Re: [Vo]: Steorn question

2007-01-21 Thread Wesley Bruce
Robin van Spaandonk wrote: In reply to Stephen A. Lawrence's message of Tue, 16 Jan 2007 10:00:17 -0500: Hi, [snip] Because it doesn't. It's a magnetic motor -- permanent-magnet-based engine -- and there's no mechanism for it to steal heat from the environment, nor any evidence

Re: [Vo]: Steorn question

2007-01-21 Thread Philip Winestone
I have an intuitive feeling - totally unsubstantiated - that the law of energy conservation is to energy, what Newton's laws were to mechanics (or physics in general). I mean you can take a pound of any explosive and explain that the energy from that explosive is a direct (measurable) result

Re: [Vo]: Steorn question

2007-01-17 Thread Robin van Spaandonk
In reply to Stephen A. Lawrence's message of Tue, 16 Jan 2007 10:00:17 -0500: Hi, [snip] Because it doesn't. It's a magnetic motor -- permanent-magnet-based engine -- and there's no mechanism for it to steal heat from the environment, nor any evidence whatsoever that it does so. It's type-1

Re: [Vo]: Steorn question

2007-01-16 Thread Esa Ruoho
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B0BTJFPSBEA does this shed any light to the matter On 16/01/07, Esa Ruoho [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: http://steorn.com/en/news.aspx?p=2id=981 youtube and googlevideo do have quite a bit of steorn material on their archives. On 16/01/07, thomas malloy [EMAIL

Re: [Vo]: Steorn question

2007-01-16 Thread abundance
Why aren't people more clear about the steorn motor and say that it gets colder as it creates mechanical power? Then the motor would be a type of Ambient Heat Recycling machine which is revolutionary but possible. Diode array can compete with them. Reference: On Tue, 16 Jan 2007 10:46:05

Re: [Vo]: Steorn question

2007-01-16 Thread John Berry
Because it doesn't. On 1/16/07, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Why aren't people more clear about the steorn motor and say that it gets colder as it creates mechanical power? Then the motor would be a type of Ambient Heat Recycling machine which is revolutionary but possible. Diode

Re: [Vo]: Steorn question

2007-01-16 Thread Terry Blanton
www.steorn.net On 1/16/07, thomas malloy [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hoyt A. Stearns Jr. wrote: As luck may have it, the Steorn motor runs in reverse absorbing energy without getting hot -- 7.5 watts per gram of the motor. Problem solved. Did I mention that Steorn is licensing their technology?

Re: [Vo]: Steorn question

2007-01-16 Thread Michel Jullian
thing is a marketing stunt it's an excellent one. If it's a scam... it's an excellent one too :) Michel - Original Message - From: Terry Blanton [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: vortex-l@eskimo.com Sent: Tuesday, January 16, 2007 1:16 PM Subject: Re: [Vo]: Steorn question www.steorn.net On 1

Re: [Vo]: Steorn question

2007-01-16 Thread Stephen A. Lawrence
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Why aren't people more clear about the steorn motor and say that it gets colder as it creates mechanical power? Because it doesn't. It's a magnetic motor -- permanent-magnet-based engine -- and there's no mechanism for it to steal heat from the environment, nor

Re: [Vo]: Steorn question

2007-01-16 Thread Paul
Stephen A. Lawrence wrote: [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Why aren't people more clear about the steorn motor and say that it gets colder as it creates mechanical power? Because it doesn't. It's a magnetic motor -- permanent-magnet-based engine -- and there's no mechanism for it to steal

Re: [Vo]: Steorn question

2007-01-16 Thread Stephen A. Lawrence
Paul wrote: Stephen A. Lawrence wrote: [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Why aren't people more clear about the steorn motor and say that it gets colder as it creates mechanical power? Because it doesn't. It's a magnetic motor -- permanent-magnet-based engine -- and there's no

Re: [Vo]: Steorn question

2007-01-16 Thread Paul
Hi, Stephen A. Lawrence wrote: Paul wrote: Stephen A. Lawrence wrote: [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Why aren't people more clear about the steorn motor and say that it gets colder as it creates mechanical power? Because it doesn't. It's a magnetic motor --

Re: [Vo]: Steorn question

2007-01-16 Thread Stephen A. Lawrence
Paul wrote: Hi, [ snip bits on Steorn ] It's type-1 perpetual motion: violation of he first law, which is conservation of energy. If the Steorn otor works, then a Steorn motor operating in a closed nvironment will warm up that environment.

Re: [Vo]: Steorn question

2007-01-16 Thread Paul
Stephen A. Lawrence wrote: If, instead of an LED, you put a normal diode in parallel with a resistor, the diode should get warmer and the resistor cooler, as noise from the resistor is rectified and the electrons give up the 0.6 volts of junction energy when they fall down across the

RE: [Vo]: Steorn question

2007-01-16 Thread Hoyt A. Stearns Jr.
If you wade thru the thousands of posts in the steorn forum, it's obvious that Sean McCarthy is trying to provide much of the information necessary to build his device without compromising his patent applications. There are even summaries of what he's said. It's 7.5 watts/gram It's 0.5

Re: [Vo]: Steorn question

2007-01-16 Thread thomas malloy
Hoyt A. Stearns Jr. wrote: do you have any ideas using a heat engine or refrigeration plant and heat engine to drive a Steorn Absorber? If I had a F E machine, I'd build a small one and package it as a battery charger. Put a discharged battery in, spin the flywheel and some time later

RE: [Vo]: Steorn question

2007-01-16 Thread Hoyt A. Stearns Jr.
! ). -Original Message- From: thomas malloy [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, January 16, 2007 3:10 PM To: vortex-l@eskimo.com Subject: Re: [Vo]: Steorn question Hoyt A. Stearns Jr. wrote: do you have any ideas using a heat engine or refrigeration plant and heat engine to drive

Re: [Vo]: Steorn question

2007-01-16 Thread Paul
Hoyt A. Stearns Jr. wrote: ( I think that you could have taken several scientists we all know and driven them around in it for months without refueling and they'd still deny that it worked! ). I'd become a Steorn believer if the device cut the electric bills by at least half! That should

Re: [Vo]: Steorn question

2007-01-16 Thread Michel Jullian
(although it can be done too). Michel - Original Message - From: Paul [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: vortex-l@eskimo.com Sent: Tuesday, January 16, 2007 11:59 PM Subject: Re: [Vo]: Steorn question Hoyt A. Stearns Jr. wrote: ( I think that you could have taken several scientists we all know

[Vo]: Steorn question

2007-01-16 Thread thomas malloy
Hoyt A. Stearns Jr. wrote: If the scientific jury challenge had no takers, they would have build a Steorn car and paraded it around. ( I think that you could have taken several scientists we all know and driven them around in it for months without refueling and they'd still deny that it

[Vo]: Steorn question

2007-01-15 Thread thomas malloy
Hoyt A. Stearns Jr. wrote: As luck may have it, the Steorn motor runs in reverse absorbing energy without getting hot -- 7.5 watts per gram of the motor. Problem solved. Did I mention that Steorn is licensing their technology? The question is, do they have anything to license? Do you have a

Re: [Vo]: Steorn question

2007-01-15 Thread Esa Ruoho
http://steorn.com/en/news.aspx?p=2id=981 youtube and googlevideo do have quite a bit of steorn material on their archives. On 16/01/07, thomas malloy [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hoyt A. Stearns Jr. wrote: As luck may have it, the Steorn motor runs in reverse absorbing energy without getting hot