Re: [Vo]: Re: Re Van de Graaf Antics

2007-01-31 Thread Frederick Sparber
I think you made my job easier, Stephen, My VDG pumps electrons from the globe to earth ground, but I intend to pump them to a roll of heavy duty aluminum foil with isolation from ground using an inverter and D batteries to power the VDG and digital scale. Hence a three point triangle of spheres

Re: [Vo]: Re: Re Van de Graaf Antics

2007-01-30 Thread Frederick Sparber
Harry Veeder wrote Fred, Is your set-up capable of detecting either an increase or a decrease in weight? Yes Harry. It can be set on the Acculab 0-10 KG digital scale that has a resolution of +/- 1.0 gram at any load up to 10 KG. The 200 KV VDG weighs 1.5 KG allowing for Styrofoam

Re: [Vo]: Re: Re Van de Graaf Antics

2007-01-30 Thread Frederick Sparber
that requires charge reversal for getting past the ionosphere. http://www.cco.caltech.edu/~phys1/java/phys1/EField/EField.html [Original Message] From: Frederick Sparber [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: vortex-l@eskimo.com Date: 1/30/2007 4:51:38 AM Subject: Re: [Vo]: Re: Re Van de Graaf Antics

Re: [Vo]: Re: Re Van de Graaf Antics

2007-01-30 Thread Stephen A. Lawrence
] From: Frederick Sparber [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: vortex-l@eskimo.com Date: 1/30/2007 4:51:38 AM Subject: Re: [Vo]: Re: Re Van de Graaf Antics Harry Veeder wrote Fred, Is your set-up capable of detecting either an increase or a decrease in weight? Yes Harry. It can be set on the Acculab 0-10 KG

Re: [Vo]: Re: Re Van de Graaf Antics

2007-01-29 Thread Michel Jullian
? Michel - Original Message - From: Frederick Sparber [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: vortex-l@eskimo.com Sent: Saturday, January 27, 2007 6:15 PM Subject: Re: [Vo]: Re: Re Van de Graaf Antics Michel Jullian wrote. To: vortex-l@eskimo.com Date: 1/27/2007 9:56:21 AM Subject: Re: [Vo]: Re: Re

Re: [Vo]: Re: Re Van de Graaf Antics

2007-01-29 Thread Frederick Sparber
Why I think an isolated-charged conductor (Sphere or Cylinder) partially surrounded by a conductor (Sphere or Cylinder) of opposite charge will repel the earth's charge. http://f3wm.free.fr/sciences/jefimenko.html In spite of your skepticism Michel: F = k*q*Q/height^2 newtons. :-) Fred

Re: [Vo]: Re: Re Van de Graaf Antics

2007-01-29 Thread Michel Jullian
-l@eskimo.com Sent: Monday, January 29, 2007 7:56 PM Subject: Re: [Vo]: Re: Re Van de Graaf Antics Why I think an isolated-charged conductor (Sphere or Cylinder) partially surrounded by a conductor (Sphere or Cylinder) of opposite charge will repel the earth's charge. http://f3wm.free.fr

Re: [Vo]: Re: Re Van de Graaf Antics

2007-01-29 Thread Frederick Sparber
: Frederick Sparber [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: vortex-l vortex-l@eskimo.com Sent: Monday, January 29, 2007 7:56 PM Subject: Re: [Vo]: Re: Re Van de Graaf Antics Why I think an isolated-charged conductor (Sphere or Cylinder) partially surrounded by a conductor (Sphere or Cylinder) of opposite charge

Re: [Vo]: Re: Re Van de Graaf Antics

2007-01-29 Thread Harry Veeder
Fred, Is your set-up capable of detecting either an increase or a decrease in weight? Harry

[Vo]: Re: Re Van de Graaf Antics

2007-01-27 Thread Michel Jullian
Nice experiment Fred! Wrt the weight changes, it behaves qualitatively as expected doesn't it? Did the discharge hurt a lot? Michel - Original Message - From: Frederick Sparber [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: vortex-l@eskimo.com Sent: Saturday, January 27, 2007 1:29 PM Subject: [Vo]: Re Van de

RE: [Vo]: Re: Re Van de Graaf Antics

2007-01-27 Thread Frederick Sparber
Michel Jullian wrote. Nice experiment Fred! Wrt the weight changes, it behaves qualitatively as expected doesn't it? Thanks. Yes the leakage around the room and ion wind is pronounced too. Did the discharge hurt a lot? No, just startles you. I'm practicing with it so I can see if the VDG

RE: [Vo]: Re: Re Van de Graaf Antics

2007-01-27 Thread Frederick Sparber
Subject: RE: [Vo]: Re: Re Van de Graaf Antics Michel Jullian wrote. Nice experiment Fred! Wrt the weight changes, it behaves qualitatively as expected doesn't it? Thanks. Yes the leakage around the room and ion wind is pronounced too. Did the discharge hurt a lot? No, just

Re: [Vo]: Re: Re Van de Graaf Antics

2007-01-27 Thread Michel Jullian
] To: vortex-l vortex-l@eskimo.com Sent: Saturday, January 27, 2007 4:43 PM Subject: RE: [Vo]: Re: Re Van de Graaf Antics Oops, make that the reported 0.5 to 1.0 MegaCoulombs excess negative charge of the earth. I gather it's split between the surface and the positive charge of the ionosphere

Re: [Vo]: Re: Re Van de Graaf Antics

2007-01-27 Thread Frederick Sparber
Michel Jullian wrote. To: vortex-l@eskimo.com Date: 1/27/2007 9:56:21 AM Subject: Re: [Vo]: Re: Re Van de Graaf Antics Mmm if it has no net charge (not sure what you mean by wrt earth ground BTW, no net charge is absolute, zero Coulomb, unlike voltage which may be what you meant), why do

Re: [Vo]: Re: Re Van de Graaf Antics

2007-01-27 Thread thomas malloy
I had planned set it on the scale with it sitting atop an aluminum foil sheet laying on a 3 inch thick Styrofoam plank and using a bank of D batteries feeding an inverter feeding the scale and VDG so it can pump electrons between the globe and the foil so that there wouldn't' be any net