I wrote: "Quarks do not come "unglued" even at near TeV energies.
They are always in at least pairs (mesons) or triads (hadrons)."
That was a mental lapse. Hadrons are particles that are made of
quarks. The quarks are always in at least pairs (mesons) or triads
(baryons)." Hadrons include
On Dec 7, 2009, at 7:03 PM, Abd ul-Rahman Lomax wrote:
At 06:53 PM 12/7/2009, Horace Heffner wrote:
Similarly, the neutron reaction with 12C creates 13C*:
n + 12C --> 13C*
which then fissions:
13C* --> 3 4He
if the 13C* has enough energy.
Isn't that 13C* -> 3 4He + n?
Yes, that's
At 06:53 PM 12/7/2009, Horace Heffner wrote:
Similarly, the neutron reaction with 12C creates 13C*:
n + 12C --> 13C*
which then fissions:
13C* --> 3 4He
if the 13C* has enough energy.
Isn't that 13C* -> 3 4He + n?
On Mon, Dec 7, 2009 at 6:53 PM, Horace Heffner
wrote:> Similarly, the neutron reaction with
12C creates 13C*:
>
> n + 12C --> 13C*
>
> which then fissions:
>
> 13C* --> 3 4He
>
> if the 13C* has enough energy.
Ah! My mistake was assuming 13C resulted from the decay of 14C but
obviously the p
At 05:32 PM 12/7/2009, you wrote:
-Original Message-
From: Horace Heffner
> Mr. Heffner has kindly done the calculations, and I wouldn't
> consider myself qualified to do them right, at least not the first
> time!
I *never* get anything right the first time. 8^)
Whoa. What about ela
On Dec 7, 2009, at 2:16 PM, Terry Blanton wrote:
Maybe someone can explain this comment in the paper:
"In the carbon breakup reaction, a
metastable 13C shatters into three α particles and the
residuals of the reaction can be viewed in the CR-39
detector as a three-prong star where each prong r
On Dec 7, 2009, at 1:32 PM, Jones Beene wrote:
-Original Message-
From: Horace Heffner
Mr. Heffner has kindly done the calculations, and I wouldn't
consider myself qualified to do them right, at least not the first
time!
I *never* get anything right the first time. 8^)
Whoa. W
Maybe someone can explain this comment in the paper:
"In the carbon breakup reaction, a
metastable 13C shatters into three α particles and the
residuals of the reaction can be viewed in the CR-39
detector as a three-prong star where each prong represents
each charged particle that occurs in the de
On Dec 7, 2009, at 1:41 PM, mix...@bigpond.com wrote:
In reply to Jones Beene's message of Mon, 7 Dec 2009 14:32:56 -0800:
Hi,
[snip]
your underlying assumptions - then one of them could be this. Al-
Najjar et
al. (1986) reported that the threshold energy of the neutron
required to
fission
In reply to Jones Beene's message of Mon, 7 Dec 2009 14:32:56 -0800:
Hi,
[snip]
>your underlying assumptions - then one of them could be this. Al-Najjar et
>al. (1986) reported that the threshold energy of the neutron required to
>fission a carbon atom (three alpha) is 9.6 MeV. The authors apparen
-Original Message-
From: Horace Heffner
> Mr. Heffner has kindly done the calculations, and I wouldn't
> consider myself qualified to do them right, at least not the first
> time!
I *never* get anything right the first time. 8^)
Whoa. What about elastic collision cross sections
In reply to Jones Beene's message of Mon, 7 Dec 2009 13:40:40 -0800:
Hi,
[snip]
>Robin - I am surprised that you did not mention, as a possibility, some
>version of the hydrino - for instance the "deuterino" at very high
>redundancy. If in the form of a di-deuterino would have similar properties -
At 12:16 AM 12/7/2009, Jones Beene wrote:
Abd,
I do not have the time to devote to this important topic tonight, and will
address the points in separate postings later, but first and because ...
apparently ... either you do not understand the situation as well as I had
imagined earlier, since yo
At 11:45 AM 12/7/2009, Terry Blanton wrote:
They also got triple tracks from 5.5 MeV alphas from Am; but, of
course, that is 4 times the mass of the single neutron:
http://www.springerlink.com/content/022501181p3h764l/
The critical triple tracks are those which are generated where the
alphas
-Original Message-
From: mix...@bigpond.com
>But what about the geometry of the cones in figure 2 of my reference:
>http://www.springerlink.com/content/022501181p3h764l/
>What else could have that signature inside the polycarbonate?
This is a good point. The absence of any track leadin
On Dec 7, 2009, at 11:38 AM, Abd ul-Rahman Lomax wrote:
I believe that Mr. Heffner has responded on the issue.
Please feel free to refer to me as Horace.
I'm not an authority, I just have a big mouth and say what I see
and think.
Ditto!
Mr. Heffner has kindly done the calculations, a
In reply to Terry Blanton's message of Mon, 7 Dec 2009 16:01:20 -0500:
Hi,
[snip]
>On Mon, Dec 7, 2009 at 12:29 PM, Jones Beene wrote:
>
>> All in all, I am still of the opinion that the triple tracks are not
>> indicative of a three-alpha reaction (12C fission), and that alternatives
>> should b
On Mon, Dec 7, 2009 at 12:29 PM, Jones Beene wrote:
> All in all, I am still of the opinion that the triple tracks are not
> indicative of a three-alpha reaction (12C fission), and that alternatives
> should be looked at.
But what about the geometry of the cones in figure 2 of my reference:
htt
I believe that Mr. Heffner has responded on the issue. However, to
underscore part of it:
At 10:33 PM 12/6/2009, Jones Beene wrote:
-Original Message-
First question: what is the fission cross-section (3 alpha) of 12C for
energetic D+T neutrons? Caveat - please do not confuse this with
-Original Message-
From: Terry Blanton
> I am interested in only the *triple tracks* for now.
They also got triple tracks from 5.5 MeV alphas from Am; but, of course,
that is 4 times the mass of the single neutron:
... not to mention, the alpha is a charged particle. What would be the
On Mon, Dec 7, 2009 at 12:16 AM, Jones Beene wrote:
> I am interested in only the *triple tracks* for now.
They also got triple tracks from 5.5 MeV alphas from Am; but, of
course, that is 4 times the mass of the single neutron:
http://www.springerlink.com/content/022501181p3h764l/
Terry
In reply to Jones Beene's message of Sun, 6 Dec 2009 21:16:04 -0800:
Hi,
[snip]
>First - let's begin with any fast neutron > ~7 MeV, as the author's mention
>this value range several times. What other source for these than D+T fusion
>do you imagine there to be in this situation? Please list the r
Abd,
I do not have the time to devote to this important topic tonight, and will
address the points in separate postings later, but first and because ...
apparently ... either you do not understand the situation as well as I had
imagined earlier, since you are wavering on many issues now - or else
At 07:46 PM 12/6/2009, Jones Beene wrote:
-Original Message-
From: Horace Heffner
> I think you need to read the SPAWAR articles. SPAWAR detected triple
tracks deep the CR-39. They show the photos.
Yes, my original post cited both the article and the image of triple tracks-
which I am
-Original Message-
From: Abd ul-Rahman Lomax
> triple tracks are strong evidence of energetic neutrons, that's why the
Triple Track paper had such an impact.
And you are certain it is seen by skeptics as positive impact? Let me ask
you a couple of questions Abd, since you are writing wit
At 04:05 PM 12/6/2009, Horace Heffner wrote:
Jones,
Our conversation is becoming garbled. I'll summarize.
I wrote:
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SPAWAR proposed the triple tracks were from the three alpha producing
reaction:
n + C12 + (9 MeV minimum
At 02:00 PM 12/6/2009, Jones Beene wrote:
The 3 alpha reaction 12C(n,n')3alpha is well known. I don't know
what you are talking about.
I am talking about essentially a zero cross-section of this reaction for
thermal neutrons. Duh! This is why graphite is used as a moderator in
fission reactor
-Original Message-
From: Horace Heffner
> I think you need to read the SPAWAR articles. SPAWAR detected triple
tracks deep the CR-39. They show the photos.
Yes, my original post cited both the article and the image of triple tracks-
which I am merely hypothesizing comes from something
2009/12/5 Jones Beene :
>> So, who had the foresight to envision the cross-connection?
>
> Well that remark was not phrased very well, I agree - but if you google
> [Julian Schwinger LENR] this will be the first hit:
>
> www.lenr-canr.org/acrobat/SchwingerJcoldfusiona.pdf
Well, Feynman would have
Jones,
Our conversation is becoming garbled. I'll summarize.
I wrote:
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SPAWAR proposed the triple tracks were from the three alpha producing
reaction:
n + C12 + (9 MeV minimum kinetic energy for subsequent triple
tra
-Original Message-
From: Horace Heffner
>> If you are implying they are quarks, then no. Quarks do not come
> "unglued" even at near TeV energies...
> Sure - but according to the very same authority,
What authority?
Let's see ... How about the mainstream of physics for starters ?
> d
On Dec 5, 2009, at 12:23 PM, Jones Beene wrote:
-Original Message-
From: Horace Heffner
If you are implying they are quarks, then no. Quarks do not come
"unglued" even at near TeV energies...
Sure - but according to the very same authority,
What authority?
deuterium does not fu
-Original Message-
From: Horace Heffner
> If you are implying they are quarks, then no. Quarks do not come
"unglued" even at near TeV energies...
Sure - but according to the very same authority, deuterium does not fuse at
ambient temperatures ... and never, never, never does 12C fis
From the SPAWAR article at:
http://www.springerlink.com/content/022501181p3h764l/
"The presence of three alpha-particle tracks outgoing from a single
point is diagnostic of the 12C(n,n′)3alpha carbon breakup reaction
and suggests that DT reactions that produce ≥9.6 MeV neutrons are
occurri
On Dec 5, 2009, at 9:07 AM, Jones Beene wrote:
The interesting thing here to ponder is based on the image seen in the
article and the implication from it: are the "triple tracks"
related to
quarks?
If you are implying they are quarks, then no. Quarks do not come
"unglued" even at near T
Michel writes:
> QCD comes into play once the reacting nuclear particles are within
femtometers of each other. But first, it must be explained how they
get that close with sufficient probability, and this is purely a QED
problem if I am not mistaken.
Yes, but the precise details - the dynamics o
Jones,
QCD comes into play once the reacting nuclear particles are within
femtometers of each other. But first, it must be explained how they
get that close with sufficient probability, and this is purely a QED
problem if I am not mistaken.
So, who had the foresight to envision the cross-connecti
The key phrase here is "triple tracks" .
http://www.physorg.com/news157046734.html
Because this article came ahead of (or even instigated) some of the recent
popularization of new theories relating LENR to the likelihood of quark
interaction (identity or 'color' change statistics in quarks), many
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