Jones Beene reports that it may be impossible to transfer 16 kW or 130 kW
from a 1 L steel cell a flow of water. To test this hypothesis, I looked at
two examples of heat transfer, in a tankless water heater, and a nuclear
power plant.
The tankless heater is Niagara brand 12 kW electrically fired
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To: vortex-l@eskimo.com
Subject: [Vo]:Heat transfer in a water heater and nuclear plant
Jones Beene reports that it may be impossible to transfer 16 kW or 130 kW
from a 1 L steel cell a flow of water. To test this hypothesis, I looked at
two examples of heat transfer, in a tankless water
Jones Beene jone...@pacbell.net wrote:
You are using the wrong criteria, as I understand the situation. The
‘volume’ of the heater is relatively unimportant compared to the surface
area exposed to water flow, the time of exposure and the metal transferring
the heat.
Yes, I know. I pointed
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From: OrionWorks - Steven V Johnson
In the meantime, I suspect Mr. Beene will probably not find Mr.
Rothwell's analysis convincing, and I fully expect a counter response.
Wow - I realize that this Rossi device could be the most important development
in Energy for
Jones sez:
...
Wow - I realize that this Rossi device could be the most
important development in Energy for some extended time ...
hmmm, the Neolithic age comes to mind, according to
Randy :) ... but this may be the first time in Vortician-land
for having a play-by-play and ongoing
On Mon, Apr 18, 2011 at 1:52 PM, Jones Beene jone...@pacbell.net wrote:
On 04/18/2011 01:52 PM, Jones Beene wrote:
You are using the wrong criteria, as I understand the situation. The
'volume' of the heater is relatively unimportant compared to the
surface area exposed to water flow, the time of exposure and the metal
transferring the heat. With a tubular
On Mon, Apr 18, 2011 at 2:27 PM, Jones Beene jone...@pacbell.net wrote:
I was hoping it would be Ines Sainz...
You called this moderate?
http://blogs.dallasobserver.com/sportatorium/2011/02/ines_sainz_nice_booty_nicer_pe.php
I wonder who painted those?
T
On a more serious note, someone who may have achieved some street
creed with Rossi might want to pop this interesting heat transfer
question to Ross at his blog. It might be interesting to see how Rossi
responds. Could be highly revealing.
Peter Gluck, comes to mind as the volunteer for his
From: Jed Rothwell
* Similar stainless steel surfaces in teapots transfer heat at roughly this
rate without difficulty.
Nonsense. Water going thru the Rossi reactor is in contact with the reactor
only for milliseconds ! A teapot takes minutes to boil.
. or even longer, if you are
Jones Beene jone...@pacbell.net wrote:
Ø Similar stainless steel surfaces in teapots transfer heat at roughly
this rate without difficulty.
Nonsense. Water going thru the Rossi reactor is in contact with the reactor
only for milliseconds ! A teapot takes minutes to boil.
This assertion
Jones Beene jone...@pacbell.net wrote:
Thus there is at least a 1000:1 error in that anecdotal appraisal, which is
not a surprise, given how much of an emotional stake seems to be involved.
You can appraise any electrical hot water heater and see that it transfers
heat at a higher rate than
I like to ask answerable questions, and I could not formulate this one
without touching know how elements. Plus we had some indirect dialogue with
Rossi re. the role of Piantelli's work in the area of Ni-H LENR. Rossi has
declared that his system is different from Piantelli's.
So I have asked him
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Subject: EXTERNAL: Re: [Vo]:Heat transfer in a water heater and nuclear plant
Jones Beene jone...@pacbell.netmailto:jone...@pacbell.net wrote:
Thus there is at least a 1000:1 error in that anecdotal appraisal, which
On Mon, Apr 18, 2011 at 3:51 PM, Roarty, Francis X
francis.x.roa...@lmco.com wrote:
Maybe hydrinos improve heat transfer? They should carry more energy in a
“smaller” volume effectively increasing the internal surface area. Just
because
We never see them at STP doesn’t mean they can’t exist
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Subject: Re: [Vo]:Heat transfer in a water heater and nuclear plant
I like to ask answerable questions, and I could not formulate this one
without touching know how elements. Plus we had some indirect dialogue with
Rossi re. the role of
Piantelli's work in the area of Ni-H LENR. Rossi has
In reply to Jones Beene's message of Mon, 18 Apr 2011 10:52:44 -0700:
Hi,
[snip]
You are using the wrong criteria, as I understand the situation. The
'volume' of the heater is relatively unimportant compared to the surface
area exposed to water flow, the time of exposure and the metal
In reply to Roarty, Francis X's message of Mon, 18 Apr 2011 15:51:49 -0400:
Hi,
[snip]
Maybe hydrinos improve heat transfer? They should carry more energy in a
smaller volume effectively increasing the internal surface area. Just because
We never see them at STP doesn't mean they can't exist as
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