Re: [Vo]:The EMC effect and proton disintegration

2019-02-25 Thread Axil Axil
https://journals.aps.org/prd/abstract/10.1103/PhysRevD.98.124043 Bosons falling into a black hole: A superfluid analogue Ultra dense hydrogen is a superfluid as Holmlid describes. A superfluid as a Bose condensate acts like a black hole. As such, a superfluid most likely will generate hawking

Re: [Vo]:The EMC effect and proton disintegration

2019-02-25 Thread Jones Beene
Robin Here is a thesis of interest on the "dynamical Casimir effect" where the force is converted into energy. There are others in the following cite - this is a relatively hot topic at Universities.

Re: [Vo]:The EMC effect and proton disintegration

2019-02-24 Thread mixent
In reply to Jones Beene's message of Sun, 24 Feb 2019 22:11:25 + (UTC): Hi Jones, [snip] >Hi Robin > >> Why would the Casimir force have a maximum, and why would it be 2 nm? > >This comes from actual measurement in the laboratory, usually stated as 2-10 >nm with the peak at the lesser

Re: [Vo]:The EMC effect and proton disintegration

2019-02-24 Thread Jones Beene
Hi Robin > Why would the Casimir force have a maximum, and why would it be 2 nm? This comes from actual measurement in the laboratory, usually stated as 2-10 nm with the peak at the lesser value. Why? Above my pay grade. It has to do with "vacuum expectation value" and other intricacies of

Re: [Vo]:The EMC effect and proton disintegration

2019-02-24 Thread mixent
In reply to Jones Beene's message of Sun, 24 Feb 2019 21:07:30 + (UTC): Hi, [snip] >When you think about the modality of coupling to 532 nm laser pulse - it would >seem again that the ultra dense state is overkill - and not needed. It could >be counter productive. Actually Mills theory of

Re: [Vo]:The EMC effect and proton disintegration

2019-02-24 Thread mixent
In reply to Jones Beene's message of Sun, 24 Feb 2019 21:07:30 + (UTC): Hi, [snip] > Harry, >If one seeks to engineer maximum packing of nucleons which have rudimentary >information transfer, then it would seem that there could be four distinct >size categories of interest which can have

Re: [Vo]:The EMC effect and proton disintegration

2019-02-24 Thread Jones Beene
Harry, If one seeks to engineer maximum packing of nucleons which have rudimentary information transfer, then it would seem that there could be four distinct size categories of interest which can have net integral spin and follow the statistical description given by Bose and Einstein

Re: [Vo]:The EMC effect and proton disintegration

2019-02-24 Thread H LV
The first level nest consists of a free nucleon. They consider the second level nest which consists nucleons grouped in a nucleus. I am considering the third level nest which consists nucleons grouped into a nucleus which in turn form a group of nuclei. Nuclei in condensed matter are so far apart

Re: [Vo]:The EMC effect and proton disintegration

2019-02-24 Thread Jones Beene
On the subject of superfluidity in hydrogen... Recent work at Göttingen in Germany has revealed convincing evidence for superfluidity in liquid hydrogen. Hydrogen is the only liquid other than helium to exhibit this quantum behavior. This does not happen with the bulk liquid but does happen

Re: [Vo]:The EMC effect and proton disintegration

2019-02-24 Thread Jones Beene
Which is a segue back to the subject heading - the EMC effect  H LV wrote: I was thinking that maybe the structure of a single nucleus undergoes a subtle change of some sort when it is in an long term relationship (in condensed matter) with other nuclei. Harry Jones Beene wrote: Here

Re: [Vo]:The EMC effect and proton disintegration

2019-02-24 Thread H LV
I was thinking that maybe the structure of a single nucleus undergoes a subtle change of some sort when it is in an long term relationship (in condensed matter) with other nuclei. Harry On Sun, Feb 24, 2019, 10:41 AM Jones Beene Here is a video with the audacity to suggest that dark matter is

Re: [Vo]:The EMC effect and proton disintegration

2019-02-24 Thread Jones Beene
Here is a video with the audacity to suggest that dark matter is also a superfluid https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BhqAjjik6Lg This suggestion makes it tempting to go one step further, given the ubiquity of hydrogen, to suggest that UDH is one type of dark matter which can form at relatively

Re: [Vo]:The EMC effect and proton disintegration

2019-02-24 Thread Jones Beene
According to LH dense hydrogen is a superfluid... H LV wrote: Just curious, in what state are the target nuclei? Are these free floating nuclei like in a gas or are they part of a solid? Harry

Re: [Vo]:The EMC effect and proton disintegration

2019-02-24 Thread H LV
Just curious, in what state are the target nuclei? Are these free floating nuclei like in a gas or are they part of a solid? Harry

RE: [Vo]:The EMC effect and proton disintegration

2019-02-23 Thread bobcook39...@hotmail.com
mo.com Subject: RE: [Vo]:The EMC effect and proton disintegration Bob C.: FYI: If you snag the actual research paper (Nature, CLAS Collaboration) that the MIT Summary by Jennifer Chu is based upon, you will see that at least 3 of the 4 authors of the review paper you site below, are co-a

RE: [Vo]:The EMC effect and proton disintegration

2019-02-22 Thread Mark Jurich
), and they reference the review paper (Reference 1). - Mark From: bobcook39...@hotmail.com Sent: Friday, February 22, 2019 8:16 AM To: vortex-l@eskimo.com Subject: RE: [Vo]:The EMC effect and proton disintegration The link to the MIT paper discussion is a qualitative bunch of fluff IMHO. It assumes

RE: [Vo]:The EMC effect and proton disintegration

2019-02-22 Thread bobcook39...@hotmail.com
<mailto:janap...@gmail.com> Sent: Thursday, February 21, 2019 1:35 PM To: vortex-l<mailto:vortex-l@eskimo.com> Subject: Re: [Vo]:The EMC effect and proton disintegration Jones, You may be placing too much emphasis on the laser reaction mechanism with Ultra dense hydrogen here. Holml

RE: [Vo]:The EMC effect and proton disintegration

2019-02-22 Thread bobcook39...@hotmail.com
ary 22, 2019 12:33:28 AM To: vortex-l Subject: Re: [Vo]:The EMC effect and proton disintegration http://news.mit.edu/2019/quark-speed-proton-neutron-pairs-0220 Another article about the The EMC effect, but with more detail from MIT. On Thu, Feb 21, 2019 at 7:50 PM Jones Beene mailto:jone...@pa

Re: [Vo]:The EMC effect and proton disintegration

2019-02-22 Thread Axil Axil
http://news.mit.edu/2019/quark-speed-proton-neutron-pairs-0220 Another article about the The EMC effect, but with more detail from MIT. On Thu, Feb 21, 2019 at 7:50 PM Jones Beene wrote: > Axil, > > Yes, clearly dense hydrogen is necessary, and their IP does not limit the > power going in to

Re: [Vo]:The EMC effect and proton disintegration

2019-02-21 Thread Jones Beene
 Axil, Yes, clearly dense hydrogen is necessary, and their IP does not limit the power going in to lasers. They have made a great effort to avoid reference to Mills version of dense hydrogen, but there is little doubt that patents will be contested if there is a commercial success. The

Re: [Vo]:The EMC effect and proton disintegration

2019-02-21 Thread Axil Axil
Jones, You may be placing too much emphasis on the laser reaction mechanism with Ultra dense hydrogen here. Holmlid has found that the laser pulse can be replaced with a spark and that spark can still get the same reactions to occur as that low powered laser pulse can. The indispensable role that

[Vo]:The EMC effect and proton disintegration

2019-02-21 Thread Jones Beene
Why would it be easier, far easier in terms of applied force, to completely disintegrate a proton into quarks - using a laser - compared to fusing two deuterons in a plasma using extreme heat ? The answer is very likely related to the "EMC effect" which is in the Science News today (for other