Re: [Vo]:Atmospheric Vortex vs (and?) LENR

Erratum: "1mil/W fixed operating cost" should read "10mil/W/year fixed operating cost" If you run these numbers with a 12% zero amortization levelization, the price per kWh comes to about 5mil/kWh delivered to the grid: (.30dollar*.12)/W/year+.01dollar/W/year?dollar/kWh ([{(0.3 * dollar) * 0.12}

Re: [Vo]:Atmospheric Vortex vs (and?) LENR

Its a good thing Peter Thiel et al don't know you worked at the same company as this guy. On Tue, Jul 2, 2013 at 10:31 PM, ChemE Stewart wrote: > And this is the coolest damn water spout I have ever seen with a lightning > bolt down the middle. Do you know they still do not know what causes >

Re: [Vo]:Atmospheric Vortex vs (and?) LENR

And this is the coolest damn water spout I have ever seen with a lightning bolt down the middle. Do you know they still do not know what causes lightning? On Tue, Jul 2, 2013 at 11:24 PM, ChemE Stewart wrote: > Jim, > BTW, I worked for the same company as this guy for 10 years @ Sandwell > En

[Vo]:Interesting results at quantumheat.org / MFMP

http://www.quantumheat.org/index.php/en/follow/follow-3/296-50-meters-of-constantan-in-one-cell I really like what they're doing, never mind just the LENR research. The whole movement of community inspired science experiments is very thrilling.

Re: [Vo]:Atmospheric Vortex vs (and?) LENR

Jim, BTW, I worked for the same company as this guy for 10 years @ Sandwell Engineering (I was in their Atlanta office but went/back & forth to Vancouver, BC) "Dr. Stephen Ramsay is a professional engineer and mathematician specializing in engineering meteorology and risk assessment with Sandwell E

Re: [Vo]:Vicinal chemistry, plasmons, Jovion and HotCat

In reply to Jones Beene's message of Tue, 2 Jul 2013 17:52:32 -0700: Hi, [snip] >A pressure drop would be meaningful (assuming leaks are eliminated), no? ...yes. In fact just the other day I was thinking about this as a means of producing an excellent vacuum. ;) (not all my thoughts end up on Vo

Re: [Vo]:Vicinal chemistry, plasmons, Jovion and HotCat

In reply to Jones Beene's message of Tue, 2 Jul 2013 18:30:32 -0700: Hi, [snip] >AFAIK - the HotCat is not designed to "retrieve" hydrogen, and yes the >reactor will stop working as soon as the initial hydrogen is depleted. It >was not intended to be a long-term solution so much as to demonstrate

[Vo]:Atmospheric Vortex vs (and?) LENR

See slide 19 of: http://vortexengine.ca/PPP/AVEtec_Business_Case.pdf Bottom line: If LENR doesn't pan out as an electrical generating system, Atmospheric Vortex Engines are the next best thing. If LENR does pan out as an electrical generating system, Atmospheric Vortex Engines are not only stil

[Vo]:Re: [Vo]:“S-duality”

One idea that string theory has advanced is equivalence between theories even if the theories all look different mathematically. Five consistent versions of string theory were developed before it was realized in the mid-1990s that these theories could be obtained as different limits of a conject

Re: [Vo]:Waterspouts can't lift water?

Nothing, I am waiting for a good LENR investment. On Tue, Jul 2, 2013 at 7:36 PM, James Bowery wrote: > I've already invested time and energy seeking angel funding for him. What > have you done? > > > On Tue, Jul 2, 2013 at 6:11 PM, ChemE Stewart wrote: > >> Jim, >> >> I encourage you to inves

RE: [Vo]:Vicinal chemistry, plasmons, Jovion and HotCat

AFAIK - the HotCat is not designed to "retrieve" hydrogen, and yes the reactor will stop working as soon as the initial hydrogen is depleted. It was not intended to be a long-term solution so much as to demonstrate that high temperature operation is feasible. From: Axil Axil One develo

Re: [Vo]:Vicinal chemistry, plasmons, Jovion and HotCat

One development in the design of the Rossi reactor speaks against the hydrogen migration idea. Rossi is using a solid to emit and retrieve hydrogen so his reactor does not require hydrogen tank to function. If hydrogen were lost through the walls of the reaction chamber in large amounts, the reacto

RE: [Vo]:Vicinal chemistry, plasmons, Jovion and HotCat

Hi Robin, >> 8x less effective volume than hydrogen and the perfect size to slowly diffuse through the steel > That's only the first level, and even then only if Mills' radius is correct. (My version would see the first level volume 64 times smaller.) Well, either way - it looks like no thicknes

RE: [Vo]:Vicinal chemistry, plasmons, Jovion and HotCat

Jones, you are positing a lot in this sequence of IR stimulation to the SiC tube in which the SS reactor is nested, the possibility of SS as acting like a membrane for f/h formed in the catalyst is intriguing. I agree that ZPE is far more likely than people have so far been willing to admi

Re: [Vo]:A show of hands, whose going to ICCF-18?

Very interesting Dr. Cravens: https://plus.google.com/photos/100517292944598113317/albums/5896172801049146737/5896172796425182786?pid=5896172796425182786&oid=100517292944598113317 (Vorts, let me know if this doesn't work, Google+ is confusing to me.) On Tue, Jul 2, 2013 at 11:26 AM, Terry Blanto

Re: [Vo]:Waterspouts can't lift water?

I've already invested time and energy seeking angel funding for him. What have you done? On Tue, Jul 2, 2013 at 6:11 PM, ChemE Stewart wrote: > Jim, > > I encourage you to invest your money in that thing. > > You can keep your colloquialisms. > > > On Tuesday, July 2, 2013, James Bowery wrote:

Re: [Vo]:Waterspouts can't lift water?

Jim, I encourage you to invest your money in that thing. You can keep your colloquialisms. On Tuesday, July 2, 2013, James Bowery wrote: > If anyone is interested in the state of the art in atmospheric vortex > research, see: > > http://www.issres.net/journal/index.php/cfdl/article/view/114/71

Re: [Vo]:Waterspouts can't lift water?

If anyone is interested in the state of the art in atmospheric vortex research, see: http://www.issres.net/journal/index.php/cfdl/article/view/114/71 The conflation of issues raised by ChemE are so well established by both theory and observation as to render speculations about "dark energy" utter

Re: [Vo]:Waterspouts can't lift water?

Just because it is called a water spout doesn't mean it is a column of liquid water. Its a colloquialism. On Tue, Jul 2, 2013 at 4:46 PM, ChemE Stewart wrote: > Jim, > > That model(below) you referenced is a plume of smoke rising and a CFD > simulation of an air vortex. I do not see where it

Re: [Vo]:Vicinal chemistry, plasmons, Jovion and HotCat

In reply to Jones Beene's message of Tue, 2 Jul 2013 10:10:50 -0700: Hi, [snip] >8x less effective volume than hydrogen and the perfect >size to slowly diffuse through the steel That's only the first level, and even then only if Mills' radius is correct. (My version would see the first level volu

Re: [Vo]:Waterspouts can't lift water?

Jim, That model(below) you referenced is a plume of smoke rising and a CFD simulation of an air vortex. I do not see where it discusses the thermodynamics of vacuum evaporating water over an ocean or vacuum condensing water vapor in the atmosphere or hydraulically lifting tons of water into the a

RE: [Vo]:Vicinal chemistry, plasmons, Jovion and HotCat

From: Teslaalset Why would Rossi not put SiC powder in the inner cylinder instead? Plasmons apparently form polaritons most readily at the interface between a metal surface and an insulator . but not so readily on a ceramic powder itself (without metal contact) - so one interpretatio

Re: [Vo]:Waterspouts can't lift water?

Atmospheric vortex physics is well-enough established that the frontier of research is in modeling turbulent vs laminar transitions in with enough accuracy to write the CFD codes required to model the economics of the Atmospheric Vortex Engine. http://www.mail-archive.com/vortex-l@eskimo.com/msg57

Re: [Vo]:Waterspouts can't lift water?

Mark, Thanks, they mention 10 m/s or about 22 MPH lift, which is reasonable and about half of what I eyeballed from that waterspout, which disagrees with what Wilkipedia and Brittanica have published. They also mention it is slightly warmer in the center which makes sense to me. In order to vacuu

Re: [Vo]:Waterspouts can't lift water?

On Tue, Jul 2, 2013 at 1:20 PM, ChemE Stewart wrote: > *Curious what others think about that water moving up in the spout as it > crosses onto land. I don't think the humidity changes that much so I do not > think it is due to a change in condensing (which would be vacuum condensing > anyway) I

[Vo]:Waterspouts can't lift water?

Guys, In my ongoing search for quantum vacuum energy at the macro scale because I can't see what's going on at the atomic scale, I have been researching waterspouts and came across these definitions: >From Brittanica *Contrary to popul

Re: [Vo]:Vicinal chemistry, plasmons, Jovion and HotCat

*save; *balance

Re: [Vo]:Caveman Science Committee Concludes Fire Does Not Exist

Others claimed to be able to start fires from drops of water. But this was tried with lots of water, and under cover to stop the wind blowing out any flames or the sun drying out the water drops. There was no success there either. On Wed, Jul 3, 2013 at 6:50 AM, Alan Fletcher wrote: > > From

Re: [Vo]:Vicinal chemistry, plasmons, Jovion and HotCat

Why would Rossi not put SiC powder in the inner cylinder instead? It would safe him some electrical bias power. Or maybe he's combining to ballance the heat output, using SiC powder in the inner core and in addition an outer SiC shell.

[Vo]:michael, please add me to your LinkedIn network

LinkedIn Giovanni Santostasi requested to add you as a connection on LinkedIn: -- michael, I'd like to add you to my professional network on LinkedIn. - Giovanni Accept invitation from Giovanni Santostasi http://www.linkedin.com/e

Re: [Vo]:Caveman Science Committee Concludes Fire Does Not Exist

> From: "H Veeder" > Sent: Monday, July 1, 2013 4:06:53 PM > > "Back in the caveman and cavewoman days, someone had the idea to try > to create fire artificially. They had seen the heat generated by > forest fires started by lightning, and they thought that fire would > be just dandy to create he

[Vo]:“S-duality”

In pursuit of a better understanding of LENR, I wanted to find out what was behind some of the latest ideas about the nucleus. This includes strong and weak force equivalence called in the physics game "S-duality". It seems to me that the guy who thought this idea up does not believe in quarks.

RE: [Vo]:Vicinal chemistry, plasmons, Jovion and HotCat

The gainful reaction(s) of the HotCat is open to further discussion... here is a start to that. This issue was left open from the previous post, since we do not have adequate data. There are a number of possibilities which involve plasmonics to some degree. 1) The f/H could f

RE: [Vo]:Vicinal chemistry, plasmons, Jovion and HotCat

An off-list question is worth posting relative to the HotCat design and Bob's comment. Why does the HotCat need the stainless steel "capsule" to be inside a SiC containment tube and then to be surrounded by the resistance heater, and how does active hydrogen get out of the capsule so that it can

Re: [Vo]:Vicinal chemistry, plasmons, Jovion and HotCat

Please correct me if I am wrong ... but in the HotCat, I don't believe any H2 ever comes in contact with the silicon carbide. The silicon carbide is an external cylindrical heater assembly around the 310 SS tube that hermetically contains the Ni, catalyst, and H2. The silicon carbide could be jus

RE: [Vo]:Vicinal chemistry, plasmons, Jovion and HotCat

Jones, Welcome to my world!! Jovian , Haish and Modell were originally focused on helium and lamb pinch not f/h or changes is bond state.. Modell was interested in hydrogen but the plan for the prototype was helium and .1u cavities tunnels with alternate layers of insulation so they could flow the

RE: [Vo]: quantum tunneling increases chemical reaction rate at very low temperatures

Moab*2: See the vortex thread, "Of Reaction Rate and Resonances..." http://www.mail-archive.com/vortex-l@eskimo.com/msg83767.html I think the research referenced in that thread makes a VERY important point: Reaction rates are determined by at least 2 factors: heat and resonances. And the

Re: [Vo]:A show of hands, whose going to ICCF-18?

On Mon, Jul 1, 2013 at 11:38 PM, DJ Cravens wrote: > I tried to send this before with a picture, but I guess Vortex didn't like > it. > So here it is again without the picture. If you want, you may send me the picture and I will post a link so that Vorts can see it.

[Vo]:Vicinal chemistry, plasmons, Jovion and HotCat

In the category of chemical reactions - "vicinal" chemistry (from Latin vicinus = neighbor) relates to functional groups bonded to adjacent atoms in a molecule to form isomers with markedly different properties . These functional groups, which can consist of a single proton or a bound pair of proto

RE: [Vo]:A show of hands, whose going to ICCF-18?

Dennis, Congratulations on a novel demo. I hope that the persistent thermal gain is at least as high as Arata. I love the simplicity and the likelihood that it is meaningful . but maybe I am in the "unwashed" category. After the demo, if you have the time - please post a video on YouTube of

[Vo]: quantum tunneling increases chemical reaction rate at very low temperatures

http://www.redorbit.com/news/space/1112887638/quantum-tunneling-methoxy-radicals-space-chemical-compounds-063013/ "In this new work, methanol and an oxidizing chemical called the ‘hydroxyl radical’ were allowed to mix at minus 210 degrees Celsius, simulating conditions of deep space. They found th

Re: [Vo]:E-Cat Offer and Swedish District Heating

Today CHP is rational, but with cheap LENR it is not so sure. My quick computation on Defkalion Hyperions, is that it can produce heat at 100$/kWth (installed power is the main factor, consumption negligible), and probably much less in mass production. Meanwhile a micro-turbine less than 100kW is

[Vo]:David Cameron announces £1m prize for solving world's biggest problem

http://news.techworld.com/personal-tech/3452811/david-cameron-announces-1m-prize-for-solving-worlds-biggest-problem/ quote <> Martin Rees will likely throw any submission related to CF in the garbage. harry

Re: [Vo]:Roland Benabou : Groupthink: Collective Delusions in Organizations and Markets

Wizer analysis... I'm upset like with an ex-girlfriend, because I like theory... emotionally it is beautiful (bad reason). I have another good reason as engineer, which I summarize as : "In theory, practice is all you need to make something works, In practice, theory helps much" however what you