[Vo]:Demonstration Differential Equation Solution MFMP

2013-01-17 Thread David Roberson
I have deposited an Excel file into the newvortex-moderated group file depository. This file demonstrates the technique that I have developed which predicts the temperature versus time response of the MFMP Celani cell. The curve generated by my process performs a remarkable fit to the actual

[Vo]:Just published: JCMNS vol. 10 (Jan 2013)

2013-01-17 Thread pagnucco
JOURNAL OF CONDENSED MATTER NUCLEAR SCIENCE - Vol. 10, Jan-2013 http://www.iscmns.org/CMNS/JCMNS-Vol10.pdf RESEARCH ARTICLES Characteristics and Energetics of Craters in LENR Experimental Materials p1 -- David J. Nagel >From the Naught Orbit to the 4He Excited State p15 -- A. Meulenberg Pr

Re: [Vo]:Suppose Watson tells people "cancer treatment does not work"?

2013-01-17 Thread Terry Blanton
On Thu, Jan 17, 2013 at 6:21 PM, Mark Gibbs wrote: > What if Watson concludes LENR is a load of baloney? I would enjoy a nice baloney sandwich.

Re: [Vo]:Suppose Watson tells people "cancer treatment does not work"?

2013-01-17 Thread Jed Rothwell
I wrote: > The thing is, Watson would feel no contraction between this response and > the one he gave a minute before. He would not recognize that if the second > response is true, it invalidates the first one. That is too high a level of > abstraction for Watson, and for many people. > As far a

Re: [Vo]:Suppose Watson tells people "cancer treatment does not work"?

2013-01-17 Thread Harry Veeder
On Thu, Jan 17, 2013 at 6:21 PM, Mark Gibbs wrote: > On Thu, Jan 17, 2013 at 3:14 PM, Jones Beene wrote: > >> >> What if the entire corpus of physics is loaded, and Watson concludes that >> LENR is the superior energy solution for the future of humanity, far more so >> than hot fusion or fission

Re: [Vo]:Suppose Watson tells people "cancer treatment does not work"?

2013-01-17 Thread Jed Rothwell
I doubt that Watson can be "aware of" what you might call high level contradictions. Many people have trouble sensing these. Suppose you ask Watson: "Given cancer X in condition Y, what is the best treatment?" It goes through the literature and comes up with an answer. Next question: "Among pu

Re: [Vo]:Suppose Watson tells people "cancer treatment does not work"?

2013-01-17 Thread James Bowery
If anyone ever gets serious about advancing artificial intelligence, they'll fund The Hutter Prize for Lossless Compression of Human Knowledgeat something like the risk adjusted net present value of artificial intelligence. If that happens, truly interesting things will

Re: [Vo]:Suppose Watson tells people "cancer treatment does not work"?

2013-01-17 Thread Alan Fletcher
> From: "David Roberson" > Sent: Thursday, January 17, 2013 5:04:15 PM > Watson would be shut down due to lack of funding. >> What if the entire corpus of physics is loaded, and Watson concludes >> that LENR is the superior energy solution for the future of humanity, >> far more so than hot fusi

[Vo]:Prevent a Nuclear Reactor Holocaust!

2013-01-17 Thread Wm. Scott Smith
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Re: [Vo]:Suppose Watson tells people "cancer treatment does not work"?

2013-01-17 Thread David Roberson
Watson would be shut down due to lack of funding. Dave -Original Message- From: Jed Rothwell To: vortex-l Sent: Thu, Jan 17, 2013 7:30 pm Subject: Re: [Vo]:Suppose Watson tells people "cancer treatment does not work"? Jones Beene wrote: What if the entire corpusof physics is

Re: [Vo]:Suppose Watson tells people "cancer treatment does not work"?

2013-01-17 Thread Jed Rothwell
Mark Gibbs wrote: > What if Watson concludes LENR is a load of baloney? > Seriously? That would not surprise me. I have been reading about Watson and the methodology, because I am interested in natural language processing, translation and so on. Watson does not do much synthesizing. It parses

Re: [Vo]:Suppose Watson tells people "cancer treatment does not work"?

2013-01-17 Thread Jed Rothwell
Jones Beene wrote: > What if the entire corpus of physics is loaded, and Watson concludes that > LENR is the superior energy solution for the future of humanity, far more > so than hot fusion or fission ? > That would be hysterical! - Jed

Re: [Vo]:Suppose Watson tells people "cancer treatment does not work"?

2013-01-17 Thread Mark Gibbs
Just consider, whatever conclusion, other than "I don't know", Watson might come to, it will please no one no matter how logical it might be ... or rather seem to be. And rightly so because unless Watson concludes "I don't know" the question of whether Watson had enough data or the right data or th

RE: [Vo]:Meteorite with diatoms in Polonnaruwa , Sri Lanka

2013-01-17 Thread Rick Monteverde
Jones Beene wrote: "Why is skepticism running high? Typical knee-jerk reaction probably." No doubt, but also maybe because the structure of the diatom objects aren't the slightest bit ambiguous, unlike other previous cell-like objects seen in meteorites. Also they've gone further now and c

Re: [Vo]:Suppose Watson tells people "cancer treatment does not work"?

2013-01-17 Thread Daniel Rocha
Most people would not be surprised, so it's kind of boring. 2013/1/17 Mark Gibbs > On Thu, Jan 17, 2013 at 3:14 PM, Jones Beene wrote: > > >> ** >> >> What if the entire corpus of physics is loaded, and Watson concludes that >> LENR is the superior energy solution for the future of humanity, f

Re: [Vo]:Suppose Watson tells people "cancer treatment does not work"?

2013-01-17 Thread Mark Gibbs
On Thu, Jan 17, 2013 at 3:14 PM, Jones Beene wrote: > ** > > What if the entire corpus of physics is loaded, and Watson concludes that > LENR is the superior energy solution for the future of humanity, far more > so than hot fusion or fission ? > > ** > What if Watson concludes LENR is a lo

RE: [Vo]:Suppose Watson tells people "cancer treatment does not work"?

2013-01-17 Thread Jones Beene
From: Jed Rothwell Whoa! I just thought of an interesting scenario. That article says that the first application they intend to use Watson for his cancer treatment recommendations. Suppose they feed Watson the entire corpus of cancer research, and he concludes that cancer treatment has no eff

Re: [Vo]:Suppose Watson tells people "cancer treatment does not work"?

2013-01-17 Thread John Berry
Only if you don't feed it any info from natural therapies (and alternative). On Fri, Jan 18, 2013 at 11:55 AM, Jed Rothwell wrote: > Whoa! I just thought of an interesting scenario. > > That article says that the first application they intend to use Watson for > his cancer treatment recommendatio

RE: [Vo]:Meteorite with diatoms in Polonnaruwa , Sri Lanka

2013-01-17 Thread Jones Beene
Why is skepticism running high? Typical knee-jerk reaction probably. With those fabulous images, the evidence for diatoms looks pretty solid. The "red rain" sounds like a SciFi plot. that would cause some doubt - but not those images. Too bad ACC is not around to comment.

[Vo]:Suppose Watson tells people "cancer treatment does not work"?

2013-01-17 Thread Jed Rothwell
Whoa! I just thought of an interesting scenario. That article says that the first application they intend to use Watson for his cancer treatment recommendations. Suppose they feed Watson the entire corpus of cancer research, and he concludes that cancer treatment has no effect on the prognosis. So

Re: [Vo]:MFMP: "Encouraging Results"

2013-01-17 Thread Jed Rothwell
Ah, that's more like it. Those are the kind of irregular perturbations I would expect from a real anomaly, as opposed to an instrument artifact. - Jed

[Vo]:MFMP: "Encouraging Results"

2013-01-17 Thread Harry Veeder
MFMP report for 17 January 2013. <> http://www.quantumheat.org/index.php/follow/follow-2/202-encouraging-results Harry

Re: [Vo]:From Turing to Tourette

2013-01-17 Thread Jed Rothwell
I wrote: > . . . Watson would wander around the Internet until he comes to a cash of > stories about himself . . . > I meant a cache of stories. It is pronounced the same as "cash," isn't it? Yes, it is according to thefreedictionary.com NaturallySpeaking should have recognized that. My own pe

Re: [Vo]:From Turing to Tourette

2013-01-17 Thread Harry Veeder
On Thu, Jan 17, 2013 at 9:39 AM, Terry Blanton wrote: > http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-2260784/IBM-wipes-supercomputers-hard-drives-bid-stop-potty-mouthed-machine-uttering-obscenities.html > > The gameshow winning supercomputer that couldn’t stop saying > ‘bull’: IBM forced to

Re: [Vo]:From Turing to Tourette

2013-01-17 Thread Alan Fletcher
> From: "Jed Rothwell" > Sent: Thursday, January 17, 2013 1:00:58 PM > Subject: Re: [Vo]:From Turing to Tourette > That would be another science-fiction story. Instead of learning more > and improving his responses, Watson gradually becomes angry at the > human race, or depressed and withdrawn, u

Re: [Vo]:From Turing to Tourette

2013-01-17 Thread Alan Fletcher
There was a similar story in the late 1960's where the London Science Museum set up a kind of "20 questions" computer guessing game where visitors could type in puzzles. It had a list of cuss-words to be filtered out : reportedly it got lost and just listed the cuss-words in an endless cycle.

Re: [Vo]:From Turing to Tourette

2013-01-17 Thread Jed Rothwell
On Thu, Jan 17, 2013 at 2:07 PM, Jones Beene wrote: > > http://www.cioinsight.com/c/a/Latest-News/IBM-Exploring-New-Use-Cases-Business-Model-for-Watson-Cloud-Services-493686/ > Ah. That's somewhat different from what I had in mind. They are going to offer Watson as a cloud service. I meant that

RE: [Vo]:From Turing to Tourette

2013-01-17 Thread Jones Beene
http://www.cioinsight.com/c/a/Latest-News/IBM-Exploring-New-Use-Cases-Busine ss-Model-for-Watson-Cloud-Services-493686/ From: Jed Rothwell Even funnier will be the follow-on situation, possibly predictable, involving the machine itself in the context of the IBM cloud. Watson is not clo

Re: [Vo]:Passerini Pulls the Plug

2013-01-17 Thread ChemE Stewart
If Rossi was Star Trek, he would already be in the re-runs... On Thursday, January 17, 2013, Terry Blanton wrote: > 22passi.blogspot.com was the place where we all visited two years ago > to hear about Rossi. Well, Dan has said that he gave it two years > and, while he still believes in the eCat

Re: [Vo]:From Turing to Tourette

2013-01-17 Thread Jed Rothwell
Jones Beene wrote: Even funnier will be the follow-on situation, possibly predictable, > involving the machine itself in the context of the IBM cloud. > Watson is not cloud connected or cloud based. It is entirely stand-alone. I think the datasets are structured differently. They do feed it dat

[Vo]:Passerini Pulls the Plug

2013-01-17 Thread Terry Blanton
22passi.blogspot.com was the place where we all visited two years ago to hear about Rossi. Well, Dan has said that he gave it two years and, while he still believes in the eCat, he is disappointing that there has been no demonstrative product put on the market. He is leaving the blog open for com

Re: [Vo]:XO-Dark Space Physics

2013-01-17 Thread Gibson Elliot
Jack   Maybe you should consider that, if the XO space is where all the energy is coming from then perhaps XO-Light Space Physics is more apt.   Gibson From: Jack Harbach-O'Sullivan To: vortex-l@eskimo.com Sent: Thursday, January 17, 2013 7:47 AM Subject: [Vo

RE: [Vo]:From Turing to Tourette

2013-01-17 Thread Jones Beene
Even funnier will be the follow-on situation, possibly predictable, involving the machine itself in the context of the IBM cloud. High level recidivism is not ruled out ? http://www.ibm.com/cloud-computing/us/en/ Ya gotta think that the supercomputer was connected for some extended time t

Re: [Vo]:XO-Dark Space Physics

2013-01-17 Thread Terry Blanton
On Thu, Jan 17, 2013 at 10:47 AM, Jack Harbach-O'Sullivan wrote: > A Friend has coined my physics model as "XO-Dark Space Physics." > > It reminds me of FROM RUSSIAN WITH LOVE. Reminds me of excellent cognac.

Re: [Vo]:From Turing to Tourette

2013-01-17 Thread David Roberson
I was afraid I would die laughing while reading this one Terry. Now I have an explanation as to why those phrases are so often heard! Dave -Original Message- From: Terry Blanton To: vortex-l Sent: Thu, Jan 17, 2013 9:39 am Subject: [Vo]:From Turing to Tourette http://www.dailymai

[Vo]:XO-Dark Space Physics

2013-01-17 Thread Jack Harbach-O'Sullivan
A Friend has coined my physics model as "XO-Dark Space Physics." It reminds me of FROM RUSSIAN WITH LOVE. . . Considering that the BAD OLD RUSKIs built the first proof of 'proof' of concept Plasma-Breach Reactor from my designs & specs. . . . maybe 'XO-Dark-S-Physics' is appropriate. Odd t

RE: [Vo]:From Turing to Tourette

2013-01-17 Thread Jack Harbach-O'Sullivan
SOUNDS LIKE the 'computer' was SMARTER than both the GameShow & IBM put together! Those pesky artificial-intelligenses are 'bad' about BOTTOM-LINING the OBVIOUS. . . OR: Maybe Leonard Nimoy programmed it. . . "Live long & Prosper"~:) _

[Vo]:From Turing to Tourette

2013-01-17 Thread Terry Blanton
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-2260784/IBM-wipes-supercomputers-hard-drives-bid-stop-potty-mouthed-machine-uttering-obscenities.html The gameshow winning supercomputer that couldn’t stop saying ‘bull’: IBM forced to wipe hard drive after machine downloaded an urban dictionary