Stephen A. Lawrence wrote:
>
> But electrons aren't simple electric charges, and if the electron's
> dipole isn't exactly perpendicular to the B field it's in, and if the
> field is nonuniform, the electron will feel a (linear) force acting on
> it, either up or down the field gradient depending
Stephen A. Lawrence wrote:
> But electrons aren't simple electric charges, and if the electron's
> dipole isn't exactly perpendicular to the B field it's in, and if the
> field is nonuniform, the electron will feel a (linear) force acting on
> it, either up or down the field gradient depending on
Jones Beene wrote:
- Original Message - From: "Stephen A. Lawrence"
I've recused myself from all technical debates on the reality or
possibility of OU magnetic motors until I come up with a good answer
to the following question:
When an electron is accelerated in a nonuniform magne
BlankJones wrote..
On one lower level there is the well-known prhenomenon of magentic
precession of domains in a permanent magnet (PM), no?
Precession involves angular momentum, no?
Angular momentum can be transfered, no?
If a PM is capable, at the domain level, of transfering some of
its pre
- Original Message -
From: "Stephen A. Lawrence"
I've recused myself from all technical debates on the reality or
possibility of OU magnetic motors until I come up with a good
answer to the following question:
When an electron is accelerated in a nonuniform magnetic field
due to the
Michel Jullian wrote:
Indeed it does.
Hi Terry, for another opinion Stephen could have a look at the
controversy you and I had about this some time ago, I had found what
looked very much like a large error in input current measurement by
analysing the Mosfet's voltage waveform and applying Oh
On 11/28/06, Michel Jullian <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Indeed it does.
Hi Terry, for another opinion Stephen could have a look at the controversy you
and I had about this some time ago, I had found what looked very much like a
large error in input current measurement by analysing the Mosfet'
to it knowing it's ON resistance (search for
Sprain in the list archive).
Michel
- Original Message -
From: "Terry Blanton" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To:
Sent: Tuesday, November 28, 2006 1:21 AM
Subject: Re: [Vo]: Re: Interesting News About Steorn
> On 11/27/06,
On 11/27/06, Stephen A. Lawrence <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
An example might be an electric motor which produced more mechanical
energy than the electrical energy it consumed -- to close the loop you
need to convert the mechanical energy back into electrical energy, which
introduces losses which
Rhong Dhong wrote:
"Stephen A. Lawrence" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
Rhong Dhong wrote:
> Stephen A. Lawrence wrote:
>>
>> Rhong Dhong wrote:
>>> Here's what I've been able to glean from their
> site.
>>> It is self-powered. There is no input.
>> No it's not.
Paul wrote:
--- "Stephen A. Lawrence" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
[snip]
Nothing in, something out => efficiency = infinity.
The concept of infinite efficiency is somewhat
interesting. Consider a black box that requires 100
watts input, and outputs 1 KW. When operating the
black box could the
On 11/27/06, Rhong Dhong <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
It isn't anything obvious, so maybe it is something
like Frank Grimer's gamma atmosphere.
You can count on it.
Whatever it is,
it just goes on and on and on, even to powering a
550bhp motor.
This is larger than the alleged Perendev magmo.
--- "Stephen A. Lawrence" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
[snip]
> Nothing in, something out => efficiency = infinity.
The concept of infinite efficiency is somewhat
interesting. Consider a black box that requires 100
watts input, and outputs 1 KW. When operating the
black box could theoretically do aw
"Stephen A. Lawrence" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
Rhong Dhong wrote:
> Stephen A. Lawrence wrote:
>>
>> Rhong Dhong wrote:
>>> Here's what I've been able to glean from their
> site.
>>> It is self-powered. There is no input.
>> No it's not.
>
> Right. The
Rhong Dhong wrote:
Stephen A. Lawrence wrote:
Rhong Dhong wrote:
Here's what I've been able to glean from their
site.
It is self-powered. There is no input.
No it's not.
Right. The ceo has said he does not know the source of
the energy.
It isn't anything obvious, so maybe it is somethi
On Sunday 26 November 2006 23:13, Stephen A. Lawrence wrote:
> Rhong Dhong wrote:
> > Here's what I've been able to glean from their site.
> >
> > It is self-powered. There is no input.
>
> No it's not.
>
> It has a COP>100% which means it produces more power than it consumes,
> but to have a meani
Stephen A. Lawrence wrote:
>
>
> Rhong Dhong wrote:
>> Here's what I've been able to glean from their
site.
>>
>> It is self-powered. There is no input.
>
> No it's not.
Right. The ceo has said he does not know the source of
the energy.
It isn't anything obvious, so maybe it is something
like
Rhong Dhong wrote:
Here's what I've been able to glean from their site.
It is self-powered. There is no input.
No it's not.
It has a COP>100% which means it produces more power than it consumes,
but to have a meaningful COP it _MUST_ consume power! Without input
COP=infinity.
Second, t
On 11/24/06, Jones Beene <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
OK for the record, TB is being sarcastic - yes, that generator may
have turned out to be only 50% efficient at very low speed, but is
still has very high efficiency potential - at anything above a
snail's pace - not my fault!
Not scarcism, pl
- Original Message -
From: "Terry Blanton"
Recently we were able to run an Ecosmart (neat story there)
generator to power a load at a net COP of about 3.2 including
the inefficiency ('bout 50%) of the PEM gen (thanks Jones!)
OK for the record, TB is being sarcastic - yes, that genera
On 11/24/06, Rhong Dhong <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
That's good to hear. Any idea when there will be a
public demonstration?
Well, there's already been several. Here's one vid that is still on the web:
http://overunity.com/sprain/sprain_motor_eg_show.asf
And, his test data is on this site:
apologies, later found quite a few more. i think this is all.
== Steorn ==
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UUqQKnSlPss Steorn develops free energy
technology?] 5minutes3seconds
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MDV9Al0e_T0 Steorn Power on Fox News
Interview] 3min35sec
Steorn will launch a revolution
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UUqQKnSlPss - Steorn original intro..
5minutes3seconds
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MDV9Al0e_T0 Steorn Power on Fox News
Interview 3min35sec
have fun m8s
On 11/24/06, Rhong Dhong <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
--- Terry Blanton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On 1
--- Terry Blanton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On 11/24/06, Rhong Dhong <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> wrote:
>
> > Sprain has demonstrated nothing that is OU, but
> > promises to do so soon.
>
> I have personally measured his original device to
> have a COP of 2.4.
> A revised configuration, which I am
On 11/24/06, Rhong Dhong <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
Sprain has demonstrated nothing that is OU, but
promises to do so soon.
I have personally measured his original device to have a COP of 2.4.
A revised configuration, which I am not yet at liberty to discuss, has
demonstrated a greater COP.
T
Here's what I've been able to glean from their site.
It is self-powered. There is no input.
They won't do demos because, they say, they'll be
put down as conmen unless a jury of reputable
scientists confirms the OU.
They'll announce their first products the day the jury
announces its verdict.
--- Jones Beene <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> - Original Message -
> From: Esa Ruoho
>
> > they can't say why its overunity - who would
> believe them?
> > that's why they went public and are picking out a
> row of
> > skeptical scientists to prove once and for all if
> its overunity
- Original Message -
From: Esa Ruoho
they can't say why its overunity - who would believe them?
that's why they went public and are picking out a row of
skeptical scientists to prove once and for all if its overunity
or not.
Forget all that. Can you answer the single critical issu
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