Re: [Vo]:How to bring people around...

2014-11-22 Thread John Berry
Jed, you have said that before but it still floors me, as you say this is stuff kids should know. I read recently that Pi was almost changed to 3.2 by law: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Indiana_Pi_Bill But by comparison to what you mention, that is high level stuff really. It makes me wonder though what

Re: [Vo]:How to bring people around...

2014-11-22 Thread Jed Rothwell
John Berry wrote: > “Even amongst educated people the issue is still controversial. Research > has shown over and over that a person's opinion on a scientific issue, > whether it be evolution or climate change or what have you, has more to do > with their political identification than it does wit

[Vo]:Re: [Vo]:Biefeld–Brown effect

2014-11-22 Thread Kevin O'Malley
Axil: Yes. I have been saying for quite some time that electrogravitics and LENR are related. When this is all hashed out, the 2 effects will go hand in hand. Example: https://mail.google.com/mail/?tab=wm#search/electrogravitics/14751d521d690bff On Sat, Nov 22, 2014 at 9:23 AM, Axil Axil wrot

Re: [Vo]:Who could it be???

2014-11-22 Thread Axil Axil
Since Rossi says that the system in question is based on E-Cat technology, then the system must be from Piantelli. On Sat, Nov 22, 2014 at 8:29 PM, Jed Rothwell wrote: > Rossi does not believe Defkalion has anything, so you can take that off > your list. > > Michael C. H. McKubre lists the follo

Re: [Vo]:Who could it be???

2014-11-22 Thread Bob Cook
I think it is Piantelli--he knows the theory that Focardi knew, has had hot wires that seemed to work and is Italian. The Ni-H system was developed in his backyard, if not by he himself with other Italian physicists, some who are not with us any more, to our misfortune. Bob - Original Me

Re: [Vo]:Who could it be???

2014-11-22 Thread Jed Rothwell
Rossi does not believe Defkalion has anything, so you can take that off your list. Michael C. H. McKubre lists the following LENR players: > > Those embarked on practical demonstration include: > > Black Light Power (US) – raised ~80M, know little about them. Not CF? > > Piantelli (Italy) – visi

Re: [Vo]:Who could it be???

2014-11-22 Thread Axil Axil
Michael C. H. McKubre lists the following LENR players: Those embarked on practical demonstration include: Black Light Power (US) – raised ~80M, know little about them. Not CF? Piantelli (Italy) – visited 2012, confirmed results, still working on science. Rossi (Italy and US) – sold, bought

Re: [Vo]:Who could it be???

2014-11-22 Thread David Roberson
Any system that Rossi is concerned about must have a large amount of power output and have high COP. If it does not meet this performance then it can not compete. Do we know of anyone else that has a device of that sort? Surely he does not refer to DGT since they appear to be out of sight.

Re: [Vo]:Who could it be???

2014-11-22 Thread Jed Rothwell
Axil Axil wrote: > It can't be Godes. His reactor is original and not like the E-Cat. Come on > Jed... tell us who1 > I haven't the slightest idea. - Jed

[Vo]:Water, out with the old, in with the new? U-tube vid

2014-11-22 Thread Mark Iverson
Prof Marc Henry On 8 October, 2014, UNESCO's Social and Human Sciences Sector, in collaboration with Luc Montagnier, held a symposium in Paris - "Biology in the light of Physical Theories: New Frontiers in Medicine." This is the presentation of Marc Henry, Professor of Molecular Chemistry at th

Re: [Vo]:Who could it be???

2014-11-22 Thread Axil Axil
Andrea Rossi November 21st, 2014 at 8:24 AM Giuliano Bettini: As you know, in our laboratory we have analysed all the claims of the competitors and reproduced their apparatuses. We found one that works. I already spoke of it

Re: [Vo]:How to bring people around...

2014-11-22 Thread John Berry
Most relivant quotes from the article: “People have been conditioned by 40 years of cultural programming to have an aversion to cannabis (cold fusion/aether etc...).* It doesn’t really matter what sort of evidence is presented*, most people simply react emotionally to the claim rather than rationa

[Vo]:How to bring people around...

2014-11-22 Thread John Berry
I think the video I shared previously ( http://vimeo.com/22956103 ) shows why there should be a lot less close-mindedness around 'fringe' topics including aetheric and so-called LENR research as there is so much we don't know we can't know what all that unknown does to influence what we otherwise t

Re: [Vo]:Who could it be???

2014-11-22 Thread Blaze spinnaker
Yeah, that's the question of the day. Sent from my iPad > On Nov 20, 2014, at 10:00 AM, Axil Axil wrote: > > Marco Serra > November 20th, 2014 at 2:51 AM > Dear Andrea, > you said that “We cannot feed more information to our competition, which now > is very powerful”. My question is: how can a

[Vo]:Re: [Vo]:Biefeld–Brown effect

2014-11-22 Thread Bob Cook
Axil-- With some speculation in the air-- Maybe the virtual particles are actually minute black holes with mass that is repulsed away from the EMF because of its magnetic field which acts only in one direction--a monopole. The black holes leave the vicinity and are never visible to any obse

[Vo]:Biefeld–Brown effect

2014-11-22 Thread Axil Axil
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Biefeld%E2%80%93Brown_effect Biefeld–Brown effect There has been follow-ups on the claims that this propulsive force can be produced in a full vacuum, meaning it is an unknown anti-gravity force, and not just the more well known ion wind