Re: [Vo]:WAY OFF TOPIC Mistaken notions about human populations and longevity

2012-05-22 Thread Jed Rothwell
Ron Wormus wrote: > > Chimpanzees do not have fire and so do not cook their food & must devote > most of their day to chewing & digesting a lot of raw food. Mastering fire > & cooking food has allowed humans to quickly fuel our large brains using a > short digestive system. True! And we are so

Re: [Vo]:WAY OFF TOPIC Mistaken notions about human populations and longevity

2012-05-22 Thread Ron Wormus
--On Monday, May 21, 2012 5:57 PM -0400 Jed Rothwell wrote: No doubt that is the biological root of the obesity problem. That is why fat people exist. I doubt there are any obese chimpanzees in the wild. Chimpanzees do not have fire and so do not cook their food & must devote most of the

Re: [Vo]:WAY OFF TOPIC Mistaken notions about human populations and longevity

2012-05-21 Thread Alan J Fletcher
At 12:02 PM 5/21/2012, Jed Rothwell wrote: Here are age distributions for England and Wales, 1696: Age group, percent 0 - 9 27.6% 10 - 19 20.2% 20 - 29 15.5% 30 - 39 11.7% 40 - 49 8.4% 50 - 59 5.8% 60 and above 10.7% Laslet, p. 103. Those numbers are reliable. They kept good records in the U.K

Re: [Vo]:WAY OFF TOPIC Mistaken notions about human populations and longevity

2012-05-21 Thread Jed Rothwell
OrionWorks - Steven V Johnson wrote: > Obesity, diabetes, heart failure, and a slurry of other physical maladies > is the price we are currently paying for our civilization that has become > too successful. > No doubt that is the biological root of the obesity problem. That is why fat people ex

Re: [Vo]:WAY OFF TOPIC Mistaken notions about human populations and longevity

2012-05-21 Thread Jed Rothwell
I wrote: > . . . they pass on cultural and technical knowledge. (People obviously > more than chimps!) This created an advantage to surviving into old age. > Especially during long span of history in which we had language but no > writing, and the only store of knowledge was in people's brains .

Re: [Vo]:WAY OFF TOPIC Mistaken notions about human populations and longevity

2012-05-21 Thread Jed Rothwell
wrote: > > What I find interesting is what influence evolution may have on lifespan > and why. Is long life a species survival strategy? > Among primates, yes. Species that take care of offspring, rather than laying eggs and abandoning them, must have a long adulthood. They cannot die off quick

Re: [Vo]:WAY OFF TOPIC Mistaken notions about human populations and longevity

2012-05-21 Thread fznidarsic
Here is a free book on life span. I am reading it now. http://www.amazon.com/Aging-Design-Thinking-Change-ebook/dp/B005KCO8SS/ref=sr_1_5?s=books&ie=UTF8&qid=1337631718&sr=1-5 What I find interesting is what influence evolution may have on lifespan and why. Is long life a species survival

Re: [Vo]:WAY OFF TOPIC Mistaken notions about human populations and longevity

2012-05-21 Thread OrionWorks - Steven V Johnson
>From Jed: ... > You cannot draw conclusions about today's diet from today's longevity. To > find out if our diet is healthy and promotes a longer life, you will have to > wait 30 to 50 years. Chances are, it does not. Today's diets have > caused unprecedented high levels of obesity. Obesity usua

[Vo]:WAY OFF TOPIC Mistaken notions about human populations and longevity

2012-05-21 Thread Jed Rothwell
I would like to sound off on a pet peeve of mine. Completely unrelated to cold fusion, but it is technical. The mass media and many books make some profoundly dumb mistakes about statistics as they relate to demography, longevity, actuarial tables and so on. Some examples -- People misunderstand