vid

RE: [Vo]:E-cat article by Haiko Leitz

Peter G. asked Levi about this device, at the time. Levi indicated that it was the radiation (positron) detector, IIRC. -Original Message- From: Horace Heffner Leitz references the video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t9I_CJti-RU&feature=player_embedded which is in regards to 14 J

Re: [Vo]:E-cat article by Haiko Leitz

Leitz references the video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t9I_CJti-RU&feature=player_embedded which is in regards to 14 Jan 2011. Note oscilloscope at time 00:32! Measuring frequency generator output? Best regards, Horace Heffner http://www.mtaonline.net/~hheffner/ <>

[Vo]:E-cat article by Haiko Leitz

http://www.heise.de/tp/artikel/35/35803/1.html English translation http://translate.google.com/translate? sl=de&tl=en&js=n&prev=_t&hl=en&ie=UTF-8&layout=2&eotf=1&u=http%3A%2F% 2Fwww.heise.de%2Ftp%2Fartikel%2F35%2F35803%2F1.html&act=url Video is in english. Some vorts quoted. Best regards,

Re: [Vo]:The Thermodynamics of Making Coffee (HTTP joke)

On Dec 14, 2011, at 12:05 PM, Alan J Fletcher wrote: At 05:37 PM 12/12/2011, Horace Heffner wrote: http://www.wired.com/wiredscience/2011/12/coffee-pot-physics/ I was reminded elsewhere of the HTCPCP error code 418 http://www.flickr.com/photos/girliemac/6508102407/in/ set-72157628409467125

Re: [Vo]:Statistics and LENR and Thermodynamics - a new theory.

A minor typo correction and an addition at the end: Feynman and Wheeler computed there is enough energy in the vacuum of a light bulb to boil the oceans of the earth. The energy of the zero point field is vast. More specifically, in: http://www.earthtech.org/publications/PRAv49_678.pdf Hai

Re: [Vo]:Statistics and LENR and Thermodynamics - a new theory.

Feynman and Wheeler computed there is enough energy in the vacuum of a light bulb to boil the oceans of the earth. The energy of the zero point field is vast. More specifically, in: http://www.earthtech.org/publications/PRAv49_678.pdf Haisch, Reuda, and Puthoff give the spectral energy densi

Re: [Vo]:The Thermodynamics of Making Coffee (HTTP joke)

At 05:37 PM 12/12/2011, Horace Heffner wrote: http://www.wired.com/wiredscience/2011/12/coffee-pot-physics/ I was reminded elsewhere of the HTCPCP error code 418 http://www.flickr.com/photos/girliemac/6508102407/in/set-72157628409467125 (see: www.ietf.org/rfc/rfc2324.txt    Any attempt to

RE: [Vo]:Cold Fusion and the Star Trek Economy

Yup, just like the movie, "Chain Reaction" with Morgan Freeman. The beauty is Cold Fusion=decentralized society, Hot Fusion = centralized society. Go, Cold Fusion! Didn't Heinlein once write a story about some soldiers who discovered free energy and went AWOL, in consequence? ___

Re: [Vo]:Cold Fusion and the Star Trek Economy

my estimate is the the 1% will try to privatize LENR, like they privatize globalization those 30 last years (since reagan/thatcher)... that is the danger but lenr hace bad caracteristic for that unlike green helps 2011/12/14 Zell, Chris > ** > How much government spending goes to the richest 1%

Re: [Vo]:Defkalion tells a reader : visit us

On Wed, Dec 14, 2011 at 11:38 AM, Charly Sistovaris wrote: > That's in Athens, not Xanthi which is a town in the North. > You often bring up good arguments, but the bickering is a tiresome. > I simply copied the information given by Defkalion and indeed it's Athens. Questioning the veracity of D

Re: [Vo]:The initial CF fraud

Alain Sepeda wrote: > > and inside (main story page 12) he cleary state, (with "exhibits") that > MIT have made a fraud , to pretend > they did not reproduce the F&P experiment, and get no anomalous heat... > > it is his own accusation, and I'm not sure I can trust it without knowing > another op

Re: [Vo]:Defkalion tells a reader : visit us

That's in Athens, not Xanthi which is a town in the North. You often bring up good arguments, but the bickering is a tiresome. On Wed, Dec 14, 2011 at 7:29 PM, Mary Yugo wrote: > On Wed, Dec 14, 2011 at 10:10 AM, Alan J Fletcher wrote: > >> edpell : Guys, you have a nice website. Do you have an

Re: [Vo]:Defkalion tells a reader : visit us

On 11-12-14 01:29 PM, Mary Yugo wrote: On Wed, Dec 14, 2011 at 10:10 AM, Alan J Fletcher > wrote: edpell : Guys, you have a nice website. Do you have any proof of any existence beyond a website? DKT: Come and visit us! (send us with a PM or an e-mail with y

Re: [Vo]:Cold Fusion and the Star Trek Economy

So, a direct estimation is not possible. I wonder then if some kind of parameter could be used to analyze that. I guess trying to be fair is better. 2011/12/14 Zell, Chris > ** > How much government spending goes to the richest 1%? Very little, I > think. You have to allow for some *discretion

RE: [Vo]:Cold Fusion and the Star Trek Economy

How much government spending goes to the richest 1%? Very little, I think. You have to allow for some discretion, for God's sake! They invest in Congress (lobbyists, re-election cash and outright bribes) and get - not outright cash in return but rather legislation that inhibits competition, o

Re: [Vo]:Cold Fusion and the Star Trek Economy

Only a kind of socialism? Why do you think they wore red uniforms? :) http://www.stardestroyer.net/Empire/Essays/Trek-Marxism.html BTW, concerning government spending, how much of that goes to the 1%? 2011/12/14 Zell, Chris > ** > I absolutely hate to admit it but these disruptive technologies

Re: [Vo]:Defkalion tells a reader : visit us

Are you asking that to us? I am not part of their board, yet :) 2011/12/14 Mary Yugo > On Wed, Dec 14, 2011 at 10:10 AM, Alan J Fletcher wrote: > >> edpell : Guys, you have a nice website. Do you have any proof of any >> existence beyond a website? >> >> DKT: Come and visit us! (send us with a

Re: [Vo]:Defkalion tells a reader : visit us

The police in the academy are building an hospital for the children with cancer that Rossi's wanted to help with the money he was going to make from the e-cat. Giovanni On Wed, Dec 14, 2011 at 12:29 PM, Mary Yugo wrote: > On Wed, Dec 14, 2011 at 10:10 AM, Alan J Fletcher wrote: > >> edpell : G

[Vo]:Cold Fusion and the Star Trek Economy

I absolutely hate to admit it but these disruptive technologies will force income redistribution on the world to a degree never seen before. Indeed, I think that's already starting to happen. While mobs in NYC protest the evil "1%", wiser heads understand that this 1% now pays 43% of NYC tax re

Re: [Vo]:Defkalion tells a reader : visit us

On Wed, Dec 14, 2011 at 10:10 AM, Alan J Fletcher wrote: > edpell : Guys, you have a nice website. Do you have any proof of any > existence beyond a website? > > DKT: Come and visit us! (send us with a PM or an e-mail with your > personal data first) > > Xanthou 3, Glyfada > Athens, Greece > Go

Re: [Vo]:Defkalion tells a reader : visit us

I guess MY will visit the Balkans! 2011/12/14 Alan J Fletcher > edpell : Guys, you have a nice website. Do you have any proof of any > existence beyond a website? > > DKT: Come and visit us! (send us with a PM or an e-mail with your > personal data first) > > Xanthou 3, Glyfada > Athens, Greece

[Vo]:Defkalion tells a reader : visit us

edpell : Guys, you have a nice website. Do you have any proof of any existence beyond a website? DKT: Come and visit us! (send us with a PM or an e-mail with your personal data first) Xanthou 3, Glyfada Athens, Greece Thank you (lenr.qumbu.com -- analyzing the Rossi/Focardi eCat -- Hi, go

Re: [Vo]:Off Topic- Russian UFO or Drone..UK Telegraph

Russian UFO= Drone and Terry is "Correcto Mundo": http://news.yahoo.com/blogs/sideshow/video-ufo-filmed-hovering-over-russian-protesters-161925456.htm Ron Kita, Chiralex On Wed, Dec 14, 2011 at 10:19 AM, Terry Blanton wrote: > On Wed, Dec 14, 2011 at 8:37 AM, Ron Kita wrote: > > > A drone seem

Re: [Vo]:Cold Fusion and the 2012 Election Cycle

With the DoE consistently opposing funding of cold fusion research it is clear that if Rossi let's his e-Cat out of the bag, it will benefit Ron Paul, who has most visibly and consistently over time opposed the existence of the DoE. On Tue, Dec 13, 2011 at 2:52 AM, noone noone wrote: > I think th

[Vo]:The initial CF fraud

Hi, I've found this article http://www.infinite-energy.com/images/pdfs/mitcfreport.pdf by Eugene F. Mallove (chief science writer for the MIT News Office, when Fleishman&Pos paper make scandal) and inside (main story page 12) he cleary state, (with "exhibits") that MIT have made a fraud , to pret

Re: [Vo]:Off Topic- Russian UFO or Drone..UK Telegraph

On Wed, Dec 14, 2011 at 8:37 AM, Ron Kita wrote: > A drone seems probable..yet...if it is a drone..will it reappear? Yes, at the Olympics! http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/crime/drones-to-patrol-the-skies-above-olympic-stadium-6267107.html T

Re: [Vo]:Off Topic- Russian UFO or Drone..UK Telegraph

>From Kita > I guess that most have seen this by now..It seems to have "gone viral". > > http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/newstopics/howaboutthat/ufo/8951086/Russian-protesters-film-UFO-over-Moscow.html > > A drone seems probable..yet...if it is a drone..will it reappear? Most likely a surveil

Re: [Vo]:Off Topic- Russian UFO or Drone..UK Telegraph

imagine the use of a plane/drone/helicopter with 6 month autonomy ? it could change the usage we make of flying machine, especialy drones (who don't need to eat and drink few times a day)... 2011/12/14 Ron Kita > Greetings Vortex, > > I guess that most have seen this by now..It seems to have "g

[Vo]:Off Topic- Russian UFO or Drone..UK Telegraph

Greetings Vortex, I guess that most have seen this by now..It seems to have "gone viral". http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/newstopics/howaboutthat/ufo/8951086/Russian-protesters-film-UFO-over-Moscow.html A drone seems probable..yet...if it is a drone..will it reappear? Ron Kita, Chiralex

Re: [Vo]:Statistics and LENR and Thermodynamics - a new theory.

- Original Nachricht Von: peter.heck...@arcor.de An: vortex-l@eskimo.com Datum: 14.12.2011 12:06 Betreff: [Vo]:Statistics and LENR and Thermodynamics - a new theory. > Lets assume we play in lottery. Sometimes we win, mostly we dont win. > Is this a scientific proof that lo

[Vo]:Statistics and LENR and Thermodynamics - a new theory.

Lets assume we play in lottery. Sometimes we win, mostly we dont win. Is this a scientific proof that lottery delivers excess money? No, it is not. I think this is clear to everybody, no explanation is necessary. Of course, only those people who have won, report. Those, who have lost, dont report

Re: [Vo]: seen question (in french) on areva forum

FYI the answer have been done by areva about LENR http://www.areva.com/ajaxpub/Dialog/DetailQuestion.aspx?show=3&idQuestion=975 Good evening, I wonder if Areva and EDF conduct extensive studies on technology LENR "Cold Fusion"? Indeed, facing a more than uncertain future of fossil fuels and low y

Re: [Vo]:New Posting from Lattice Energy - LENR compared to CF

On Tue, Dec 13, 2011 at 6:26 PM, wrote: > Joshua, > > I believe, Zawodny does explain the creation of ULM neutrons through the > plasmonic creation of heavy electrons. See (slide 16) of > > http://newenergytimes.com/v2/news/2011/36/2010-Zawodny-AviationUnleashed.pdf That's not an explanation. T