http://www.nature.com/nature/journal/v454/n7206/abs/nature07121.html
It's dawning on the mainstream gradually.
This is what I meant by fundamental science (and useful, truthful science)
being done on a "shoestring" on a bench top.
on 14/9/08 4:19 pm, Stephen A. Lawrence at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>
>
> Harry Veeder wrote:
>> on 14/9/08 8:25 am, Stephen A. Lawrence at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> Harry Veeder wrote:
>>>
> The most common approach to the problem was to postulate an aether which
> carried
Harry Veeder wrote:
> on 14/9/08 8:25 am, Stephen A. Lawrence at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>
>>
>> Harry Veeder wrote:
>>
The most common approach to the problem was to postulate an aether which
carried the EM waves, and then try to patch things up so that Maxwell's
equations would
on 14/9/08 8:25 am, Stephen A. Lawrence at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>
>
> Harry Veeder wrote:
>
>>> The most common approach to the problem was to postulate an aether which
>>> carried the EM waves, and then try to patch things up so that Maxwell's
>>> equations would still work. This approach
Harry Veeder wrote:
>> The most common approach to the problem was to postulate an aether which
>> carried the EM waves, and then try to patch things up so that Maxwell's
>> equations would still work. This approach had the large advantage that
>> it did *not* require reforming the common view
on 6/9/08 10:16 pm, Stephen A. Lawrence at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
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>
> Harry Veeder wrote:
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>> - Original Message -
>> From: "Stephen A. Lawrence" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>
>>> In a frame of reference
>>> movingat C the traveling wave no longer looks like a solution to
>>> Maxwell'seq
Harry Veeder wrote:
>
> - Original Message -
> From: "Stephen A. Lawrence" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>> In a frame of reference
>> movingat C the traveling wave no longer looks like a solution to
>> Maxwell'sequations, because @E/@t = @B/@t = 0. The way out of this
>> box chosen in
>> spe
- Original Message -
From: "Stephen A. Lawrence" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: Saturday, September 6, 2008 8:12 am
Subject: Re: [Vo]:gravity = pdf
>
>
> Robin van Spaandonk wrote:
> > In reply to Stephen A. Lawrence's message of Fri, 05 Sep 2008
Robin van Spaandonk wrote:
> In reply to Stephen A. Lawrence's message of Sat, 06 Sep 2008 08:12:25 -0400:
> Hi,
>
> Thanks, that helped. However it raises another question. What about circularly
> polarized radiation?
Well ... Looking at it "classically", the same description applies to
circu
In reply to Robin van Spaandonk's message of Sun, 07 Sep 2008 07:45:47 +1000:
Hi,
Don't bother answering this, I get it.
[snip]
>In reply to Stephen A. Lawrence's message of Sat, 06 Sep 2008 08:12:25 -0400:
>Hi,
>
>Thanks, that helped. However it raises another question. What about circularly
>p
In reply to Stephen A. Lawrence's message of Sat, 06 Sep 2008 08:12:25 -0400:
Hi,
Thanks, that helped. However it raises another question. What about circularly
polarized radiation?
[snip]
>> This makes me wonder how an ordinary photon manages to go through umpteen
>> cycles
>> between source a
Robin van Spaandonk wrote:
> In reply to Stephen A. Lawrence's message of Fri, 05 Sep 2008 17:29:00 -0400:
> Hi,
> [snip]
>> They (apparently) oscillate, which, at least according to my limited and
>> rather primitive understanding of relativity theory, means time passes
>> for them, which sugge
In reply to Stephen A. Lawrence's message of Fri, 05 Sep 2008 17:29:00 -0400:
Hi,
[snip]
>They (apparently) oscillate, which, at least according to my limited and
>rather primitive understanding of relativity theory, means time passes
>for them, which suggests pretty strongly that their speed must
On Sep 5, 2008, at 1:10 PM, Robin van Spaandonk wrote:
In reply to Horace Heffner's message of Thu, 4 Sep 2008 23:05:13
-0800:
Hi,
[snip]
First, let me be very clear that I said neutrinos may be comprised of
graviphotons, not gravitons the messenger particles.
[snip]
...and that's exactly
Robin van Spaandonk wrote:
> In reply to Horace Heffner's message of Thu, 4 Sep 2008 23:05:13 -0800:
> Hi,
> [snip]
>> First, let me be very clear that I said neutrinos may be comprised of
>> graviphotons, not gravitons the messenger particles.
> [snip]
> ...and that's exactly what I meant. Is
In reply to Horace Heffner's message of Thu, 4 Sep 2008 23:05:13 -0800:
Hi,
[snip]
>First, let me be very clear that I said neutrinos may be comprised of
>graviphotons, not gravitons the messenger particles.
[snip]
...and that's exactly what I meant. Is it possible that neutrinos and
graviphoton
On Sep 4, 2008, at 10:37 PM, Robin van Spaandonk wrote:
In reply to Horace Heffner's message of Thu, 4 Sep 2008 22:12:01
-0800:
Hi,
[snip]
I posted a message, then went shopping. I just got back, and
discovered this
post from Horace. :)
[snip]
Given that graviphotons carry no charge, and
In reply to Horace Heffner's message of Thu, 4 Sep 2008 22:12:01 -0800:
Hi,
[snip]
I posted a message, then went shopping. I just got back, and discovered this
post from Horace. :)
[snip]
>Given that graviphotons carry no charge, and have a very weak
>coupling to electrostatic charge, i.e. to vi
On Sep 4, 2008, at 4:45 PM, OrionWorks wrote:
From the report:
"How can black holes have gravity when nothing can get out because
escape speed is greater than the speed of light?"
Always wondered about that conundrum.
Regards
Steven Vincent Johnson
www.OrionWorks.com
www.zazzle.com/orionwork
In reply to Stephen A. Lawrence's message of Thu, 04 Sep 2008 22:11:24 -0400:
Hi,
[snip]
>>> http://metaresearch.org/cosmology/speed_of_gravity.asp
[snip]
Short quote:
"Binary pulsars decay as they radiate away angular momentum, presumably in the
form of gravitational radiation."
This lead me to
- Original Message -
From: OrionWorks <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: Thursday, September 4, 2008 8:45 pm
Subject: Re: [Vo]:gravity = pdf
> Jonse sez:
>
> > For those who haven't seen it:
> >
> > "The Speed of Gravity What the Experiments Say&
OrionWorks wrote:
> Jonse sez:
>
>> For those who haven't seen it:
>>
>> "The Speed of Gravity What the Experiments Say"
>>
>> Tom Van Flandern, Meta Research
>>
>> [as published in Physics Letters A 250:1-11 (1998)]
>>
>> http://metaresearch.org/cosmology/speed_of_gravity.asp
>>
>> hint: this i
OrionWorks wrote
"How can black holes have gravity when nothing can get out because
escape speed is greater than the speed of light?"
Simple my dear Watson, the influence of gravity itself IS superluminal
(according to some)
ch for the pics.
Richard
- Original Message -
From: Jones Beene
To: vortex-l@eskimo.com
Sent: Thursday, September 04, 2008 8:05 PM
Subject: Re: [Vo]:gravity = pdf
OrionWorks wrote
"How can black holes have gravity when nothing can get out because
escape speed is g
Jonse sez:
> For those who haven't seen it:
>
> "The Speed of Gravity What the Experiments Say"
>
> Tom Van Flandern, Meta Research
>
> [as published in Physics Letters A 250:1-11 (1998)]
>
> http://metaresearch.org/cosmology/speed_of_gravity.asp
>
> hint: this is not a pdf file but gavity is pdf
For those who haven't seen it:
"The Speed of Gravity What the Experiments Say"
Tom Van Flandern, Meta Research
[as published in Physics Letters A 250:1-11 (1998)]
http://metaresearch.org/cosmology/speed_of_gravity.asp
hint: this is not a pdf file but gavity is pdf (pretty damn fast)
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