[Vo]:Re: CMNS: Abd's comments to my Synthesis paper

2013-09-20 Thread Peter Gluck
OK, dear Abd, you are more idealist than me. I think to understand and to be able to apply in practice are stages of knowledge. Nature has no problems just solutions. We have problems and it is our duty to work out solutions for them. It is very bad (ineffective & inefficient- see Peter Drucker fo

Re: [Vo]:Cravens report on NI Week demo

2013-09-20 Thread Eric Walker
On Fri, Sep 20, 2013 at 5:41 PM, David Roberson wrote: Do you have any idea what function is performed by his catalyst? > I can only guess. My guess at this point is that a beta emitter is involved here. Perhaps it is stimulating rydberg states in the hydrogen, or perhaps it is altering the e

Re: [Vo]:Cravens report on NI Week demo

2013-09-20 Thread David Roberson
Eric, Rossi has done an excellent job of hiding the details of his catalyst. The facts will come out before long if production begins in earnest on his system. Do you have any idea what function is performed by his catalyst? My first thoughts are that it facilitates the breaking up of the h

Re: [Vo]:Cravens report on NI Week demo

2013-09-20 Thread David Roberson
The point about the heat transfer into the beads increasing with temperature differential is well taken. Also, as you say, the beads offer an excellent sink for any energy being internally generated and flowing through the surface area of the spheres. The net result is that the sphere looks o

Re: [Vo]:Cravens report on NI Week demo

2013-09-20 Thread Jed Rothwell
David Roberson wrote: It is not clear how any form of energy gain is associated with this > experiment. The demonstration appears to generate LENR energy, but the > input function is not present. > That's 'cause there is no input! It is all heat after death (as we call it). It resembles Arata's

Re: [Vo]:Improved calibrations from Mizuno

2013-09-20 Thread Jed Rothwell
wrote: > >Off by an order of magnitude! It is 14 hours per step. > > 13.8 ? > Give or take. I have only seen one graph of a calibration step, but I doubt he comes flying into the lab at 3 a.m. to stop it at 13.8 hours exactly. To do a calibration, you step up the power in the morning, and agai

Re: [Vo]:Cravens report on NI Week demo

2013-09-20 Thread David Roberson
I agree Jed. My comment was made to point out that the energy is being produced internally as a result of elevated temperature. This is an ideal indication of LENR activity. No input as such is required! Of course, the best possible proof to those who fail to listen would be to witness a the

RE: [Vo]:Cravens report on NI Week demo

2013-09-20 Thread DJ Cravens
I was using Sm Co based magnetic powder. Curie point around 700C but it is only useable up to about 250C. (I expect some degradation of the material in hot H/D gas. Remember the old parking lot demo at ICCF-4 with the Samarium cobalt? I can't remember the couple's name at the moment. I am n

Re: [Vo]:Cravens report on NI Week demo

2013-09-20 Thread Terry Blanton
On Fri, Sep 20, 2013 at 2:04 PM, Jed Rothwell wrote: > See: > > http://www.infinite-energy.com/images/pdfs/NIWeekCravens.pdf Such a simple, magnificent demonstration. "Can you make me a charger for my Tesla car?" Charming.

Re: [Vo]:Cravens report on NI Week demo

2013-09-20 Thread Eric Walker
On Fri, Sep 20, 2013 at 3:32 PM, David Roberson wrote: I have begged Rossi to produce a curve of energy generated versus > temperature applied to his material to no avail. With that type of > information one can begin to actually engineer a device that functions on > demand provided the material

RE: [Vo]:Cravens report on NI Week demo

2013-09-20 Thread DJ Cravens
again, watch for Lett's IE article next month. There is a least that model that helps suggests some operational conditions. ..heat and alloying to drop that energy of vacancy of formation are the keys. D2 To: vortex-l@eskimo.com Subject: Re: [Vo]:Cravens report on NI Week demo

Re: [Vo]:Cravens report on NI Week demo

2013-09-20 Thread David Roberson
Thanks for clearing that up. I was wondering how to compare this list of numbers with the observation at the conference. This result makes me curious as to whether or not the device reaches thermal run away at some drive temperature. Perhaps the components you have chosen tend to fall apart b

RE: [Vo]:Re: [Vo]:Cravens report on NI Week demo

2013-09-20 Thread DJ Cravens
the guy that said that was an owner of a Tesla and had billions. I have his card and he said call him when I have a charger. :) I wish. He said he wanted the first fusion car. I told him he could have the second one. :) I have one ready to just charge as soon as I start getti

RE: [Vo]:Cravens report on NI Week demo

2013-09-20 Thread DJ Cravens
the costs is fairly significant.(pd, chemicals, specialized C...) The main cost is "opportunity costs". It takes a LOT of time in material preparations that would detract me from my existing efforts which seem much more useful and practical. You get much better results at elevated temperature

[Vo]:Re: [Vo]:Cravens report on NI Week demo

2013-09-20 Thread hohlr...@gmail.com
Not yet. Just a quote from the IE article. Sent from my Verizon Wireless 4G LTE Fartphone - Reply message - From: "Jones Beene" To: Subject: [Vo]:Cravens report on NI Week demo Date: Fri, Sep 20, 2013 3:53 PM -Original Message- From: Terry Blanton Jed Rothwell wrote: > http

Re: [Vo]:Improved calibrations from Mizuno

2013-09-20 Thread mixent
In reply to Jed Rothwell's message of Fri, 20 Sep 2013 09:37:15 -0400: Hi, [snip] >I wrote: > > >> He says he waits up to 138 hours per step to be sure the temperature is >> stable. That can't be right . . . >> > >Off by an order of magnitude! It is 14 hours per step. 13.8 ? > >- Jed Regards,

RE: [Vo]:Cravens report on NI Week demo

2013-09-20 Thread DJ Cravens
oops you are right K I convert them over as I was doing some kinetic fits. Sorry From: arnaud.kod...@lakoco.be To: vortex-l@eskimo.com Subject: RE: [Vo]:Cravens report on NI Week demo Date: Fri, 20 Sep 2013 23:51:13 +0200 Aren’t the temperatures below in K instead °C? I’m p

RE: [Vo]:Cravens report on NI Week demo

2013-09-20 Thread DJ Cravens
E vs. temp was not done at the demo. However below are some typical (average) values from some old lab runs. I did not "calibrate" at the demo. I only showed that the sample was warmer than the control. That was the only point that was attempted there so there was no claim of amount of energy bu

RE: [Vo]:Cravens report on NI Week demo

2013-09-20 Thread Arnaud Kodeck
Aren’t the temperatures below in K instead °C? I’m pretty sure the water bath wasn’t at 397°C … neither 292°C _ From: DJ Cravens [mailto:djcrav...@hotmail.com] Sent: vendredi 20 septembre 2013 23:14 To: vortex-l@eskimo.com Subject: RE: [Vo]:Cravens report on NI Week demo E vs. tem

Re: [Vo]:Improved calibrations from Mizuno

2013-09-20 Thread Jed Rothwell
Jack Cole wrote: But doesn't hydrogen/deuterium absorption by palladium/nickel produce heat? > A tiny, TINY amount. There is only an itty-bitty amount of Ni (or Pd) in the whole cell. The excess heat in the last 7 experiments has ranged from 16 to 4,880 kJ, which far exceed the heat of absorptio

Re: [Vo]:Cravens report on NI Week demo

2013-09-20 Thread James Bowery
How much does it cost to get the NI demo device duplicated? On Fri, Sep 20, 2013 at 4:14 PM, DJ Cravens wrote: > E vs. temp was not done at the demo. > However below are some typical (average) values from some old lab runs. > I did not "calibrate" at the demo. I only showed that the sample was

Re: [Vo]:Improved calibrations from Mizuno

2013-09-20 Thread Jack Cole
Jed, Thank you. Yes, that makes much more sense to me now, and would be well above heat produced from absorption. On Fri, Sep 20, 2013 at 4:07 PM, Jed Rothwell wrote: > Jack Cole wrote: > > But doesn't hydrogen/deuterium absorption by palladium/nickel produce heat? >> > > A tiny, TINY amount

Re: [Vo]:Cravens report on NI Week demo

2013-09-20 Thread David Roberson
It is not clear how any form of energy gain is associated with this experiment. The demonstration appears to generate LENR energy, but the input function is not present. It would be educational to have a plot of energy generation versus temperature. Dave -Original Message- From: Jo

RE: [Vo]:Improved calibrations from Mizuno

2013-09-20 Thread Jones Beene
From: Eric Walker Jack Cole wrote: But doesn't hydrogen/deuterium absorption by palladium/nickel produce heat? I'm not saying this is not LENR. I'm trying to see if there are alternative explanations.

Re: [Vo]:Improved calibrations from Mizuno

2013-09-20 Thread Eric Walker
On Fri, Sep 20, 2013 at 12:13 PM, Jack Cole wrote: But doesn't hydrogen/deuterium absorption by palladium/nickel produce heat? > I'm not saying this is not LENR. I'm trying to see if there are > alternative explanations. > The absorption of hydrogen and deuterium by palladium produces a lot of

[Vo]:The lighter side of WWIII

2013-09-20 Thread John Berry
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z-sdO6pwVHQ Very funny.

RE: [Vo]:Cravens report on NI Week demo

2013-09-20 Thread Jones Beene
-Original Message- From: Terry Blanton Jed Rothwell wrote: > http://www.infinite-energy.com/images/pdfs/NIWeekCravens.pdf >> Such a simple, magnificent demonstration. "Can you make me a charger for my Tesla car?" Charming. Indeed it is - and understated since the hot sphere transfers

Re: [Vo]:Improved calibrations from Mizuno

2013-09-20 Thread Jack Cole
But doesn't hydrogen/deuterium absorption by palladium/nickel produce heat? I'm not saying this is not LENR. I'm trying to see if there are alternative explanations. See: https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=3&ved=0CEEQFjAC&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.platinummetalsreview.com%2

[Vo]:Cravens report on NI Week demo

2013-09-20 Thread Jed Rothwell
See: http://www.infinite-energy.com/images/pdfs/NIWeekCravens.pdf

Re: [Vo]:Improved calibrations from Mizuno

2013-09-20 Thread Jed Rothwell
Jack Cole wrote: Could this not be purely chemical given the level of output? > There is no chemical fuel in the system. It is just D2 gas and Pd (or H2 and Ni). See: http://lenr-canr.org/acrobat/MizunoTmethodofco.pdf - Jed

Re: [Vo]:synthesis of my ideas re the past, present and future of our field

2013-09-20 Thread Ron Wormus
This may be an interesting development: Ron --On Thursday, September 19, 2013 8:12 PM -0400 Axil Axil wrote: I am getting a bad feeling that LENR is still here way before its time. Science is not at a stage tha

Re: [Vo]:Improved calibrations from Mizuno

2013-09-20 Thread Jack Cole
Could this not be purely chemical given the level of output? On Fri, Sep 20, 2013 at 8:37 AM, Jed Rothwell wrote: > I wrote: > > >> He says he waits up to 138 hours per step to be sure the temperature is >> stable. That can't be right . . . >> > > Off by an order of magnitude! It is 14 hours pe

Re: [Vo]:Improved calibrations from Mizuno

2013-09-20 Thread Jed Rothwell
I wrote: > He says he waits up to 138 hours per step to be sure the temperature is > stable. That can't be right . . . > Off by an order of magnitude! It is 14 hours per step. - Jed

[Vo]:Abd's comments to my Synthesis paper

2013-09-20 Thread Peter Gluck
Dear Friends, I am pleased to publish: http://egooutpeters.blogspot.ro/2013/09/abds-comments-to-my-paper-everything-i.html It is fine, a CFauthorithy takes my paper seriously; together we will discover the truth (first priority for Abd) and the solution (my primary aim) Peter -- Dr. Peter Gluck