Re: [Vo]:Software pkg for vortex-L

2013-01-10 Thread Zachary StarkJones
Nice finds, Bill! I've occasionally had a need for software like this (for PEAR/ICRL's internal list) and didn't find these. I think. Citadel requires use of it's custom mail server. Have we have a problem with whitelist/blacklisting of the mailing list in the past? GroupServer uses postfix,

RE: EXTERNAL: [Vo]:noble gase cluster explosion

2013-01-10 Thread Roarty, Francis X
Axil, Nice find, I agree that Papp is exploiting same and they are aware of the need for resonance but it is also clear in your citation , http://phys.org/news/2012-11-ionization-x-ray-laser-shells-electron.html, that they are falling far short of what the Papp engine is claimed

[Vo]:intro-edit*TIME-TRAVEL-TECH Einstein-Rosen Bridge/'Spooky Action at a 'trans-TIME' distance. . .

2013-01-10 Thread Jack Harbach-O'Sullivan
Jack O'Sullivan//RE: Jake Lev Harbach-General Science Journal * * *POINT LEAD Hyper-Speed//Focused HyperGravionic PROPULSION is CURRENT REAL TECHNOLOGY: and that propulsion system REACTOR on the 'back-pulse' literally 'ratchets the reactor (and craft) back-against' the flow of TIME STREAM

Re: [Vo]:brief writeup on Ron Maimon's theory of Augur deuterons

2013-01-10 Thread mixent
In reply to Eric Walker's message of Wed, 9 Jan 2013 22:03:24 -0800: Hi, [snip] I'm curious, Robin, if you know offhand of some back-of-the-envelope calculations that would help to get a more precise handle on whether the process would be too inefficient to sustain itself. There are two factors

Re: [Vo]:brief writeup on Ron Maimon's theory of Augur deuterons

2013-01-10 Thread Eric Walker
On Thu, Jan 10, 2013 at 12:16 PM, mix...@bigpond.com wrote: There is a third problem. Fast deuterons would be expected to show the same reaction products as one gets from hot fusion, and there is not much evidence that this happens. By products, I think you mean gammas, neutrons and tritium?

Re: [Vo]:brief writeup on Ron Maimon's theory of Augur deuterons

2013-01-10 Thread mixent
In reply to Eric Walker's message of Wed, 9 Jan 2013 22:03:24 -0800: Hi, [snip] I'm curious, Robin, if you know offhand of some back-of-the-envelope calculations that would help to get a more precise handle on whether the process would be too inefficient to sustain itself. PS - AFAIK charged

Re: [Vo]:brief writeup on Ron Maimon's theory of Augur deuterons

2013-01-10 Thread Eric Walker
On Thu, Jan 10, 2013 at 8:16 AM, Jones Beene jone...@pacbell.net wrote: Any viable theory must explain lack of gamma radiation better than current concepts - and any kind of Auger cascade will not do that – since the radiation is detectable. In fact there are specialized instruments made for

Re: [Vo]:brief writeup on Ron Maimon's theory of Augur deuterons

2013-01-10 Thread mixent
In reply to Eric Walker's message of Thu, 10 Jan 2013 12:43:17 -0800: Hi, [snip] So Ron's theory seems to require that everything happen really close to the palladium atoms. Then what is the significance of the Auger process? I.e. why do the deuterons need 20 keV? If they are in close proximity

Re: [Vo]:brief writeup on Ron Maimon's theory of Augur deuterons

2013-01-10 Thread Eric Walker
On Thu, Jan 10, 2013 at 12:58 PM, mix...@bigpond.com wrote: Then what is the significance of the Auger process? I.e. why do the deuterons need 20 keV? Obviously I'm out of my depth, here. ;) I imagine they need 20 keV to approach the palladium nucleus close enough to see the effect that Ron

Re: EXTERNAL: [Vo]:noble gase cluster explosion

2013-01-10 Thread David Roberson
Apparently there is a large amount of energy stored within these noble gas clusters that can be released doing mechanical work. That might be possible, but there needs to be a source of this energy to store in the first place before that can happen. I have not seen proof that zero point

Re: [Vo]:Papp's gas mixer/purifier

2013-01-10 Thread Axil Axil
I believe that the accumulated feedback charge must be removed from the noble gas mix before the next cycle of the firing of the cylinder can be effective. The clustering idea may support this belief. The residual feedback charge from the last firing of the discharge spark may keep the gas

Re: [Vo]:intro-edit*TIME-TRAVEL-TECH Einstein-Rosen Bridge/'Spooky Action at a 'trans-TIME' distance. . .

2013-01-10 Thread John Berry
I am reluctant to ask, but what makes you believe that this is a useful form of communication? What is it about this list that attracts such non-sense? I am all for fringe science, but this is all straight jacket stuff. Ugh. On Fri, Jan 11, 2013 at 8:13 AM, Jack Harbach-O'Sullivan

Re: [Vo]:intro-edit*TIME-TRAVEL-TECH Einstein-Rosen Bridge/'Spooky Action at a 'trans-TIME' distance. . .

2013-01-10 Thread ChemE Stewart
Medical marijuana? On Thursday, January 10, 2013, John Berry wrote: I am reluctant to ask, but what makes you believe that this is a useful form of communication? What is it about this list that attracts such non-sense? I am all for fringe science, but this is all straight jacket stuff.

Re: [Vo]:intro-edit*TIME-TRAVEL-TECH Einstein-Rosen Bridge/'Spooky Action at a 'trans-TIME' distance. . .

2013-01-10 Thread John Berry
Maybe acid. On Fri, Jan 11, 2013 at 10:49 AM, ChemE Stewart cheme...@gmail.com wrote: Medical marijuana? On Thursday, January 10, 2013, John Berry wrote: I am reluctant to ask, but what makes you believe that this is a useful form of communication? What is it about this list that

Re: [Vo]:Papp's gas mixer/purifier

2013-01-10 Thread Andy Findlay
On 10/01/13 21:36, Axil Axil wrote: The Papp formula may well act as follows: Add electrons and x-rays through spark discharge and the noble gas clusters expand in volume. Remove electrons and the noble gas clusters shrink in volume An alternating power supply at the frequency of the

Re: [Vo]:intro-edit*TIME-TRAVEL-TECH Einstein-Rosen Bridge/'Spooky Action at a 'trans-TIME' distance. . .

2013-01-10 Thread Gibson Elliot
No, medical marijuana wouldn't make someone believe they were the actual character they were portrayed as in a science fiction book. I was reluctant to slam this guy despite the obvious. I looked across the web and found him all over the place. Mostly in a science fiction book Phobos, and in

Re: [Vo]:brief writeup on Ron Maimon's theory of Augur deuterons

2013-01-10 Thread David Roberson
Where does the lost energy(400 eV/atom) end up as the D passes each atom? Would you expect it to ionize them as it plows through the electron clouds? Or, is it most likely to result in the formation of heat? It appears as thought that much energy loss could reap havoc within the metal.

Re: [Vo]:Papp's gas mixer/purifier

2013-01-10 Thread David Roberson
Something is wrong with JR's plan. If all of the fuel goes away, what is left for the next cycle? Operation of a device that eats these gases would be far more than one that uses relatively cheap gasoline. Dave -Original Message- From: Axil Axil janap...@gmail.com To: vortex-l

Re: [Vo]:Papp's gas mixer/purifier

2013-01-10 Thread Axil Axil
The noble gases are not consumed. They revert back to their concentrated clustered state (think buckyballs). The next cycle starts out with the concentrated clustered noble gases which expand again under the stimulation of the next spark discharge. Cheers: Axil On Thu, Jan 10, 2013 at 7:23 PM,

Re: [Vo]:Papp's gas mixer/purifier

2013-01-10 Thread David Roberson
OK, so the gases are still there, but at a much lower pressure. That is a better conclusion than JR's where he suggests that they are destroyed. I recall that when Russ was performing experiments with his popper the piston was slightly pushed outwards at the end of a cycle. This makes sense

Fwd: [Vo]:intro-edit*TIME-TRAVEL-TECH Einstein-Rosen Bridge/'Spooky Action at a 'trans-TIME' distance. . .

2013-01-10 Thread Terry Blanton
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Re: [Vo]:Papp's gas mixer/purifier

2013-01-10 Thread Axil Axil
Andy Findlay said: You've got a plausible explanation for the 'push' and the 'pull' on the piston, but why should one be greater than the other? This is a requirement if you aim to achieve over-unity, even if you ignore friction. I believe two processes are underway simultaneously after the spark

Re: [Vo]:Papp's gas mixer/purifier

2013-01-10 Thread David Roberson
Andy, the piston can be pushed by the expanding gas causing mechanical energy to be given to the crankshaft in a typical engine. And, the pull can also generate mechanical energy in a similar fashion. If you consider a crankshaft, torque is applied as it is pushed in one direction toward the

Re: [Vo]:brief writeup on Ron Maimon's theory of Augur deuterons

2013-01-10 Thread mixent
In reply to David Roberson's message of Thu, 10 Jan 2013 19:18:25 -0500 (EST): Hi, [snip] Where does the lost energy(400 eV/atom) end up as the D passes each atom? Would you expect it to ionize them as it plows through the electron clouds? Or, is it most likely to result in the formation of

Re: [Vo]:brief writeup on Ron Maimon's theory of Augur deuterons

2013-01-10 Thread Eric Walker
On Thu, Jan 10, 2013 at 8:16 AM, Jones Beene jone...@pacbell.net wrote: Maimon’s theory is essentially a rehash of older speculation - and is dead in the water. Out of curiosity, whose are the earlier speculations? Eric