Re: [Vo]:A new article mostly about Defkalion in Greek

If Rossi is lying, so is Defkalion, they are playing the same gaming now. 2011/11/20 Mary Yugo > > > On Sun, Nov 20, 2011 at 11:19 AM, Daniel Rocha wrote: > >> We don't know what kind of ecat they wanted Rossi to show. >> > > I'm going to guess that they wanted to see the kind that works. I wil

Re: [Vo]:A new article mostly about Defkalion in Greek

On Sun, Nov 20, 2011 at 11:19 AM, Daniel Rocha wrote: > We don't know what kind of ecat they wanted Rossi to show. > I'm going to guess that they wanted to see the kind that works. I will further venture that they would have settled for any table top nuclear fusion reactor that *they* could prov

Re: [Vo]:A new article mostly about Defkalion in Greek

We don't know what kind of ecat they wanted Rossi to show. 2011/11/20 Peter Gluck > Defkalion's CEO says about the 48 hours work condition in this paper. > > If the E-cat has heated the office for two years, then it seems later it > made serious regress. You can show any photography, how could

Re: [Vo]:A new article mostly about Defkalion in Greek

Defkalion's CEO says about the 48 hours work condition in this paper. If the E-cat has heated the office for two years, then it seems later it made serious regress. You can show any photography, how could we know that the thing heats indeed? As regarding Prof Focardi who; a) tacitly accepts the

Re: [Vo]:A new article mostly about Defkalion in Greek

We don't know what kind of ecat they wanted a proof. 2011/11/20 Peter Gluck > > > On Sun, Nov 20, 2011 at 7:36 PM, Jed Rothwell wrote: > >> Peter Gluck wrote: >> >> They are technologically skilled, good engineers and have refused >>> to pay for an immature and unsafe product. >>> >> >> Who are

Re: [Vo]:A new article mostly about Defkalion in Greek

On Sun, Nov 20, 2011 at 1:26 PM, Mary Yugo wrote: > Anyone know when the countdown to this event started?   Just curious when to > look for it. A week from Monday. T

Re: [Vo]:A new article mostly about Defkalion in Greek

On Sun, Nov 20, 2011 at 10:29 AM, Terry Blanton wrote: > Funny that they use the term "The Three Musketeers of Cold Fusion" in > the caption of the first picture. > Maybe because someone's nose is lengthening?

Re: [Vo]:A new article mostly about Defkalion in Greek

On 2011-11-20 19:26, Mary Yugo wrote: Anyone know when the countdown to this event started? Just curious when to look for it. On November 14th DGT announced: "We will release a complete outline of our developments within the next two weeks". http://www.defkalion-energy.com/files/DGT_PRESS

Re: [Vo]:A new article mostly about Defkalion in Greek

Peter Gluck wrote: > Jed, it seems there was a point in the contract, that the E-cat should > work continuously for at least 48 hours- and it didn't. Ah. You refer to the Sept. 6 test done by "Quantum engineers and NASA, but which fails due to leakage." Yes, Rossi's prototype equipment often f

Re: [Vo]:A new article mostly about Defkalion in Greek

November 14, take a look to the Defkalion Forum. http://www.defkalion-energy.com/files/DGT_PRESS%20RELEASE_2011-11-14.pdf On Sun, Nov 20, 2011 at 8:26 PM, Mary Yugo wrote: > > > On Sun, Nov 20, 2011 at 10:24 AM, Akira Shirakawa < > shirakawa.ak...@gmail.com> wrote: > > We might know if it's rea

Re: [Vo]:A new article mostly about Defkalion in Greek

Funny that they use the term "The Three Musketeers of Cold Fusion" in the caption of the first picture. That is what I called Jed Rothwell, Eugene Mallove and Chris Tinsley back in the day. T

Re: [Vo]:A new article mostly about Defkalion in Greek

On Sun, Nov 20, 2011 at 1:24 PM, Akira Shirakawa wrote: > On 2011-11-20 19:15, Terry Blanton wrote: > >> Consider the possibility that, having failed in the deal with Rossi, >> Defkalion made a deal with Piantelli. > > Interesting speculation. We might know if it's really the case in about two > w

Re: [Vo]:A new article mostly about Defkalion in Greek

On Sun, Nov 20, 2011 at 10:24 AM, Akira Shirakawa wrote: We might know if it's really the case in about two weeks of time (Defkalion > GT announcement). > Anyone know when the countdown to this event started? Just curious when to look for it.

Re: [Vo]:A new article mostly about Defkalion in Greek

On 2011-11-20 19:15, Terry Blanton wrote: Consider the possibility that, having failed in the deal with Rossi, Defkalion made a deal with Piantelli. Interesting speculation. We might know if it's really the case in about two weeks of time (Defkalion GT announcement). It would be a tragicomic

Re: [Vo]:A new article mostly about Defkalion in Greek

On Sun, Nov 20, 2011 at 1:08 PM, Mary Yugo wrote: > > > On Sun, Nov 20, 2011 at 9:51 AM, Akira Shirakawa > wrote: >> >> It looks like the very same one to me ... Same photo. > > > Thanks!  That issue is resolved! > > So what does it have to do with Defkalion other than to puff up the > publicatio

RE: [Vo]:A new article mostly about Defkalion in Greek

The article mentions Piantelli's new patent. I would assume that the author ran across the photo during that aspect of research, and failed to properly attribute it to Piantelli's nickel production. Date: Sun, 20 Nov 2011 10:08:08 -0800 Subject: Re: [Vo]:A new article mostly about De

Re: [Vo]:A new article mostly about Defkalion in Greek

On Sun, Nov 20, 2011 at 9:51 AM, Akira Shirakawa wrote: > > It looks like the very same one to me ... Same photo. > Thanks! That issue is resolved! So what does it have to do with Defkalion other than to puff up the publication's piece? Anyone know?

Re: [Vo]:A new article mostly about Defkalion in Greek

On Sun, Nov 20, 2011 at 7:36 PM, Jed Rothwell wrote: > Peter Gluck wrote: > > They are technologically skilled, good engineers and have refused >> to pay for an immature and unsafe product. >> > > Who are they? Who refused to pay, for what? > > I don't see that in the article. > > This translati

Re: [Vo]:A new article mostly about Defkalion in Greek

On 2011-11-20 18:44, Peter Gluck wrote: The test chamber is indeed very similar to Piantelli's high vacuum installation of Molecular Beam Epitaxy (see my 3rd paper abou Piantelli in my Blog). It looks like the very same one to me: http://newenergytimes.com/v2/news/2008/29img/PiantelliKnudsenMac

Re: [Vo]:A new article mostly about Defkalion in Greek

Mary Yugo wrote: > So it's inappropriate for Defkalion (or the magazine article writers) to > make use of it without attribution. > I expect a copy editor misplaced the caption. You should not make accusations of nefarious behavior every time a magazine makes a minor error. > It's also inapp

Re: [Vo]:A new article mostly about Defkalion in Greek

The test chamber is indeed very similar to Piantelli's high vacuum installation of Molecular Beam Epitaxy (see my 3rd paper abou Piantelli in my Blog). The Greek installation is: " The engine configuration of the grains of Nickel in vacuum" i.e. has the same function- manufacture of Ni nanoclusters

Re: [Vo]:A new article mostly about Defkalion in Greek

Akira Shirakawa wrote: > I think that is a photograph of the very expensive equipment Piantelli > uses to make his nickel powder. I remember seeing that somewhere else. > Powder, or bulk Pd? I have some similar photos from Piantelli taken many years ago. This is the kind of professional grade

Re: [Vo]:A new article mostly about Defkalion in Greek

On Sun, Nov 20, 2011 at 9:34 AM, Akira Shirakawa wrote: > On 2011-11-20 18:30, Jed Rothwell wrote: > > That looks like one of Piantelli's experiments. Not sure, but I think >> that's what it is. >> > > I think that is a photograph of the very expensive equipment Piantelli > uses to make his nicke

Re: [Vo]:A new article mostly about Defkalion in Greek

Peter Gluck wrote: They are technologically skilled, good engineers and have refused > to pay for an immature and unsafe product. > Who are they? Who refused to pay, for what? I don't see that in the article. This translation is remarkably good, for a machine. A little hard to follow in places

Re: [Vo]:A new article mostly about Defkalion in Greek

On 2011-11-20 18:30, Jed Rothwell wrote: That looks like one of Piantelli's experiments. Not sure, but I think that's what it is. I think that is a photograph of the very expensive equipment Piantelli uses to make his nickel powder. I remember seeing that somewhere else. Cheers, S.A.

Re: [Vo]:A new article mostly about Defkalion in Greek

They are technologically skilled, good engineers and have refused to pay for an immature and unsafe product. Excess heat is only a necessary, but not a sufficient condition for an Energy Source. Rossi's E-cat has worked (was functional) but did not worked well. Defkalion, it seems, has defined the

Re: [Vo]:A new article mostly about Defkalion in Greek

Terry Blanton wrote: > Did you see the test chamber at the end of the article? > That looks like one of Piantelli's experiments. Not sure, but I think that's what it is. - Jed

Re: [Vo]:A new article mostly about Defkalion in Greek

On Sun, Nov 20, 2011 at 9:26 AM, Terry Blanton wrote: > On Sun, Nov 20, 2011 at 11:52 AM, Mary Yugo wrote: > > Original URL: http://www.tovima.gr/science/article/?aid=430840 > > > > Somewhat garbled Google translate: http://tinyurl.com/6mszlt4 > > Did you see the test chamber at the end of th

Re: [Vo]:A new article mostly about Defkalion in Greek

There is also the part about the escrow account. 2011/11/20 Mary Yugo > Original URL: http://www.tovima.gr/science/article/?aid=430840 > > Somewhat garbled Google translate: > *http://tinyurl.com/6mszlt4* > > So they claim they paid Rossi $15 million if I understa

Re: [Vo]:A new article mostly about Defkalion in Greek

On Sun, Nov 20, 2011 at 11:52 AM, Mary Yugo wrote: > Original URL:   http://www.tovima.gr/science/article/?aid=430840 > > Somewhat garbled Google translate:  http://tinyurl.com/6mszlt4 Did you see the test chamber at the end of the article? T

Re: [Vo]:A new article mostly about Defkalion in Greek

It says they had $15 million ready but Rossi did not complete the contract. That means they never paid Rossi the money and now they seem to be claiming the technology is all theirs. "- *So the rift between you was not due only to non-payment of first installment repayment, said Mr. Rossi?* /

[Vo]:A new article mostly about Defkalion in Greek

Original URL: http://www.tovima.gr/science/article/?aid=430840 Somewhat garbled Google translate: *http://tinyurl.com/6mszlt4* So they claim they paid Rossi $15 million if I understand it right. If it's true, he should have been able to fund U of B research for some