Somewhere on Bill's endlessly large website is an
experiment showing that exposure to a magnetic field
increases the viscosity of water. This is such an
easy thing to test that I tried it. It really works.
At first I thought that this is mysterious and inexplicable.
Then it occurred to me that
But isn't this effect more closely related to Brown-Biefeld;
or am I missing something?
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Harry Veeder wrote:
> This might be an example of why credentials matter
> when a significant discovery is made. Maybe Romagnosi was ignored
> because his was viewed as an "amateur"??
It's from histories such as this one that I have finally come to
the conclusion that really original discoveries
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> . . . they are there; but, we don't know why.
> http://www.zpenergy.com/modules.php?name=News&file=article&sid=1946
> Space is fizzing. Above our heads, where the Earth?s magnetic
> field meets the constant stream of gas from the Sun, thousands
> of bubbles of superh
andi makes the rules up as he goes along. Jed has also stated
that he is not Michael Foster. Isn't he lucky?
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Walter Faxon wrote:
(snip)
> Maybe if the cold fusioneers weren't looking so hard for transmutations
> they would have discovered Makarova's magnetic carbon years before she
> did. At least they can produce a version more easily: Makarova has to
> process her buckyballs into a polymer using p
Robin wrote:
> Using dirt cheap paper thin plastic cylindrical Fresnel lenses,
> with the actual plumbing lying on the surface, and hence requiring
> no supporting structure, combined with "selective surface"
> technology, solar could be 10-100 times cheaper than it currently
> is (guesstimat
Horace wrote:
> Speculation: cobalt hydroquinone may be a useful hydrogen storage
> matrix.http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2006/03/060306213121.htm
What makes you think that? Why not palladium hydroquinone or nickel
hydroquinone, for example? You been staring at the periodic table
and let
Fred wrote:
> Any Vortex subscribers-lurkers names there, Bill?
> http://yro.slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=06/03/12/0353200
> http://www.mercurynews.com/mld/mercurynews/news/politics/14076456.htm
> I have my suspicions about a certain party that uses a "handle". :-)
I'm sure there are lotsa str
Jones wrote:
> If your throw the switch off and let the caps charge for several
> days (they will slowly charge) ... and then get the camera ready
> and flip the switch, you can probably get the bulb to stay lit
> long enough to get a convincing image.
Despite my natural level of skepticism,
Standing Bear wrote:
> Lets get one thing straight here. Ethnologically
> and biologically, the Semite people are ALL the
> people of the fertile crescent and their descendants.
> Thatmeans not only Israeliis, but Arabs, Chaldeans,
> Medes, many Egyptians, Yemenis, Adenites, Djiboutians,
> and
Jones wrote:
> This may be for interest to anti-gravity or gravimagnetic theory:
> http://www.angelfire.com/scifi/EclipseLab/2k1/EG/cellgrav.html
> Executive Summary: This is very important, according to the modest
> assesssment of the experimenter, as an experiment because it
> confirms that
Jones wrote:
> It is amazing that we don't speak the mother-tongue here in the
> States - since if you were to count the Scots and Irish separately
> from the English (and you damn well better) then the largest ethic
> population in the USA is German - not English. Almost as many here
> as ov
Hey, nice work! This is something I've been meaning to
get around to for years.
M.
Original Message==
After reading Bill Beaty's comments, I took another stab at it, and
actually got a result!
With a #6B artist's pencil I drew (free-hand) two dark solid lines on a
sheet of
I haven't messed with this for a while, so I just stuck
a couple of aluminum strips cut from a pie plate into
a drinking glass full of saturated borax solution. The
aluminum strips were hooked in series with a 65 watt
light bulb plugged into 120 volts AC.
The light bulb turned on at full brightn
Fred wrote:
> I was scooped by this 1996 patent (US 5,503,351) for using a
> 10-15 HP lawnmower engine and radial diffuser plates at the tip
> of the 4 ft diameter x 18 inch blade, 600 RPM,(~12,000 CFM)
> radial fan (squirrel cage wheel?) to get torque cancelation and better
> airflow over
David Jonsson wrote:
> This effect can not be so unknown as some say.
> The inventor even says the effect is unknown.
> http://www.rexresearch.com/blomgren/blomgren.htm
> I think it is easy. Thermal motion causes the charges
> to emit radiation.
I've played around with this effect a little.
Horace wrote:
> These people never heard of cathodic protection systems?
> You can just bet the ground interface is not aluminum.
> The energy providing consumable here is probably aluminum.
> Aluminum is a non-organic BTW.
Actually, there might be something to this, other than a
simple electro
Robin wrote:
> If the electrodes do indeed form diodes, and the glow occurs
> during reverse bias, then that is when a high voltage falls across
> a very thin chemical layer. The electron leakage current could be
> sufficiently accelerated to produce energetic electrons capable of
> exciting
Fred wrote:
> Since exploding wire technology is employed to
> maximize energy density, but is slow and cumbersome,
> why not a jet of electrolyte or metal to effect
> kilojoule-megajoule energy discharge of capacitor
> banks?
> For instance a pool of Lithium Hydroxide Electrolyte,
> D2 Gas, or
Fred wrote:
> Things might get really interesting if Pd wires are
> exploded in a 200-400 atmosphere pressure D2 gas.
Sounds like a really low cost (ahem) thermo-
nuclear device. Or would you need to add a
dash of tritium?
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Fred wrote:
> Michael Foster asks:
>>
>
>> Could some CF be going on in these crystals unnoticed? In
>> other words, if you measure the optical energy of the laser
>> wavelength going in, the unconverted laser energy, the
>> energy of the doubled wavelen
Stephen A. Lawrence wrote:
> Assuming you live in the Northland, where the humidity drops into one's
> shoes time time of year)
> Hang a paper snowflake from the ceiling, using tape and a thread. (Or,
> better yet, hang up several.)
> Blow up a latex balloon (the old-fashioned rubbery ki
Fred wrote:
> Known-Measured Effects related to the Brillouin Effect:
> Lamb Shift.
> Raman Effect (Stokes and AntiStokes lines)..
> Compton Effect.
> This (Stimulated Brillouin Scattering) research covers a lot:
> http://www.nat.vu.nl/atom/thesis-iavor.pdf
This discussion brings up a
Here is an interesting story about people converting
from using natural gas or electricity to burning
corn in specially designed stoves to heat their homes:
http://www.breitbart.com/news/2005/12/09/051209141924.flu6l9pn.html
Apparently the cost of burning the corn is about a third of
that of na
If there is an acoustic equivalent of the laser,
that would be the simple whistle. Coherent waves
of sound are emitted, capable of many of the same
phenomena as coherent light. Constructive and
destructive interference can be demonstrated, along
with numerous other properties associated with las
Harry Veeder wrote:
> Michael Foster wrote:
>> Actually, I think that problem that has sickened science
>> is not the craving for certainty. It is the compulsion to
>> consensus that has caused the outrageous behavior of the
>> "scientific community
Robin wrote:
> Subconsciously all humans crave certainty, which is
> why we are so unwilling to give it up just when we
> think we have hold of a large chunk of it.
> Of course in reality, there is no such thing as
> certainty, so our struggle is either endless, or
> we settle for delusion.
A
Harry Veeder posted:
> The physics of 9/11 - including how fast and symmetrically
> one of the World Trade Center buildings fell - prove that official
> explanations of the collapses are wrong, says a Brigham Young
> University physics professor.
> In fact, it's likely that there were "pre-po
Ed wrote:
> An interesting graph. However, the scatter
> in the data creates an uncertainty that makes
> a constant interest equally likely. Based on
> a constant interest, the average is 79 ± 14,
> with ICCF-1 and ICCF-3 being outliers at both
> extremes.
I have no idea what Jed is predicting;
And to think they're not allowing any cold
fusion patents.
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Jones wrote:
> In particular, the situation with the Iraq war
> betrayal and treachery was absolutely deplorable
> to Cheney, Rummy & Co. - even though Chirac's
> judgment proved to be correct (adding insult to
> injury) - this is certainly a buildup for a
> certain kind of behind-the-scenes "
Jones wrote:
> - although the worst kept secret in nuclear engineering
> is that there is a huge anomaly in how many "free" neutrons
> one gets from a deuterium moderator.
Would you care to elaborate?
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Jones wrote:
> Magnetohydrodynamic methods can generate electricity
> through natural ionization in plain-old water. At the level of
> the micro-channel, you do not even need to "split" the
> water. This kind of process should make Fred Sparber
> happy, as he has mentioned that the "natural" ion
Oh yeah, Ronnie is really ambitious. If you read his
"radiant energy" water dissociation patent application,
you find that it depends on a membrane that separates
monatomic hydrogen from monatomic oxygen and water vapor.
The nature of this membrane is unspecified in the patent
app. However, I th
Damn, Jed, that's a hell of a well thought out riposte.
OTOH, the number of subscribers to the Salt Lake City
Weekly Reporter is probably smaller than the number of
subscribers to this list.
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The most personal
Just another Chicken Little running around in
metaphorical circles shouting, "The sky is
falling! The sky is falling!"
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I don't think I could possibly agree more with what
you have put forth here. I can only say, "Yea, verily."
I was unaware of Mizumo's low temp D2 magnetic field
experiment. I need to read through all the stuff on
Jed's website more thoroughly. I have the D2; I usually
have liquid nitrogen on ha
Fred wrote:
> Astute calculations show that dissociation
> of an Iodine molecule at the filament, with
> uptake and subsequent discharge of an
> electron attached to an Iodine atom
> at the bulb (internal) reflector coating could
> yield up to 20 amperes at ~ 0.5 volts from
> the 12 watts of so
Fred wrote:
> I pointed a 250 watt heat lamp at the sun coming through a double-pane window
> with a DVM hooked to the terminals.
> Surprisingly after a couple of minutes there wasn't any readable voltage,
> but there was a couple of microamps of current flow which dropped off as the
> filamen
Thanks for the ref, Alex.
Check this out:
> DAYTIME ONLY
> Why hasn't Stirling Energy's technology made more
> of a splash in the power business? "Our dilemma
> has always been how to get costs down," explains
> Osborn. The dish assemblies now run $250,000
> each. But that's because most have
Rhong Dhong wrote:
> Depolymerization supposedly makes oil out of just
> about anything.
> How does DP compare in this respect with other methods
> to process oil shale into oil?
> Would it be possible to turn out the oil from it much
> faster and with simpler processing than with corncobs
> a
Keith wrote:
> So presumably as you go inland, the levels drop off.
> How fast do they do so? And what numbers did you measure?
I never made any inland measurements. I just got a bug up
my *** one day when I was taking my boat out and took the
chromatagraph with me. I was damn lucky I didn't d
Keith wrote:
> I'm glad you took some measurements, but I'm confused
> by your results. If you see no drop off from 1
> to 5 miles inland, how do you know the results are
> coming from the ocean? Another source listed
> on the EPA site is burning biomass. I recall you've
> had quite a bit of tha
Keith wrote:
> Hi Michael,
> Perhaps you should actually check what the EPA sez about Methyl Chloride?
> http://www.epa.gov/ttn/atw/hlthef/methylch.html
> Methinks you've been inhaling too much Vortex of recent,
> it has a corrosive effect on common sense (grin).
> K.
I have read it. That's
Fred wrote:
> If you are referring to the Hero Engine the calculator
> gives ammonia as well as Methyl Chloride CH3Cl. Either
> should do okay in Green's "steam engine" too but I don't
> think you want to mess with it or Methyl Chloride!. :-(
Now Fred, you shouldna got me started. Usually, outf
And here I thought I was the only one to have a theory
wacked-out enough to believe that space is actually
the highest density stuff around, and that everything
in it is just wave forms. I was going to mention how
my pet crackpot theory meshes nicely with your Beta-
atmosphere idea, but now I see
Jones wrote:
> Pyrolysis (thermal decomposition) of water normally requires lots of
> high temperature thermal energy, plus a means to avoid immediate
> recombination - but what about catalytic pyrolysis?
There's no theoretical reason why catalytic pyrolysis couldn't work,
and at much lower temp
Frank wrote:
> Now firstly - let's get the idea of gravity out of the way.
> This has no more to do with gravity than Naudin's lifters.
> It is clearly a electromagnetic effect of the same type as
> Hutchison's and Shoulders's. After all, it is the result of
> an electromagnetic pulse moderated b
After spending a couple of night sweating whether I
was going to be evacuated, or worse yet, loosing the
new house I've been living in for only four months,
I began to wonder how many MW hours per acre were going
up in smoke.
I suppose it's akin to wondering how much power could be
could be extra
Actually, I'd say don't buy the hype, but buy the car anyway.
It's true that if many of the features incorporated into the
Prius were incorporated into a non-hybrid you could have a
car that got within shaving distance of the same mileage for
$3000 less.
By buying a hybrid, you help advance the t
High taxation and big government spending = corruption. What a surprise.
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Standing Bear wrote:
> About face. Ghandi was lucky! Just 80 years earlier a far different Britain
> in 1857 conducted mass executions of all who would stand in their way,
> especially if those waystanders were not white Anglo-Saxon protestants.
> One picture showed ranks of cannon, each with a S
Standing Bear wrote:
> All that four dollar gas price is going to do is guarantee a depression and
> radicalization of our politics as the poor finally are driven to find their
> voice. The better solution and a better one for political stability is to
> impose rationing. Another solution would b
Jed wrote:
> Remarkable. See:
> http://www.pureenergysystems.com/news/2004/09/14/6900043_Solar_Hydrogen/
Remarkable indeed. I've following the progress of this system
for a while, and was somewhat skeptical of the claims. However,
it seems they have something here.
OTOH, look at the size, sc
Jed wrote:
> The other day I complained about economists who still say demand for oil is
> "inelastic." The 1970s oil crisis proved that is not true. However, as
> these two articles show, short-term demand is inelastic compared to other
> commodities. There are some easy steps that people co
>>You can't make a phenomenon happen by popular vote, going on a march,
>>praying or endorsement by pop idol. It just isn't like that.
John Fields wrote:
---
> Wrong. Take a look at Ghandi and what he forced the UK to do
> without his use of physical force.
Sorry, I just can't let this one go, n
My recent posts about super cheap fresnel solar concentrators
have generated a lot more interest than I would have imagined.
Some have expressed, both on and off-list, that this might help
energy problems in the third world. This is a perfectly valid
concern, and one which I happen to share. After
That's kind of funny. Somewhere on Bill's website is
a description of the same thing done, I believe, back
in the 70s.
This really amounts to yet another energy offset scheme.
The only practical candidate for this method is aluminum,
and, as we all know, that takes huge amounts of electrical
ene
Jed wrote:
So I guess we'll just rely on
Gasoline at three, uh..four, no..five bucks a gallon
And climate temperatures that soar.
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Frederick Sparber wrote:
> Why not just fly a very large fleet of jumbo jets and military aircraft
> stacked at intervals in the right direction. Their 1800+ exhausts and
> condensible water vapor from a million barrels of jet fuel ~ 5.5 trillion
> BTU plus it's kinetic energy might make it. ???
No, not that one. I tried this about five years ago. And now,
given the present situation, I think it deserves a second
look. I sometimes try things for no rational reason. It's a
compulsion. I can't help myself.
Anyway, maybe someone else should try this out. I hooked
up one of those old
(I wrote:)
>> Yes, and so much worse than those non-racist bigots we used to
>> have.
Jones Beene wrote:
> If you are implying the two words are synonomous, that is
> incorrect. A racist is a subset, but in fact the great majority of
> bigots are not overtly racist. Case in point: the term 'bigo
Remy wrote:
>However the BBC and other UK providers have dropped "Received Pronunciation"
>and we are greeted with wild accents ranging from Brummie to Jordie. Nothing
>wrong with this as long as it is mild and correct and this does much to drop
>the comic connotations associated with such accent
When I was a child, I had my first "scientific debate".
I think vorts will find the line of reasoning very
familiar.
This was a long, long time ago. Truman was still President.
I was attending what today would be called a pre-school. It
was quite a nice place with well-behaved children.
I rememb
Jones Beene wrote:
> Agreed. Turner is not just nuts - but a racist bigot. Definitely
> Klan material.
Yes, and so much worse than those non-racist bigots we used to have.
Did anyone else happen to see the eyewitnesses say that it was an
untethered barge that ran into the levee and broke it? O
Ed wrote:
>I hope you notice that this issue is very one sided. I have no problem
>with Swartz other than he can not carry on what I consider to be a
>useful discussion of either his work or of the issue he considers to be
>censorship. His main problem with me has been my disagreement with his
One of my all-time favorite coolest inventions is a reflective
fresnel solar concentrator invented by a guy named Richard
Steenblik. He's a Georgia Tech grad, Jed. This amazingly
clever device works like this: You cut a piece of flexible
metallized plastic into a spiral and lay it down on a ri
Colin Quinney wrote:
> Does ( or can ) the manufacturing method of 65 inch wide Fresnel sheeting
> focus a trough line? This would allow a pipe to be placed at the focal
> point. Could a pipe would get hot enough to run liquid salt ? - most
> probably not - but I'm sure there are other ideas out
Harry Veeder wrote:
> Could you use your fresnel lens to get
> more electricity per unit area on a
> photovoltaic cell? The objective of
> the lens would be to concentrate the
> light rather than focus the light.
In this case, focus and concentrate mean
the same thing. There are photovoltaics
m
Robin van Spaandonk wrote:
>Michael Foster wrote:
>>Conversely, imagine this cheap stuff stapled to a cheap
>>wooden or maybe tubular plastic frame. You blast it with
>>a heat gun or perhaps even hold it over an open fire
>>and the film shrinks tight as a drum, giving
You been out dynamiting stumps again, Fred?
No error, at least no arithmetic error. Was
this a trick question you used to give physics
students?
Your question hinges on what is probably an
erroneous assumption. That assumption is that
the hydrogen and oxygen are generated
in their nascent state a
You been out dynamiting stumps again, Fred?
No error, at least no arithmetic error. Was
this a trick question you used to give physics
students?
Your question hinges on what is probably an
erroneous assumption. That assumption is that
the hydrogen and oxygen are generated
in their nascent stat
Robin wrote:
> What would it add to the cost of a sq. meter,
> to sandwich the lens material between two flat
> sheets of polycarbonate, to add structural rigidity?
Thanks for the interest, Robin. This is the perfect
question. Polycarbonate is a pricey plastic, shatter
resistant, but kind of
As one of the nuts not covered with quite enough
chocolate for your tastes, I have a couple of
comments on this subject. I read the papers on
your thermoelectric research and I must say it
looks quite promising. These papers were written
in a style slightly less opaque than the standard
technica
Jones wrote:
(Infected with the pox were)
> Christopher Columbus, Ludwig van Beethoven,
> Robert Schumann, Franz Schubert, Flaubert,
> Charles Baudelaire, Guy de Maupassant, Abraham
> Lincoln, Vincent van Gogh, Friedrich Nietzsche,
> Oscar Wilde, James Joyce, Adolf Hitler and
> Isak Dinesen.
Jed wrote:
> The problem is, by the time the debate
> is fully settled it may be too late
> to do stave off a catastrophe. We must
> act on the basis of incomplete and
> unsure information.
But Jed, isn't that exact logic W used
to invade Iraq? (The devil made me write
this. I have no control
Do those clever folks at eBay know something we don't?
I noticed this ad when looking over the Vort posts on
mail-archive.com.
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Reactors
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Naturally, I clicked on the link to see what would come
up, bu
I failed to make a number of points in my fresnel lens post.
It was Strother Martin syndrome, "What we have heah is a
failyah to commun'cate."
I really must emphasize again how much cheaper my
fresnel stuff is, less than a dollar per square meter. The
thickness, weight and tensile strength combi
A number of recent posts on this list have concerned various schemes
to use solar concentrators. This is something I've been fascinated with
and have played around with all my life.
I own a company that manufactures, among other things, fresnel lens
arrays. Unfortunately, these have been used e
Fred, I'm a little confused by this information. Does this
process only work with starch, or will cellulose do as well?
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Jed wrote:
> This discussion about buying D2O has gotten off the track. It is quite
> clear to me D2O has become more difficult to purchase, and so have many
> other chemicals. Ed Storms has told us that although he can get D2O, he has
> to go through bureaucratic rigmarole. The government is cra
Jones wrote:
> No, not a misspell of 'dessert ice' (not this time anyway)...
> Poser-of-the-Day: Can anyone imagine making real ice, as in
> solid-water ice, but in the desert, using zero electricity and
> only natural forces?
I can absolutely imagine it. I used to do it when I was a kid.
Not
More on my vast left or right wing conspiracy theory of
cold fusion suppression.
On the subject of my possible low budget Pb207 isotope
separation I wrote:
>> I couldn't get any uranium because the nuclear section was
>> more or less off limits to me, and besides the melting point
>> is too high
Is Ed Storms actually a Super Double Secret Dysinformation
Agent who has penetrated the white knights of Vortex-L?
(Gasp!) I suppose not, but Ed's response to my original post
on the subject of possible cold fusion suppression was a little
funny. You know, Dimitri, just a little.funny.
On th
Is cold fusion being actively suppressed? Although I'm not
a fan of conspiracy theories, I believe it is. Is it the big oil
companies? Nah, they couldn't possibly be more bored with
the idea. Besides, any company that size usually moves
and makes decisions with the speed of a glacier. If CF
b
Jed wrote:
> We will also need oil for plastics and
> other synthetic materials. Today,
> roughly 20% of oil is used for such "non-
> fuel" applications. However, I expect it
> will be safer and cheaper to synthesize
> oil on site from garbage rather than to
> dig it out of the ground and tra
And here I thought I was the only one to have the
"SO2 experience". When I was about 12 years old,
I was hired by the local slumlord to fix all the
refrigerators in his crumbling awful apartment
buildings. These babies were really old and mostly
had ammonia refrigerant, probably illegal, even ba
Before all the superannuated socialists who largely populate this list get
your knickers in a twist, you should perhaps read Mr. Crichton's book.
I have read all of Michael Crichton's books including this one. It's really
not up to his normal standard in terms of being a novel. It's kind of sec
--- On Fri 06/10, Christopher Arnold < [EMAIL PROTECTED] > wrote:
> Subject: Prevailing Scientific Protocol?
> http://www.ucomics.com/nonsequitur/2005/06/08/
For the most part, yes. For a more elaborate discourse
on this subject and more, read this:
http://www.crichton-official.com/speeches/
--- On Fri 06/10, William Beaty < [EMAIL PROTECTED] > wrote:
> On Tue, 7 Jun 2005, Frederick Sparber wrote:
>> Why is this interesting?
>> http://www-methods.ch.cam.ac.uk/meth/ms/theory/esi.html.
> Also, electrospray may explain an electrostatic anomaly noticed by M
After you try complicated, you might want to try simple.
I found myself in a similar situation years ago and
was unable to move at the time. I built a white noise
generator with a low frequency bias, i.e. pink noise.
When you adjust the volume to the level that the offensive
noises no longer bo
Frederick wrote:
>> "Might a prolific electron emitter like Lanthanum Hexaboride or
>> Cesium Hexaboride serve better?"
Jones wrote:
> This is an interesting observation because - beside indicating
> that Frederick is a pretty good mind reader - it highlights one of
> the significant unanswe
According to Langmuir they do.
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>> I've actually been doing this off and on for about
>> three years, but said nothing on vortex because I
>> thought there would be little interest. And yes,
>> Jones, it does work. There are a few counter-intuitive
>> effects I've observed in playing around with it.
Jones wrote:
> By "work" ar
I've actually been doing this off and on for about
three years, but said nothing on vortex because I
thought there would be little interest. And yes,
Jones, it does work. There are a few counter-intuitive
effects I've observed in playing around with it.
First, non-polar fluids work far better th
Speaking of solar towers, does anyone know why Solar One,
which became Solar Two, was decommissioned? It was in Daggett,
CA, and was visible from I-15 on your way from Los Angeles to
Las Vegas. Steam-on-a-stick, as it was called, seemed to be
producing plenty of electricity, so why was it shut d
--- On Fri 05/06, Jed Rothwell < [EMAIL PROTECTED] > wrote:
> What if you could turn computers on and off as quickly as a light switch
> without having to wait for software to "boot up"? Sound like science fiction?"
> No, it sounds like 1962, or the core-memory central office telephone
> swi
Aw, c'mon, Bill. Don't you think you're being unkind to
the morally handicapped? I was sort of getting kick out
the dodging and weaving.
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It is well known that a high voltage AC corona source will
effectively discharge practically all electrostatic charges
from an insulator. Commercial devices based on this
principle are used to remove the static charges from
plastic films as they are wound through machinery.
In addition to such
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