Re: Fw: [Vo]:Rossi and Defkalion Split Up RUMORMONGERING - You got evidence, post it!

2011-08-07 Thread Rich Murray
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Re: Fw: [Vo]:Rossi and Defkalion Split Up RUMORMONGERING - You got evidence, post it!

2011-08-07 Thread Terry Blanton
On Sun, Aug 7, 2011 at 2:14 PM, Mark Iverson wrote: > Assuming that Defkalion has 'played' Rossi, what I'd like to know is if > Stremmenos is complicit in > this deception... I guess his years as a politician have corrupted his > integrity as a scientist. > Isn't anyone immune from the corrupti

RE: Fw: [Vo]:Rossi and Defkalion Split Up RUMORMONGERING - You got evidence, post it!

2011-08-07 Thread Mark Iverson
Abd said... "Rossi could have and should have delegated response there to someone he trusted. If he trusts anyone!" Indeed, if I were Rossi, I'd have a hard time trusting anyone... Assuming that Defkalion has 'played' Rossi, what I'd like to know is if Stremmenos is complicit in this deceptio

Re: Fw: [Vo]:Rossi and Defkalion Split Up RUMORMONGERING - You got evidence, post it!

2011-08-07 Thread Abd ul-Rahman Lomax
At 12:34 PM 8/7/2011, Jed Rothwell wrote: Yup. Either Rossi is lying, or Defkalion is. It could not be more clear cut. Nope. That's just more assumption masquerading as proof. It's entirely possible that Defkalion is testing Hyperions, and Rossi did not provide them. It's possible that they

Re: Fw: [Vo]:Rossi and Defkalion Split Up RUMORMONGERING - You got evidence, post it!

2011-08-07 Thread Abd ul-Rahman Lomax
At 12:31 PM 8/7/2011, Terry Blanton wrote: From Defkalion web page: Company Structure Praxen Defkalion Green Technologies (Global) Ltd., is based in Cyprus; it owns the contract signed with the inventor regarding the industrial secret with right of first refusal to sell globally except the US.

RE: [Vo]:Rossi and Defkalion Split Up RUMORMONGERING - You got evidence, post it!

2011-08-07 Thread OrionWorks - Steven Vincent Johnson
>From Abd: > With some satisfaction, I suppose, I note that all those who defended > Rossi's claim by supposing that Defkalion had tested the technology > must now assume that either Rossi is lying or they were incorrect. I > don't think Rossi is lying, though he could be. > > Fascinating. Indee

Re: [Vo]:Rossi and Defkalion Split Up RUMORMONGERING - You got evidence, post it!

2011-08-07 Thread Abd ul-Rahman Lomax
Perhaps I should read all my mail before responding to the older messages. Still, I don't think I embarassed myself by what I wrote. At 09:12 AM 8/7/2011, Akira Shirakawa wrote: ... Here's the evidence, straight from Rossi: http://www.journal-of-nuclear-physics.com/?p=501&cpage=9#comment-59867

Re: [Vo]:Rossi and Defkalion Split Up RUMORMONGERING - You got evidence, post it!

2011-08-07 Thread Stephen A. Lawrence
LOL (well, OK, just chuckling, really) And so Rossi's exit strategy from the Defkalion situation has materialized. It's probably not quite what anyone expected, but it's certainly gotten him off the hook for delivering anything to them. Lots of tortuous explanations of the split are possible.

Re: Fw: [Vo]:Rossi and Defkalion Split Up RUMORMONGERING - You got evidence, post it!

2011-08-07 Thread Jed Rothwell
Terry Blanton wrote: >From Defkalion web page: > > Company Structure > Praxen Defkalion Green Technologies (Global) Ltd., is based in Cyprus; > it owns the contract signed with the inventor regarding the industrial > secret with right of first refusal to sell globally except the US. > > http://ww

RE: [Vo]:Rossi and Defkalion Split Up RUMORMONGERING - You got evidence, post it!

2011-08-07 Thread OrionWorks - Steven Vincent Johnson
>From Terry > >> Dear Sterling: > >> I prefer that the reasons will be cleared by a judge by a verdict. > >> Facts, not chatters, as usual with me. Our attorneys have filed a > >> suit. I confirm that our 1 MW plant will be put in operation in > >> the USA, after an agreement we made last week wit

Re: Fw: [Vo]:Rossi and Defkalion Split Up RUMORMONGERING - You got evidence, post it!

2011-08-07 Thread Terry Blanton
>From Defkalion web page: Company Structure Praxen Defkalion Green Technologies (Global) Ltd., is based in Cyprus; it owns the contract signed with the inventor regarding the industrial secret with right of first refusal to sell globally except the US. http://www.defkalion-energy.com/profile I

Re: Fw: [Vo]:Rossi and Defkalion Split Up RUMORMONGERING - You got evidence, post it!

2011-08-07 Thread Abd ul-Rahman Lomax
At 02:06 AM 8/7/2011, noone noone wrote: - Forwarded Message - From: noone noone To: Daniel Rocha Sent: Sunday, August 7, 2011 2:05 AM Subject: Re: [Vo]:Rossi and Defkalion Split Up RUMORMONGERING - You got evidence, post it! It is obvious Defkalion knows about the catalyst. They

Re: [Vo]:Rossi and Defkalion Split Up RUMORMONGERING - You got evidence, post it!

2011-08-07 Thread Terry Blanton
>> Andrea Rossi >> August 7th, 2011 at 9:00 AM >> >> Dear Sterling: >> I prefer that the reasons will be cleared by a judge by a verdict. Facts, >> not chatters, as usual with me. Our attorneys have filed a suit. >> I confirm that our 1 MW plant will be put in operation in the USA, after >> an agre

Re: [Vo]:Rossi and Defkalion Split Up RUMORMONGERING - You got evidence, post it!

2011-08-07 Thread Akira Shirakawa
On 2011-08-07 15:58, Andrea Selva wrote: The big October demo in Greece is going to be cancelled ? He's going to demonstrate his megawatt plant in the USA: http://www.journal-of-nuclear-physics.com/?p=501&cpage=9#comment-59881 Andrea Rossi August 7th, 2011 at 9:00 AM Dear Sterling: I prefer

Re: [Vo]:Rossi and Defkalion Split Up RUMORMONGERING - You got evidence, post it!

2011-08-07 Thread Peter Gluck
Will take place in the US with the collaboration of the "greatest scientists of the world" (Who are they?) This bizarre news is already on Daniele's 22 Passi blog with no "inside" information yet. Defkalion site inactive. Waiting for Prof Sremmenos's explanations too. Peter On Sun, Aug 7, 2011 a

Re: [Vo]:Rossi and Defkalion Split Up RUMORMONGERING - You got evidence, post it!

2011-08-07 Thread Andrea Selva
The big October demo in Greece is going to be cancelled ? 2011/8/7 Peter Gluck > It seems Rossi's ways are inherently tortuous > Have asked my Greek friends and now I will see > what says Daniele if he knows more. > I have never ruined. a 200M euro business so I envy Rossi > > But it is quite i

Re: [Vo]:Rossi and Defkalion Split Up RUMORMONGERING - You got evidence, post it!

2011-08-07 Thread Peter Gluck
It seems Rossi's ways are inherently tortuous Have asked my Greek friends and now I will see what says Daniele if he knows more. I have never ruined. a 200M euro business so I envy Rossi But it is quite incredible.. . Peter On Sun, Aug 7, 2011 at 4:34 PM, Akira Shirakawa wrote: > On 2011-08-07

Re: [Vo]:Rossi and Defkalion Split Up RUMORMONGERING - You got evidence, post it!

2011-08-07 Thread Akira Shirakawa
On 2011-08-07 15:30, Jouni Valkonen wrote: This is something. Hopefully it just tells that neither Defkalion nor Rossi has real resources to make this technology commercially viable soon enough and Rossi will just make technology publicly available and protected only by Italian and soon internati

Re: [Vo]:Rossi and Defkalion Split Up RUMORMONGERING - You got evidence, post it!

2011-08-07 Thread Jouni Valkonen
This is something. Hopefully it just tells that neither Defkalion nor Rossi has real resources to make this technology commercially viable soon enough and Rossi will just make technology publicly available and protected only by Italian and soon international patent. If this is not going to happen,

RE: [Vo]:Rossi and Defkalion Split Up RUMORMONGERING - You got evidence, post it!

2011-08-07 Thread Jones Beene
Can we not get this Steorn holdover, whoever he really is, removed from this list ? He refuses to post under a real name. He bad-mouths everyone who does not worship Rossi and has no apparent understanding of the science involved. Has he ever contributed anything to our understanding of the situat

Re: [Vo]:Rossi and Defkalion Split Up RUMORMONGERING - You got evidence, post it!

2011-08-07 Thread Akira Shirakawa
On 2011-08-07 07:38, noone noone wrote: There are rumors that Rossi and Defkalion have split up. However, no evidence has been presented. If you have evidence, present it. Here's the evidence, straight from Rossi: http://www.journal-of-nuclear-physics.com/?p=501&cpage=9#comment-59867 Andrea

Re: [Vo]:Rossi and Defkalion Split Up RUMORMONGERING - You got evidence, post it!

2011-08-07 Thread noone noone
e put a big disclaimer on it when you post it, so people will know that it has not been confirmed as being legit. From: noone noone To: "vortex-l@eskimo.com" Sent: Sunday, August 7, 2011 1:38 AM Subject: [Vo]:Rossi and Defkalion Split Up RUMORMONG

Fw: [Vo]:Rossi and Defkalion Split Up RUMORMONGERING - You got evidence, post it!

2011-08-06 Thread noone noone
- Forwarded Message - From: noone noone To: Daniel Rocha Sent: Sunday, August 7, 2011 2:05 AM Subject: Re: [Vo]:Rossi and Defkalion Split Up RUMORMONGERING - You got evidence, post it! It is obvious Defkalion knows about the catalyst. They would not have invested hundreds of

[Vo]:Rossi and Defkalion Split Up RUMORMONGERING - You got evidence, post it!

2011-08-06 Thread noone noone
There are rumors that Rossi and Defkalion have split up. However, no evidence has been presented. If you have evidence, present it. Otherwise, this is just rumor mongering.