Re: [Vo]:ICCF18 Kim Slides

2013-08-11 Thread H Veeder
occurs with an atom and the orbiting electron. Dave -Original Message- From: Roarty, Francis X francis.x.roa...@lmco.com To: vortex-l vortex-l@eskimo.com Cc: puthoff puth...@earthtech.org Sent: Mon, Aug 5, 2013 9:32 am Subject: RE: [Vo]:ICCF18 Kim Slides Mark, Just finished

Re: [Vo]:ICCF18 Kim Slides

2013-08-11 Thread H Veeder
hveeder...@gmail.com To: vortex-l vortex-l@eskimo.com Sent: Wed, Aug 7, 2013 12:08 am Subject: Re: [Vo]:ICCF18 Kim Slides It could be that charge as a static entity is fundamentally an illusion. Perhaps it is a useful illusion, but it is still an illusion. Notice that the coulomb, the unit

Re: [Vo]:ICCF18 Kim Slides

2013-08-07 Thread David Roberson
: Wed, Aug 7, 2013 12:08 am Subject: Re: [Vo]:ICCF18 Kim Slides It could be that charge as a static entity is fundamentally an illusion. Perhaps it is a useful illusion, but it is still an illusion. Notice that the coulomb, the unit of charge, is defined in terms of Amperes X Seconds. http

RE: [Vo]:ICCF18 Kim Slides

2013-08-06 Thread MarkI-ZeroPoint
feature of quantum ground states. [/snip] Fran _ From: MarkI-ZeroPoint [mailto:zeropo...@charter.net] Sent: Sunday, August 04, 2013 12:35 PM To: vortex-l@eskimo.com Subject: EXTERNAL: RE: [Vo]:ICCF18 Kim Slides Dammit Fran, ya made me leave the Dimebox

Re: [Vo]:ICCF18 Kim Slides

2013-08-06 Thread Terry Blanton
On Tue, Aug 6, 2013 at 3:21 AM, MarkI-ZeroPoint zeropo...@charter.net wrote: Under normal/usual circumstances, when the atom enters the narrow Casimir channel it gives up some of its E to the ZPF, and when it exits, it ‘springs back’ to normal ground-state -- NO overall gain or loss; COE still

RE: [Vo]:ICCF18 Kim Slides

2013-08-06 Thread MarkI-ZeroPoint
:51 AM To: vortex-l@eskimo.com Subject: Re: [Vo]:ICCF18 Kim Slides On Tue, Aug 6, 2013 at 3:21 AM, MarkI-ZeroPoint zeropo...@charter.net wrote: Under normal/usual circumstances, when the atom enters the narrow Casimir channel it gives up some of its E to the ZPF, and when it exits, it 'springs

Re: [Vo]:ICCF18 Kim Slides

2013-08-06 Thread H Veeder
and the orbiting electron. Dave -Original Message- From: Roarty, Francis X francis.x.roa...@lmco.com To: vortex-l vortex-l@eskimo.com Cc: puthoff puth...@earthtech.org Sent: Mon, Aug 5, 2013 9:32 am Subject: RE: [Vo]:ICCF18 Kim Slides Mark, Just finished Puthoff’s 2012 paper

RE: [Vo]:ICCF18 Kim Slides

2013-08-05 Thread Roarty, Francis X
of quantum ground states. [/snip] . Fran _ From: MarkI-ZeroPoint [mailto:zeropo...@charter.net] Sent: Sunday, August 04, 2013 12:35 PM To: vortex-l@eskimo.com Subject: EXTERNAL: RE: [Vo]:ICCF18 Kim Slides Dammit Fran, ya made me leave the Dimebox

Re: [Vo]:ICCF18 Kim Slides

2013-08-05 Thread ChemE Stewart
_ *From:* MarkI-ZeroPoint [mailto:zeropo...@charter.netzeropo...@charter.net] *Sent:* Sunday, August 04, 2013 12:35 PM *To:* vortex-l@eskimo.com *Subject:* EXTERNAL: RE: [Vo]:ICCF18 Kim Slides Dammit Fran, ya made me leave the Dimebox Saloon to go look up the refs… Good news is that my

Re: [Vo]:ICCF18 Kim Slides

2013-08-05 Thread David Roberson
To: vortex-l vortex-l@eskimo.com Cc: puthoff puth...@earthtech.org Sent: Mon, Aug 5, 2013 9:32 am Subject: RE: [Vo]:ICCF18 Kim Slides Mark, Just finished Puthoff’s 2012 paper and although I like his conclusion below I still feel he is avoiding giving credit to the creation and annihilation of pairs

RE: [Vo]:ICCF18 Kim Slides

2013-08-04 Thread MarkI-ZeroPoint
, August 03, 2013 7:13 PM To: vortex-l@eskimo.com Subject: RE: [Vo]:ICCF18 Kim Slides Mark, I think Puthoff fell short in suggesting ZPE keeps the electron and nucleus spatially separated.. Jan Naudts 2005 paper on relativistic hydrogen suggests f/h is relativistic based on Casimir suppression

RE: [Vo]:ICCF18 Kim Slides

2013-08-03 Thread Jones Beene
_ From: Frank roarty ...just staying with Ni and f/h would this hypothesis be consistent with the anomalous spectrum emitted? Would this f/h acting as a heavy electron give off photons

RE: [Vo]:ICCF18 Kim Slides

2013-08-03 Thread MarkI-ZeroPoint
the 8-ball on this? Has this been proposed yet? -Mark Iverson _ From: Jones Beene [mailto:jone...@pacbell.net] Sent: Saturday, August 03, 2013 7:23 AM To: vortex-l@eskimo.com Subject: RE: [Vo]:ICCF18 Kim Slides

Re: [Vo]:ICCF18 Kim Slides

2013-08-03 Thread Terry Blanton
On Sat, Aug 3, 2013 at 1:03 PM, MarkI-ZeroPoint zeropo...@charter.netwrote: I think it was Puthoff who suggested that a continual interaction (xchng of E?) between the ZPF and electrons is what maintains them at some distance from the nucleus. Well, when atoms find themselves in a Casimir

RE: [Vo]:ICCF18 Kim Slides

2013-08-03 Thread Frank roarty
_ From: MarkI-ZeroPoint [mailto:zeropo...@charter.net] Sent: Saturday, August 03, 2013 1:04 PM To: vortex-l@eskimo.com Subject: RE: [Vo]:ICCF18 Kim Slides Jones/Fran, Wish I had time to read more; my vortex folder has 560 unread msgs! This may have been suggested before

Re: [Vo]:ICCF18 Kim Slides

2013-08-02 Thread H Veeder
Is Kim saying a cold fusion bomb is possible? Look at slide 31 https://mospace.umsystem.edu/xmlui/bitstream/handle/10355/36783/TheoreticalAnalysisReactionMechanisms.pdf?sequence=1 - warning ! Instabilities may occur, if the deuterium density (pressure) is increased too

Re: [Vo]:ICCF18 Kim Slides

2013-08-02 Thread Axil Axil
This is not a Defkalion factoid because they never use D. On Fri, Aug 2, 2013 at 3:29 AM, H Veeder hveeder...@gmail.com wrote: Is Kim saying a cold fusion bomb is possible? Look at slide 31

Re: [Vo]:ICCF18 Kim Slides

2013-08-02 Thread blaze spinnaker
WOW Professor Kim shouldn't have put the Purdue University logo on the slides like that. It almost looks like Purdue University is partnering with Defkalion. On Thu, Aug 1, 2013 at 12:43 PM, Alan Fletcher a...@well.com wrote: Tip :

Re: [Vo]:ICCF18 Kim Slides

2013-08-02 Thread blaze spinnaker
Interesting, a search of defkalion site:purdue.edu on google, comes up with two hits. One of them is a message from Kim to his colleagues, and the other hit defkalion seems to have been scrubbed from the website. On Fri, Aug 2, 2013 at 1:19 AM, blaze spinnaker blazespinna...@gmail.comwrote:

Re: [Vo]:ICCF18 Kim Slides

2013-08-02 Thread H Veeder
Perhaps, what we need to worry about is about the miniaturization of conventional explosives rather than the proliferation of thermonuclear weapons. Suppose a cold fusion bomb with the explosive power of the daisy cutter could be carried in a backpack? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_upy14pesi4

RE: [Vo]:ICCF18 Kim Slides

2013-08-02 Thread Jones Beene
From: H Veeder Is Kim saying a cold fusion bomb is possible? Look at slide 31 https://mospace.umsystem.edu/xmlui/bitstream/handle/10355/36783/TheoreticalA nalysisReactionMechanisms.pdf?sequence=1 This

RE: [Vo]:ICCF18 Kim Slides

2013-08-02 Thread Frank roarty
..could the fractional value change states while still acting as a heavy electron? Fran _ From: Jones Beene [mailto:jone...@pacbell.net] Sent: Friday, August 02, 2013 7:32 PM To: vortex-l@eskimo.com Subject: RE: [Vo]:ICCF18 Kim Slides

[Vo]:ICCF18 Kim Slides

2013-08-01 Thread Alan Fletcher
Tip : http://www.lenr-forum.com/showthread.php?2243-ICCF18-paper-by-Yeong-Kim-and-Defkalion-slides-are-publishedp=5626 Page : https://mospace.umsystem.edu/xmlui/handle/10355/36783 Slides :

Re: [Vo]:ICCF18 Kim Slides

2013-08-01 Thread Teslaalset
There are many more newly available. Document repository of ICCF-18 : https://mospace.umsystem.edu/xmlui/handle/10355/35425/browse On Thu, Aug 1, 2013 at 9:43 PM, Alan Fletcher a...@well.com wrote: Tip :

Re: [Vo]:ICCF18 Kim Slides

2013-08-01 Thread Chuck Sites
Thanks Alan for the URL to Yeong's slides. That really helped clarify in my mind what is happening in this device. A number of people have mentioned how impressive the Defkalion live demonstration was, and yet how amateurish it appears. It really wasn't an amateur presentation, far from it.