Re: Gasoline panic has begun in Atlanta

2005-09-05 Thread Jed Rothwell
RC Macaulay wrote: However, considering the local, state and federal government " organized response to Katrina", perhaps its time for us to look at another financial " vehicle" to carry us forward in the competivive world of energy . . . The government worked well in the past, and with prop

Re: Gasoline panic has begun in Atlanta

2005-09-05 Thread John Coviello
I cannot understand this anti-technology, Luddite point of view. Jed, I totally agree. A generation ago, the business establishment was calling environmentalists "luddites" for suppossedly opposing technological progress (I think they were just advocating an alternative approach). But s

Re: Gasoline panic has begun in Atlanta

2005-09-04 Thread RC Macaulay
Richard wrote.. >Old Texan saying ,Kyle. People asking someone to give me something  " >gimme sumpin" gets the reply " gimme's dead". Jed wrote..What exactly does this mean, in this context? Are you saying that corporations should not design forward-looking products that consumers want, or wi

Re: Gasoline panic has begun in Atlanta

2005-09-04 Thread Jed Rothwell
I wrote: "Or are you saying that governments and corporations should work together to produce new technology?" Meant NOT work together. They always have in the past, but that was bad for us I suppose. - Jed

Re: Gasoline panic has begun in Atlanta

2005-09-04 Thread Jed Rothwell
RC Macaulay wrote: A few federal incentives for this would be nice. Then us little folk could get stuff like this. Gimme's dead. Please explain this remark. --Kyle Old Texan saying ,Kyle. People asking someone to give me something " gimme sumpin" gets the reply " gimme's dead". What

Re: Gasoline panic has begun in Atlanta

2005-09-03 Thread RC Macaulay
- Original Message - From: "Kyle Mcallister" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Saturday, September 03, 2005 6:37 PM Subject: Re: Gasoline panic has begun in Atlanta Blank Original Message - From: RC Macaulay To: vortex-l@eskimo.com Sent: Saturday, 03 Septembe

Re: Gasoline panic has begun in Atlanta

2005-09-03 Thread Kyle Mcallister
Blank Original Message - From: RC Macaulay To: vortex-l@eskimo.com Sent: Saturday, 03 September, 2005 08:32 AM Subject: Re: Gasoline panic has begun in Atlanta Kyle wrote.. >>What we need is a bare-bones alternative-energy vehicle What we need is a bare-bones alternative-energy v

Re: Gasoline panic has begun in Atlanta

2005-09-03 Thread RC Macaulay
Kyle wrote.. >What we need is a bare-bones alternative-energy vehicle What we need is a bare-bones alternative-energy vehicle, with manual>everything and no convenience features that can be made and sold dirt cheap. We have one.. its called a bicycle! >A few federal incentives for this would b

RE: Gasoline panic has begun in Atlanta

2005-09-02 Thread John Steck
Amen. -Original Message- From: Kyle Mcallister [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, September 01, 2005 6:05 PM To: Vortex-L Subject: Re: Gasoline panic has begun in Atlanta What we need is a bare-bones alternative-energy vehicle, with manual everything and no convenience features

Re: Gasoline panic has begun in Atlanta

2005-09-01 Thread Jed Rothwell
Kyle Mcallister writes: "And some of the stuff in cars is just ridiculouspeople are getting stupider because of it. Press a button, it tells you how much oil is in your engine. We have people coming to the shop that don't know how to check the oil in their engine, they just trust the level lig

Re: Gasoline panic has begun in Atlanta

2005-09-01 Thread John Coviello
hwell" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Thursday, September 01, 2005 4:57 PM Subject: Re: Gasoline panic has begun in Atlanta All is quiet in Atlanta today. I see no gas lines. The price settled at $3.15 per gallon, after the governor declared a "gasoline price state of emergency&qu

Re: Gasoline panic has begun in Atlanta

2005-09-01 Thread Kyle Mcallister
Original Message - From: "Jed Rothwell" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Wednesday, 31 August, 2005 09:59 PM Subject: Re: Gasoline panic has begun in Atlanta > Sorry, let me amend that. I have zero sympathy for RICH people who drive new gas guzzler SUVs and Hummers.

Re: Gasoline panic has begun in Atlanta

2005-09-01 Thread OrionWorks
M 03:57:28 CDT > To: vortex-L@eskimo.com > Subject: Re: Gasoline panic has begun in Atlanta > > All is quiet in Atlanta today. I see no gas lines. The price settled at > $3.15 per gallon, after the governor declared a "gasoline price state of > emergency" yesterday evening. > > I do not understand why people were in such a tizzy. > > - Jed > >

Re: Gasoline panic has begun in Atlanta

2005-09-01 Thread Terry Blanton
> From: Jed > I do not understand why people were in such a tizzy. Really! You'd think it had snowed. ;-)

Re: Gasoline panic has begun in Atlanta

2005-09-01 Thread Jed Rothwell
All is quiet in Atlanta today. I see no gas lines. The price settled at $3.15 per gallon, after the governor declared a "gasoline price state of emergency" yesterday evening. I do not understand why people were in such a tizzy. - Jed

Re: Gasoline panic has begun in Atlanta

2005-09-01 Thread John Coviello
From: RC Macaulay To: vortex-l@eskimo.com Sent: Wednesday, August 31, 2005 11:28 PM Subject: Re: Gasoline panic has begun in Atlanta Kyle wrote..  I am a full timeClass A mechanic in the nearly jobless Buffalo New York area, bringing homea little over $12,000/yr

Re: Gasoline panic has begun in Atlanta

2005-08-31 Thread RC Macaulay
Kyle wrote..  I am a full timeClass A mechanic in the nearly jobless Buffalo New York area, bringing homea little over $12,000/yr. That, to say the least, sucks. Especially here .. Kyle , 12k is below the welfare rate. You would be better off moving back to ole Miss and get a job rebuilding g

Re: Gasoline panic has begun in Atlanta

2005-08-31 Thread Jed Rothwell
OrionWorks writes: > I can't speak for Jed, but what personally bothers me are those who DO make a > decent income and > therefore CAN afford to purchase any kind of car on the market. But what do > many of them long for? > What really jerks their chain? The biggest, meanest, the most powerful

Re: Gasoline panic has begun in Atlanta

2005-08-31 Thread Terry Blanton
> From: Jed Rothwell > I would say I am praying for them, but alas I am stone cold atheist, and I do > not pray for anything. But, of course, you hope for the best for them. Pas de difference. You are a wise man, Jed; however, I protest that you do not know enough to prove a negative. A wise

Re: Gasoline panic has begun in Atlanta

2005-08-31 Thread John Coviello
Original Message - From: "OrionWorks" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Wednesday, August 31, 2005 9:59 PM Subject: Re: Gasoline panic has begun in Atlanta From: "Kyle Mcallister" > From: "Jed Rothwell" > I told her "serves you right f

Re: Gasoline panic has begun in Atlanta

2005-08-31 Thread Jed Rothwell
Kyle Mcallister writes: "> I am sorry, but I have zero sympathy for people who > drive gas guzzlers. They should have known this was going to happen sooner > or later. You go too far here. I'm sorry, but I am sure I am not the only one here who is getting a little tired of the holier than thou t

Re: Gasoline panic has begun in Atlanta

2005-08-31 Thread OrionWorks
> From: "Kyle Mcallister" > > From: "Jed Rothwell" > > > > I told her "serves you right for driving that big car!" > > It serves the whole damn nation right. I am sorry, > > but I have zero sympathy for people who drive gas > > guzzlers. They should have known this was going to > > happen soo

Re: Gasoline panic has begun in Atlanta

2005-08-31 Thread John Coviello
- Original Message - From: "Kyle Mcallister" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Wednesday, August 31, 2005 8:37 PM Subject: Re: Gasoline panic has begun in Atlanta Original Message - From: "Jed Rothwell" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Wednesday,

Re: Gasoline panic has begun in Atlanta

2005-08-31 Thread Kyle Mcallister
Original Message - From: "Jed Rothwell" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Wednesday, 31 August, 2005 01:30 PM Subject: Gasoline panic has begun in Atlanta > I told her "serves you right for driving that big car!" It serves the whole > damn nation ri

Re: Gasoline panic has begun in Atlanta

2005-08-31 Thread John Coviello
- Original Message - From: "Jed Rothwell" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Wednesday, August 31, 2005 1:30 PM Subject: Gasoline panic has begun in Atlanta a friend of mine with an SUV just called. She went to three gas stations in Atlanta and they were out of gasoline

Re: Gasoline panic has begun in Atlanta

2005-08-31 Thread Terry Blanton
> From: Jed Rothwell > Woops. Maybe it is not an artificial shortage. See: > > http://www.ajc.com/news/content/business/0805/31bizgasprices.html > > "The two pipelines that bring gasoline and jet fuel to the region are down > ­ powerless to pump as Hurricane Katrina wreaked havoc on electrical

Re: Gasoline panic has begun in Atlanta

2005-08-31 Thread Steven Krivit
The metro Atlanta region generally has about a 10-day supply of gasoline in inventory, Wow. I'm typically not a doom 'n gloomer type, but this is scary. And the northeast grid shutdown in 2003? Methinks we ain't seen nothin' yet. s

Re: Gasoline panic has begun in Atlanta

2005-08-31 Thread Jed Rothwell
Woops. Maybe it is not an artificial shortage. See: http://www.ajc.com/news/content/business/0805/31bizgasprices.html "The two pipelines that bring gasoline and jet fuel to the region are down ­ powerless to pump as Hurricane Katrina wreaked havoc on electrical infrastructure. The metro Atla

Gasoline panic has begun in Atlanta

2005-08-31 Thread Jed Rothwell
a friend of mine with an SUV just called. She went to three gas stations in Atlanta and they were out of gasoline. The fourth one, Citigo, was selling premium gasoline at $3.50 per gallon and they expect the price to rise to $4.00 within a few days. I told her "serves you right for driving tha